“Vice President Kamala Harris is the top choice for Democrats if President Biden chooses not to run again in 2024, according to a new poll.
The vice president received support from 13% of respondents in The Hill/HarrisX poll despite her historically low approval ratings, according to The Hill.
Former first lady Michelle Obama came in second with backing of 10%.
Receiving support below 10% were a handful of former 2020 hopefuls, including Sens. Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and Cory Booker; billionaire former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg; businessman Andrew Yang; and Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg.”
“Another 13% of respondents said they would pick someone not listed on the poll, according to The Hill.
Biden reportedly plans to run for reelection in 2024. He would be 81 on Election Day that year, but would turn 82 soon after. (Biden’s birthday is Nov. 20.)
White House press secretary Jen Psaki reiterated last week that it was Biden’s “intention” to run as the president boarded Air Force One for an early Thanksgiving visit with troops in North Carolina. ” FN
Comment: Jayzus! Well, the Democrats have done this to themselves. They are likely to face a Trump/De Santis ticket. Buttigieg? Hey he will still be pre-occupied with learning to breast feed. Well with enough hormones … pl
there was a time in the 80ties, that soviet union was called a gerontocracy… things changed.
BTW – I am expecting, that biden could resign after 2/3 years, in favor of K.Harris, not so sure, that he can let go “powers”, even if, is K.Harris enough presidantial material?
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@ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerontocracy :
…U.S. President Ronald Reagan, who was seven months older than Chernenko and just over three years older than his predecessor Andropov, is reported to have remarked “How am I supposed to get anyplace with the Russians if they keep dying on me?”
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I’ve been accused of lack of patriotism, or simply being deluded, for past suggestions I’ve made that the United States may end up fragmenting and its central government collapsing. Could the ongoing freak show be the precursor to that? It isn’t like this hasn’t happened before to a number of past nation states.
Especially if they crash the dollar and states have to start issuing their own currencies.
How about Rand Paul and Tulsi Gabbard running a third party ticket?
It might seem far fetched now, but likely far more logical, as the situation continues to deteriorate, so getting the idea going would be getting a jump on the situation.
The Dems have a real problem with Ron Desantis. He’s serious, focused, businesslike, principled and effective. He’s constantly doing press conferences and connects well with ordinary people. I think Trump should act as the party elder while Desantis and South Dakota’s Kristi Noem haul the heavy lumber.
I don’t think there’s enough fake ballots in the entire country to stave off the landslide that’s coming. The Brandon Administration is the worst in this country’s 245-year history. And that’s saying something.
Mike Whitney made a point on another website, quoting Shakespeare as he went. “She hath borne herself beyond the promise of her age, doing, in the figure of a lamb, the feats of a lion.” I remember now how extraordinary it was early on to see one or two governors set themselves apart from the others at a critical point in time during the pandemic. Ms. Noem has earned consideration for a high post.
Michelle Obama beat out by Kamala, and “someone not listed “. Just like the rest of the grifters named in the polling. At least they have a pool of talented governors to tap: Cuomo, Hochul, Inslee, Murphy, Newsom, Northam, Whitmer. Ah, never mind. Even Trump could beat that crowd.
A Trump nomination would be a disaster for the Republicans. Nothing would galvanize the opposition as his candidacy – and by opposition I mean the Deep State, Corporate media including Big Tech, the establishment of both parties and of course all the vote counters in the various Democrat heavy counties. In any case Trump has demonstrated in his first term that he is of weak character, lacking courage and that he sucks up all the media oxygen on his personality and triviality, depriving attention to the real issues.
DeSantis on the other hand is demonstrating every day why he is head over shoulders better than Trump in running an administration. IMO, he should not play second fiddle to the loser Trump and should contest the primary on his record as governor. The only problem is that DeSantis is also closer to the neocon/ziocon school of thought on foreign policy and the Wall St/Private Equity school on economic policy that has brought us the biggest concentration in market power in US history. He will bring in a more traditional Republican administration similar to Poppy & Dubya Bush, which would naturally be better than the wokeists dominating the Democrats. However, we should not be under any illusion that a DeSantis administration will take on the Deep State/Party of Davos union. They’ll continue to be the powerful 4th branch of government influencing all policy matters in a DeSantis administration.
That’s why a Rand Paul/Tulsi Gabbard ticket is extremely intriguing as IMO there’s no priority greater than dismantling the Deep State/Party of Davos stranglehold & cartelization of power. However, the reality is that the majority of Americans will always vote Tweedle Dee or Tweedle Dum, so that kind of fundamental reform in the concentration of market & political power cannot happen for at least several more generations and the utter destruction of the founding value of the sanctity of personal liberty. The natural order it appears is towards concentration of power and the US experiment based on Lockean and other enlightenment philosophies is for all intents & purposes dead and cannot be revived as the majority of Americans continue to demonstrate everyday that they’re not men of courage and conviction like our ancestors.
BP
Unfortunately, Trump seems to have the numbers. I would favor a De Santis/Noem ticket.
BP,
“However, we should not be under any illusion that a DeSantis administration will take on . They’ll continue to be the powerful 4th branch of government influencing all policy matters in a DeSantis administration.”
Then what’s the point of electing him? How many more years until someone does take on “the Deep State/Party of Davos union” or do you suggest we just surrender now?
Fred,
IMO, the only politicians of note currently who use their media access to call out the Deep State/Party of Davos are Rand Paul and Tulsi Gabbard. Do you think the majority of Americans would vote them in a primary or as a third party candidate?
What we’ve seen over the past several decades is that the majority of contemporary Americans are not mavericks. They are much more conformists and if placed back in the 18th century would support the royalists as they would not want to take any personal risk. IMO, the percentage of contemporary Americans who would be willing to give up their life & liberty to oppose the currently growing fascist authoritarianism would be low single digits.
We’ve changed. We’re not the people our ancestors were. And the constituency for the enlightenment principles of our founding is extremely limited. The response to the man-made pandemic, the Russia Collusion hoax, the Iraq WMD hoax, warrantless surveillance, the 2008 credit crisis, etc should provide us sufficient clues that the personality of our contemporary society does not reflect the courage & character of the pioneers in the 18th century.
I suspect the deep state/P of D crowd will lose serious momentum when the financial bubble pops and it’s hard to imagine it lasting three more years.
The question then, is what will be left standing. What is the core of American culture and strength? That’s why I think someone like Paul and Gabbard might find themselves in the sweet spot, especially if there was some building undercurrent.
In most situations, the likely result would be some sort of implosion into various competing regimes, military councils, oligarchies, local militias, cartels, gangs, etc. So there will be a window, between the current power structure imploding and the various reptilian replacements gaining a solid foothold, where civilization can recover.
Basically who and what is our Putin?
John+Merryman,
The financial bubble can only pop when mass psychology changes and confidence in the system evaporates. This will be manifested in a run on the fiat currency system. We’ll have bull & bear markets in financial assets and even more extreme financial and monetary policies as the debt growth has to keep growing exponentially in the meantime to maintain whatever shred of credibility remains.
Rudy Dornbusch’s well know quote from his study of currency crises is apt.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/perfect-con-job
Read what Charles Hugh Smith wrote 10 years ago. A broken clock…
The reality is no one knows when mass psychology changes. There will be many more stick saves from here to then. In the meantime as Chuck Prince said before the mortgage credit crisis as long as the music’s playing we’ve got to dance.
BP,
Spot on!
Jefferson & Madison would be considered fringe in contemporary American politics.
Heck, NYC just canceled Jefferson by removing his statue.
https://nypost.com/2021/11/22/thomas-jefferson-statue-leaves-city-hall-after-187-years/
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1465490626770735105?s=21
DeSantis growing into a national leader.
I think women president is a kind of a thing many people simply want to happen no matter what the evidence says.
And I’m quite sure that those people will deserve the one they get.
PS: I’m not American. We had female leaders.
https://twitter.com/luigi_warren/status/1465391904346935297?s=21
How many Americans are demanding to know the origins of the virus and the background to the decision making on lockdown, masking and vaxx mandates?
To those of you touting Tulsi Gabbard, I refer you to this:
https://www.younggloballeaders.org/community?utf8=?&q=tulsi+gabbard&x=0&y=0&status=&class_year=§or=®ion=#results
Scroll to the bottom. You will find that this is an initiative of the World Economic Forum. You remember, Klaus Schwab, famous for his soothing fictum, “You will own nothing, and you will be happy”? Yeah, those spiteful mutants, the very same.
H/T to a poster for that little find over at James Kunstler’s blog in a comment following his latest post (vide):
https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-narratives-fail/
Oh, and by the way, New Zealand’s Covidiot Tyrant, Jacinda Ahern, is also on the list of Young Global Leaders, or Young Communists/Fascists, or whatever.
Look before you leap. Just because Tulsi got up in Kamala’s grill during the debates should not be considered dispositive regarding her suitability for higher governmental positions. Image control can serve as an altogether insidious thing, you know.
JJ,
https://twitter.com/tulsigabbard/status/1463926754616111105?s=21
https://twitter.com/tulsigabbard/status/1462358928738566148?s=21
If Tulsi is Klaus Schwab’s bitch, she sure ain’t helping his cause. Not only did she take out “Empty Suit” Kamala from the primary but she took the fight to Hillary when she was accused of being Assad’s bitch by her.
Now of course we don’t how a politician will change when they arrive in the halls of power.