A Re-naming Bee

Sandy

(Lt Col collar insignia, CSA)

"There are 10 major U.S. military bases named in honor of Confederate military leaders, all in former Confederate States:

Other installations are:

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The National Defense Authorization Act, passed over Trump's veto requires the re-naming of these posts.

These posts were all named for Confederate soldiers in the WW1 period in the hope of attracting Southern support for the war.

The two named for Episcopal clergymen seem droll in the light of current denunciation.  Parson Pendleton was the rector of the Episcopal Church in Lexington, Virginia.  In confederate service he was RE Lee's chief of artillery, having been a gunner before he left the US Army long before.  He is buried in the town cemetery at Lexington next to his son Lt. Col. Alexander (Sandy) Pendleton, CSA, KIA at Fisher's Hill in 1864.  

So, these posts are now available for "cleansing" through re-naming.  They can be named for Union soldiers or politicians, noble causes and events, etc.  Offer your suggestions.  pl 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._Army_installations_named_for_Confederate_soldiers

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49 Responses to A Re-naming Bee

  1. Avatar Leith says:

    Medal of Honor awardees from any war other than the WBS.

  2. Avatar Ranger Ray says:

    This entire renaming movement is ridiculous and merely an extension of the Marxist/wok effort to eradicate our culture. Many of the individuals for whom these bases were named served the US honorably both before and after the “War for Southern Independence”. What a waste of money and time to the detriment of our military and country!

  3. Avatar Steve says:

    Named for Union soldiers and other noble causes? Good luck.
    I think we all know that these posts are gonna get the wokest names imaginable in this political environment. 😉

  4. Avatar Leith says:

    Better yet they should also rename those forts and bases named after Union generals. Greeley and Schofield come to mind, but I’m sure there are many more.
    Another option is to use the Navy model and rename ALL Army installations for their location.

  5. Fort Hood should be renamed to Fort Benavidez. I’m not the first to suggest that, but I feel strongly that should happen ASAP. Roy Benavidez should be held up as an example to all and his spirit instilled in all who pass through an installation honoring him. I’m sure others will also change, but I’ll miss the “Benning school for boys.” That had a certain ring to it.

  6. Avatar Ed Lindgren says:

    Frankly, I think that Wokeness will be the principal criterion for selecting new names for these Army posts. That would be in keeping with the mindset of our president-elect, who has proudly assembled the most diverse cabinet in the history of our country.
    Although it is a ship vice a shore installation, the USNS Harvey Milk (T-AO-206) will be the template for the path forward.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USNS_Harvey_Milk_(T-AO-206)

  7. Avatar TV says:

    Rename for “patriots” – Fort Obama, Fort Pelosi, Fort Castro and ad nauseum.
    The destruction of our history, culture and finally our nation will continue unopposed until the uninformed, ignorant populace of sheep starts to starve – which will be way too late.

  8. Avatar Serge says:

    Fort #BelieveHer
    Camp Trayvon Martin

  9. Avatar DJ says:

    My father spent several years of his career at Fort Lee. It could be renamed after the man Lee surrendered to, U.S. Grant. The Panama and Arizona locations by that name are no longer military bases.

  10. Avatar elaine says:

    Fort Biden, Fort Obama, Fort Clinton, Fort BLM, Fort Antifa,
    Fort Weenie-Wok, Fort Pelosi, etc, Fort Apache…I could babble
    on but you get the idea…if math wasn’t currently considered racist they could simply be renamed numerically to avoid future renaming’s,
    like Fort 1, 2, 3, etc

  11. Avatar Deap says:

    Fort Rucker in Alabama could be changed to Fort Angela Davis, in honor of the state’s notorious native daughter, fierce anti-war activist and proud member of the communist party dedicated to the overthrow of the United States.
    Ms Davis is now living off her generous public pension as a retired Univ of California professor. An American success story inspirational for a new generation – suck off the system in your dotage, that you chose to tear down in your youth.

  12. Avatar srw says:

    At least one of the installations should be named for Sherman, the closer to Georgia or South Carolina the better.

  13. Octogenarian Democrat Party politicians. That will work for a year or two.

  14. Avatar Degringolade says:

    Guess I am a Marxist/Commie bastard then. Screw Johnnie Reb. My folks fought on the Union side (First and one of them even won the Medal at the third battle of Petersburg.
    My say is take the civil war card out of the whole shebang. Forts Patton, Eisenhower, Bradley, Pershing, etc would sound fine to me.

  15. Avatar Tidewater says:

    Colonel Lang,
    I would nominate:
    1. Nathanael Greene.
    2. Johan de Kalb (1771-80).
    3. Daniel Morgan.
    4. Henry Lee III–father of Robert E. Lee, known as “Light-Horse Harry” Lee.
    5. Francis Marion.
    6. James Edward Oglethorpe.
    7. Marquis de Lafayette. This name could be combined with von Kalb’s. Perhaps in an area where there are two forts closely combined. Forts Lafayette and von Kalb.
    8. The distinguished name Mackintosh in Georgia. Could even refer to a leader of the Creek nation.
    I think it is long overdue to recognize General Nathanael Greene.

  16. Avatar elaine says:

    Leith, I considered your suggestion of renaming Army installations
    after their locations however most of the location names were likely
    founded by Caucasians who likely were not living up to today’s wok
    standards, hence even location branding may have to be removed.

  17. Avatar Fred says:

    Though it’s not on the list I suggest we add Ft. Belvoir. It was the home of a – hold your breath and clutch your pearls – a slave owner. As for the new name, I propose: Fort Stonewall. Put a rainbow flag on the pavement at the front gate. Make it the officlal home of the 42nd ID. Oh, and put a statue of General Jackson just inside the main gate, too. The one Governor Blackface had removed in the middle of the night would do nicely.

  18. Avatar turcopolier says:

    degringolade
    Patton’s grandfather fought for the South. Do you know anything about the Civil War? Are you from Utah?

  19. Avatar GEORGE CHAMBERLAIN says:

    There is a Hood County in Texas after John Bell Hood.
    Is renaming the counties next?
    The Hood county seat is Granbury. Confederate General Granbury is buried there. Are we going to rename it?
    We’re moving beyond crazy.

  20. Avatar JM Gavin says:

    We’ll soon evolve past a need for a standing military, and won’t need bases scattered around the land. We’ll still need to have defense contractors, to pay off politicians, but that can all be done in D.C. (which also must be re-named, because Columbus bad…very bad, and Washington bad…very bad…the word “district is okay…for now…).
    Just get rid of the troops, then cancel the bases. Easy and done. We can spend the “peace dividend” on, well, whatever makes us all feel better about our systemic issues.
    JMG

  21. Avatar Steve Kaczecka says:

    Fort Pulaski
    Fort Kosciusko
    Fort Thomas Paine
    Fort John Brown
    Fort Sherman
    Fort Smedley
    Fort Lewis
    Fort Clark

  22. Avatar suresh says:

    Names that will be selected
    1. Fort George Floyd
    2. Fort Breonna Taylor
    3. Fort Malcolm X
    4. Fort Angela Davis
    5. Fort Toussaint Louverture
    6. Fort Martin Luther King
    7. Fort Nat Turner
    8. Fort Dred Scott
    ……..
    Any objections will be met by cries of racism, and the new names will be accepted eagerly by the Army Brass. However the effect on the soldiers morale will be devastating

  23. Avatar dsrcwt says:

    In an era when everything is for sale, they could sell naming rights, as they do for stadia. Fort Walmart, Fort Citi, Fort Goldman-Sachs?

  24. Avatar Personanongrata says:

    Persons/nations that destroy their history (good/bad) have no future.

  25. Avatar Horace says:

    @Degringolade
    “Screw Johnnie Reb.”
    My ancestors fought in both the Revolution and for the Union during the War of Southern Secession. The Southerners were and are our brothers and the Southern peoples have existed as distinct cultures longer than have the modern French. They are not just real Americans, but founding Americans.
    Screw the unassimilated Fake Americans, the overtly hostile foreigners with papers like Schumer and Nadler raping our civilization to death for fun and profit. Screw the homegrown globalists like Traitor Romney whose unquenchable love of money would turn our people into neofeudal serfs ruled over by a de facto hereditary aristocracy using a totalitarian corporate-police state that would have made Orwell blanch.
    This is part of a larger war against the mere existence of European peoples. Johnnie Reb is just the first and easiest target. Joining the attack on the Southerners in the hope that the filthy people will spare you is the height of stupidity. They WILL feast upon you as well. We are in an existential civilizational war: it is both a race war against European people and a religious war against Christians. They are not going to stop until either we are destroyed or they are destroyed.

  26. Avatar Leith says:

    Elaine:
    Kit Carson led a volunteer Union regiment at the Battle of Valverde so let’s rename Fort Carson also. I’d support it being naming after Kit’s teenaged common-law wife and mother of two of his children, Waanibe. In the English translation Fort Singing Grass has a nice ring to it.
    Or maybe Fort Dohasan after the Kiowa chief that kicked Carson’s butt at Adobe Wells.

  27. Avatar Steve Kaczecka says:

    Horace
    What war did you avoid?

  28. Avatar Deap says:

    Turn unused military barracks into permanent vagrant shelters. Then listen to ACLU suddenly, howl military accommodations are not good enough for transient “homeless”.
    Yet the military is the best remedial education, skills-building outfit out there. Sounds like a perfect marriage. We could do (are doing) a lot worse than putting transients into military-type boot camps.

  29. Avatar optimax says:

    Fort Cleveland Indians
    Fort Xi

  30. Avatar richard barber says:

    One should be Fort Raffensperger, after a fearless defender of law and order.

  31. Avatar Fourth and Long says:

    Fort Swamp. Fort Porkbarrel. Fort Printing Press. Fort Wikileaks. Fort Ellsberg. Fort Mainstream. Fort Fringe. Fort Lunatic. Fort Disaster. Fort Bailout. Fort Sunset. Fort Congress.

  32. Avatar Morongobill says:

    If that was a serious comment re: Sherman and Georgia- South Carolina, I suggest a visit to a country bar in the area, and enlightening everyone inside with the idea.

  33. Avatar Bubba Schwartz says:

    One of them will be renamed to Camp Snowflake.

  34. Avatar Cale F says:

    Be sure to check out the new massive multi-million dollar* U.S. Army museum at Fort Belvoir which opened late last year. It’s the most ridiculously woke presentation on the history of the U.S. Army in war possible. When you enter into the main exhibit hall there are historical profiles of people who’ve served in the U.S. Army. Almost all of them ‘people of color’, LGBT, Japanese-Americans in WWII, etc. It gets only slightly better when you see the exhibits/presentations inside. And of course, the Confederate soldiers of the Civil War are besmirched.
    My suggestion is skip it and go see the Stonewall Jackson museum in Manassas before they force it to shutdown.
    *defense contractors donated big bucks

  35. Avatar Exiled off mainstreet says:

    I remember about 40 years ago when they wanted to rename the downmarket suburb of East Palo Alto “Nairobi” and it was laughed off. It shows the decline of culture when Communist style renaming has become the norm, apparently.

  36. Fort Lee or Fort A.P. Hill could be renamed to Fort Mahone, a native Virginian and CSA general. It would be a change that everyone can both love and hate. He was a competent and successful general and hero of the Battle of the Crater. He also founded the Readjuster Party in Virginia where blacks made great strides politically and economically in the four year stretch when the Readjusters held the state house in Richmond. He wasn’t woke, just pragmatic. It’s a period of history that the UDC and other Lost Causers try to erase. No monuments to William Mahone were raised in Virginia other than the obelisk commemorating his actions at the crater.

  37. Avatar Richard Ong says:

    Ft. Netanyahu
    Ft. Saud
    Ft. ISIS
    Ft. Ayers
    Ft. Buttigieg
    Ft. Keelhaul
    Ft. Yalta
    Ft. Pollard
    Ft. Liberty
    Ft. Nuremberg
    Ft. Soros
    Ft. Adelson
    Ft. Zuckerberg
    Ft. Dominion
    Ft. Roberts
    Ft. Whoopi

  38. Avatar turcopolier says:

    TTG
    Billy Mahone came from a working class background. VMI always sought to produce grads from that kind of background as well as from “the cousinage.” He went to VMI as a “state cadet” (full scholarship). He was one of the best Rebel leaders who emerged in the last year of the war. John Gordon was another. I dunno, Mahone’s division killed a lot of USCT prisoners at the Crater. Just shot them as they pulled them out of the hole. White officers first of course. Rank has its privilege. Supposedly, Mahone’s Black teamsters, etc. were first in line to kill them, believing the Blacks to be traitors to their Southern heritage.

  39. Avatar Richard C says:

    I find the word “Fort” offensive. It brings up so many negative connotations and my desire a safe space becomes needed. Perhaps we should call one of these installations Rainbow Farting Unicorn. It is both powerful in meaning and in image.

  40. The USCT regiments shouted “Remember Fort Pillow” and No Quarter” as they advanced at the Crater. Big mistake. The Rebs took them at their word and reciprocated with no quarter. I think Mahone’s attitude towards war was akin to Sherman’s and the fighting was desparate. Even so, he eventually stopped the killing that day. I still find it curious that he was not memorialized to the extent that Forrest was memorialized even though he was the architect of the Fort Pillow Massacre. The Lost Causers just cannot forgive Mahone for the Readjusters. He definitely deserves better from both sides. Unfortunately, both sides are unable to forgive what they see as Mahone’s unforgivable acts.

  41. Avatar turcopolier says:

    Richard C
    “Fort” as the title of permanent installations is an inheritance from the American frontier. So what.

  42. Avatar Fred says:

    TTG,
    “Unfortunately, both sides are unable to forgive what they see as Mahone’s unforgivable acts.”
    As we see a century and a half later one side is quite willing to label the other with collective guilt over what their ancestors may have done. There are plenty of new American politicians willing to play the divide and conquer part of the political game too; the results of Appomatox being something they wish to erase in its entirety to keep the game alive.

  43. Avatar turcopolier says:

    TTG
    Mahone was thought of as a traitor to his own people and the “Lost Cause” as you folks like to call it. That, of course, is an insulting denigration of a defeated but not beaten enemy. Forrest didn’t do anything like that and therefore was not thought a traitor to the “Lost Cause.” Mahone fought in the front line at The Crater. The CG of the USCT Division who were massacred there was a politically appointed dancing teacher who was drinking in a bunker a mile away, and got away with that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Ferrero

  44. pl,
    The Lost Cause is not something made up by Unionists. The term first appeared in an 1866 book by a Virginia author, “The Lost Cause: A New Southern History of the War of the Confederates.” The term may not have been appreciated by all Southerners and Southern sympathizers, but it was widely used by them. What made Mahone a traitor to his own people? Was it his embrace of the Republicans? That I could understand. Or was it his brief success in establishing a biracial, progressive and more or less equal society in Virginia with the Readjusters? I’m sure that posed a quandary for those longing for a return to the antebellum ways. The only good outcome for the Union from the Crater was the dismissal of Ledlie and Ferrero. The Union Army in the East had an overabundance of such sad sacks. It was much better in the West.

  45. Avatar turcopolier says:

    TTG
    A Southerner first used the phrase “the Lost Cause? C’mon man! You know that is sophistic BS. The phrase has been used endlessly to mock and belittle the South.

  46. Avatar turcopolier says:

    TTG
    “On December 2, 1864, Ferrero was breveted major general for “bravery and meritorious services.” He served throughout the Appomattox Campaign in early 1865.” wiki on him pl

  47. pl,
    I’ve never heard “Lost Cause” used by a Northerner in a derogatory fashion. I’ve only heard it in a descriptive manner or in a most nostalgic way by a Southerner or Southern sympathizer. It was coined by Edward Pollard, a Virginian unabashedly proud of his Southern heritage and antebellum Southern society. He began his literary career with his paean to the peculiar institution in 1859, “Black Diamonds Gathered in the Darkey Homes of the South.” He wrote his “Lost Cause” books in 1866 and 1869 which started the ball rolling. His role in this is succinctly explained in this article from “Historynet.”
    https://www.historynet.com/edward-pollard-jim-crow-souths-white-liar.htm
    “Pollard explicitly explained the motivation behind what he termed the “Lost Cause.” Although the South had lost the Civil War, he argued that the South could still wage and win the “war of ideas.” Conceding that the South’s loss meant “restoration of the union and the excision of slavery,” Pollard was still defiant, writing that “the war did not decide Negro equality.”
    To say Pollard’s work was influential would be an understatement. Pollard’s “Lost Cause” quickly found its way into Southern writing, most notably in the Southern Historical Society. Described by historian David Blight as “the vehicle for presenting the Confederate version of the war to the world,” Civil War historiography originated with Pollard’s work and the papers published by the Society.”

  48. Avatar turcopolier says:

    TTG
    “I’ve never heard “Lost Cause” used by a Northerner in a derogatory fashion.” C’mon man. You are known for honesty here.

  49. pl,
    I swear I haven’t. I’ve certainly heard people denigrate the ideas behind the “Lost Cause,” but never the term itself as an epithet. I’ve often heard it used in glowing terms by Southern sympathizers. Is it’s use as a term of derision something recent?

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