“CDC just published a paper that admits that VAERS is underreported by at least 6.5X”

This was easy to miss since it wasn’t specifically called out, but a CDC paper published a week ago confirmed (once again) that VAERS is very underreported, even when people are urged to report by HHS

Steve Kirsch
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It’s hard to keep up with all the data coming out of the CDC, but I try my best.

And sometimes, you strike gold every now and then.

Here’s one such paper that was brought to my attention by Dr. David Wiseman. It was written by authors from the CDC and FDA. So you can trust it:

COVID-19 Vaccine Safety in Children Aged 5–11 Years — United States, November 3–December 19, 2021

Now look carefully at the second paragraph in the “Review of V-Safe data” section:

Approximately 5.1% of parents reported that their child was unable to perform normal daily activities on the day after receipt of dose 1, and 7.4% after receipt of dose 2. Approximately 1% of parents reported seeking medical care in the week after vaccination; most medical care was received via a clinic appointment (441; 0.6%). Fourteen (0.02%) children reportedly received care at a hospital; information regarding reason for hospitalization was available for five children and included appendicitis (two), vomiting and dehydration (one), respiratory infection (one), and retropharyngeal cellulitis (one). Parents and guardians of all hospitalized children were contacted; two parents completed VAERS reports, and one revealed hospitalization was reported in error.

In short, 13 child hospitalizations (since one of the 14 was a mistake), yet only 2 VAERS reports were filed.

What is stunning is that even after the parents were expressly asked by HHS to report to VAERS, only 2 complied with the advice.

Of course, these are relatively small numbers, but it is evidence that even in a best case scenario, VAERS is likely to be underreported by at least 6.5. So we know they know. They just don’t want to admit it. Ever. Not even in the same paper! They just say at the end that VAERs is underreported and V-Safe is voluntary. They don’t quantify it for you.

If someone questions them on this, they’ll just say, “Those were small numbers and not statistically significant.” SK


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53 Responses to “CDC just published a paper that admits that VAERS is underreported by at least 6.5X”

  1. Deap says:

    Personal experience with VAERS: Within 10 days of receiving my second pneumococal vaccination about 7 years ago, I developed sudden onset diplopia (double vision) for three months – full recovery. DH is a retired opthalmologist -we knew what we were dealing with.

    I immediately reported this to VAERS and my doctor claimed she would report it too. At that time VAERS was a fairly easy searchable website – put in the vaccine, put in the symptom and up would come appropriate reports.

    Later follow-up from VAERS demanded more specific info – batch number of the vaccine etc. I did not have ready access to that and had gotten better so I dropped any further follow-up on my part, but my original report was in the system.

    Then recently I went to look up the same symptom set on VAERS to see if my report had become part of their data bank, and found a totally incomprehensible search engine and absolutely no clue that my original report for the pnuenococcal vaccine connection ever made it into the public data base, let alone any follow up report by my doctor at that time who would have been able to provide the more specific requested data. Shall I presume she never bothered to fill out the lengthy forms?

    BTW: She reacted with so much CYA overkill to this event that I no longer see her so I never followed up on her promised VAERS follow up..

    So as far as any “official” linkage between my vaccine and the 10 day onset of debilitating side effects, the record remains silent. However during my recent round of cataract surgeries on both eyes when reviewing my vision history, all concerned recognized there was a connection between vaccinations in general and double-vision as a fairly routine occurrence.

    So is any vaccine “safe and effective” when there is no viable post incidence reporting system that monitors this?

    Our public health dollars at work supporting a massive government administrative network all sound and fury, but signifying nothing. And now even intentionally made 100% inaccessible for public education.

  2. walrus says:

    VAERS suffers from exactly the same accuracy problems as radio and TV “phone in live polls” – it is based on self reporting, Steve is right about that.

    However, Steve then tries to extrapolate which fails because he doesn’t use the real denominator: 8.7 million doses had been administered to 5 – 11 year olds.

    Furthermore, neither Steve nor the papers authors try statistical analysis to test if the 14 hospitalizations are within the “background rate” (ie normal) for childrens admissions or represent a departure from the norm.

    • Fred says:

      ” neither Steve nor the papers authors try statistical analysis to test if the 14 hospitalizations are within the “background rate” (ie normal) for childrens admissions or represent a departure from the norm.”

      I look forward to the CDC. or anyone else doing so, with a control group composed of people not vaccinated.

      How many shots are we up to now, four? Are the manufacturers still immune from all liability; if it is safe now why? If it isn’t why and why is it mandatory?

      • Eric Newhill says:

        The CDC has, to date, appeared remarkably uninterested in the possibility of materially significant adverse reactions.

        The drug companies? Same guys who said Oxycontin is not addictive and watched with glee as sales spiked to record highs – and then hired third party firms to cook up false studies to confirm that oxytocin is just fine and safe even as addicts were ODing all over the country. They did the same with Celebrex and several other known dangerous/low benefit/high cost products.

        Pharma is a sleazy business. As patents expire, they seek new profit streams, which, in turn, means cranking out new products and peddling them as wonder cures, even though they usually are not.

        • walrus says:

          Eric,as patents expire not only do they crank out new products that don’t work any better than the old ones, they hire scientists to concoct and publish “independent” reports on the “terrible side effects” their old drug has.

          This is to deter generic drug makers from manufacturing their old drug.

          • Eric Newhill says:

            Yes. That too.

            So why do we trust that the vaccines are safe?

            The politicians won’t admit they made a mistake, nor will the manufacturers (until there is an new option for them to exploit.) In fact, they are both motivated to hide the mistake.

            I said in another comment that insurance will begin behind the scenes to drive a move away from vax mania. Insurance may be joined by Pharma as Pharma develops more profitable therapeutics and new vaccines in pill form, etc. Then what you noted might kick in (they will allow some negative evidence about the jabs to come out to guide policies toward the newer products). Maybe.

        • Deap says:

          So often they add the tag: “life-saving medications” – as one word. When in fact very few are actually life-saving by any meaningful criteria, particularly ones prescribed long term as maintenance drugs.

          Yet they are physiologically-altering compounds. Until as you mention, their patent runs out and then they become either obsolete or OTC.

  3. tedrichard says:

    read the fable about the scorpion and frog crossing the river

    in this fable YOU are the frog if you believe anything the cdc, fda or nih strongly suggest you do without defining proof of its safety and not from the source of the initial suggestion

    to those of you who have not yet drowned , Godspeed!

  4. Babeltuap says:

    Doesn’t matter. SCOTUS today was making up data out of thin air. Sotomayor said 100K kids were on ventilators. False and they blasted her on social media for it. A SC justice of all people. What good is a SC if they believe in spontaneous combustion of facts. They are good at only one thing; dragging everyone to the gates of hell and slamming the gate shut.

    • Deap says:

      Sotomayor is not only a Princeton grad, she got the university motto from its long standing traditional “In the Nation’s Service” ….. to include all of humanity. How global, how useless.

      Remind me how she got appointed to SCOTUS and is serving all humanity right now? I’ll take wise Latino Ted Cruz any day on SCOTUS over this wiseacre Latina, and that is even on a bad day for Ted Cruz if we are doing Princeton grads of distinction …. in the Nation’s service.

    • Fred says:


      Yes, it looks like two of the ‘justices’ didn’t bother to hear evidence but came with preconceived conclusions, reinforced by the same old news sources they’ve always read and listened too. Sotoymayor, the ‘wise LatinaX Karen’, so terrified of Covid Authoritarian varient that she stayed home and ‘phoned it in’. More than 100,000,000 Americans are affected by these mandates and the best these people can do is close their minds before they begin. God help us.

      • Deap says:

        Sotomayor is morbidly obese. Consequently we need to cut her some slack, if her covid fears are personal. They should be.

        • Fred says:


          She needs no slack, she needs ‘content’ in her character. If she is actually obese then the failure to ensure her own health by remaining physically fit is her responsbility.

          • Lysias says:

            She also has diabetes, which no doubt is connected with her obesity.

            As someone who also struggles on the borderline of obesity and diabetes, I sympathize. In the past couple of years of that struggle, I have recently won with megadoses of Vitamin D, but, to do so, I have had to ignore what doctors say.

  5. Eric Newhill says:

    This story is further confirmation of other observations and studies, some of which are pre-C19. VAERS simply isn’t consistently or reliably used.

    Doctors are busy and don’t want to be bothered with that kind of administrative work. That’s their culture. Patients are also typically too involved with their lives and they are uninformed.

    Insurance struggles to obtain things like medical records from physicians and hospitals, even when it is in their contracts to supply those on our demand. There are all manner of compliance forms that care providers gripe about and blow off, but that are mandatory. Again, the gripe is that they do not have time or resources to deal with it all.

    The only reliable and robust data in this game is with insurance companies. Insurance knows the full medical history (diagnoses, procedures, etc) and demographics (and much more). There has been a surge of deaths and other serious health events among those under 45 years of age. Insurance is working to parse out the causes. It’s not covid killing them. The work is sensitive for “political” reasons. Insurance is highly aware of the damage an angered federal government could do to a company. My humble prediction is that at some point later this year an unfavorable cost/benefit calculation (by insurance) of vaccine administration to those not at risk of a serious bout of covid (healthy, under 45) will be carefully and subtly leveraged to drive an end to the vaccination mania. The latest wave of covid hospitalizations and deaths is helping with that drive toward sanity because so many double vaxxed + booster people are among the casualties – and we now know with certainty that not only are they still getting clobbered by the virus, they are also able to transmit it.

    • Barbara Ann says:


      Did you see Dr Robert Malone’s recent article citing an Indiana Life Insurer (OneAmerica) reporting a 40% rise in all-cause mortality among 18-64 year olds compared to pre-pandemic levels? The CEO reported this statistic as “..consistent across every player in that business”. That is a staggering figure and as you say, coming from that (your) industry it can be relied upon as accurate.


      • Eric Newhill says:

        Barbara Ann,
        Just read the link. Thanks.

        I would caution against assuming the spike in deaths is due to vaccines. Some small amount? Maybe. Still being worked out. Mostly though it’s looking like deaths of despair (includes drugs and alcohol) + deferred and denied care 2020 – 2021.

        That said, you know I have a spiritual outlook on what life really is; what’s really happening. We are not meat robots.Man does not live by bread alone. We are souls connected to other souls and energies on many dimensional levels. When there is a massed, continuous crossfire of bad mojo aimed people, the soul/psyche suffers and that suffering is manifested in the physical expression, the body. Then the body breaks at its weakest point.

        The speed and ferocity of the ubiquitous hate media that everyone is wired to 24/7 is unprecedented.

      • TTG says:

        Barbara Ann,

        How does that 40% rise in mortality square with the claim that there are no excess deaths? A rise in the mortality rate is what the “Covid as a serious epidemic” crowd have been saying for at least a year while the “Covid is no more than a seasonal flu or even a hoax” crowd have claimed no increased deaths. The chart showing daily deaths in Indiana shows spikes that coincide with Covid infection/death spikes. Also heard reports today that the Omicron variant has exacerbated or even caused other health problems in people who didn’t even know they had a Covid infection such as causing diabetics to go into ketoacidosis or non-diabetic children to develop diabetes.

        • Eric Newhill says:

          Two different time frames. The increase in deaths in younger people is emerging now. The “no excess deaths due to covid” (the virus, not the panic) was earlier on; way back in 2020. But you’re deliberately presenting the most unsophisticated opposing [to your covidian stance] argument. My argument was always that covid is largely killing those who were going to die in short order anyhow. So over a two or three year period there will have been no excess deaths. Btw, the mortality rate (age sex adjusted) in 2020 was lower than each year 2000 – 2004. Do you recall those years as terrifying?

          Covid causes diabetes in children? Sure. It also caused the I-95 traffic jam, inflation and cravings for fentanyl. Covid, like global warming/climate change, is very magical stuff and a hyperactive boogey man.

        • Marlene says:

          We here in Europe claim and have an excess mortality for all cuases which was not there before the vaccines.

          The effect on diabetes and even appearance of new diabetics is due to the vaccines, not Omicron.

          The thing is that each wave of complications coming from the vaccines side effects, overwhelming health care facilities and cutting the staff by half is named with a new variant to hide what is increasingly more difficult to hide.

          Curiously, every “variant of concern” comes with symptoms which could well be caused by the vaccines inyected six months ago ro more.

          The people is suffering from VADE ( vaccine associated disease enhancement ), hence the staffs shortages in the health sector whose sick leaves increased a 145%.
          Since the vaccines attack at endothelial vascular level you have anyone develops any condition, depending on previous comorbidities or genetic predisposition of lifestyle, but look for any condition ending in -itis, becuase accute inflamation is one of the general effects of this vaccines, hence we are having, diverticulitis, pancreatitis, celulitis, uveitis, optical neuritis, cistitis, nefritis, glomerulonefritis, miocarditis, pericarditis, in waves and numbers, and also ages ranges unknown before the vaccines, not to mention the increase in strrokes, with new wards being created to attend the avalanche, new cancers and fast invasion of those suffering from them in mass.

          That after being vaccinated you can not practice sport at the requirements of professional level is a clamor and a fact both in the play fields and in sports media. never in history so many young fit people have died or got crippled for life while playing sports, there is a lot of footage and funeral registers.

          Last affected the georgian playing the Open in Australia from which Djokovic was banned, after being invited, make hi travle to Australia, to then try to humilate him by keeping him stuck in the airport for nine hours, then brought to a refugee facility withou acces to his personal luggage, neithe his mobile phone nor a simple underwear for change…But, at least he is healthy and safe, to fight…His father and his nation took it as a personal attack, the old man called a meeting with press where he called to wake up and rise up agsint this shameful dictatoship, and labeled his son “the Espartacus of the fre world”…You do not want ot mess with the Serbian people…To see which unknown unknowns we will have to wait…You can not control all the derivates of complex systems, but this people seem to like to play hard…

          But the people is increasingly waking up to these outrages which have nothing to do with public health nor helath in general and all with sub,mitting people to the interests of few hedge funds which mainly own the vaccines and probably also the insurance companies.

          Soon, theyr are already annoucing it, you wilkl have to get a chip into your skin that will continually test your homeosthasis and will allow the health insurance companies to calculate what they must charge you according to the state of your health.

          It is not difficult to imagine that funds who own the harming vaccines creating a lot of new comorbidities and agravating existing ones, and are after the public health care systems inm Europe which are getting totally discredited by the most despicable individuals working in them what, added to the collapsing for two years in a round, largely contribute to their demise, are also after the insurance companies which will charge you in the future.

          That this is a mafia scam, with a few actors creating the problem, worsening the problem, and then offering the solution is a fact for anyone who is honest enough with himself to see it.

          If you can not see it, and continue thinking the governmetns obeying orders fronm these hedge funds are out there trying to save you from death, it can be two things, either yo uare in total denial of reality, or you directly know this could save the US economy at Eu expenses, as happened in the past, that it is your hedge funds which will own all the European health systems by previously collapsing and crippling them.
          You think you will be spared from the looting, but it will not be.

          You only have to follow what Dragui, the unnelected Gooldamn Sachs and Biderberg guy, does, to know which are the goals here.
          Dragui just decreed mandatory vaccination for those up 50 years old, which means they try hard to get rid of the so called “baby boom” generation, to retire in a decade or so, who they do not have the intention to pay a penny in pensions.

          But the people will fight, and they know it, hence Kazakhstan…

        • Barbara Ann says:


          Good question. If this report is accurate the very least we can say is that there are very many excess deaths in spite of the policy to Vaxx the population as fast as possible. Dr Malone’s article sensibly claims no explanation of causality and instead observes that “..the genetic vaccines so aggressively promoted have failed..”. This is IMO an entirely reasonable conclusion given the fact that the Vaxx has all along been promoted as the panacea to bring mortality down.

          • TTG says:

            Barbara Ann,

            From the article:

            “The CDC weekly death counts, which reflect the information on death certificates and so have a lag of up to eight weeks or longer, show that for the week ending Nov. 6, there were far fewer deaths from COVID-19 in Indiana compared to a year ago – 195 verses 336 – but more deaths from other causes – 1,350 versus 1,319.”

            That’s a big drop in Covid deaths, but not much of an increase in non-Covid deaths. Granted the insurance company’s sample included only employees of companies which bought their group life insurance, but it seems to me it would take some statistical finagling to get to a 40% increase in that sample when statewide it was under a 3% increase.

            The drop in the Covid death rate shows the vaccines are working, even if they’re not the magic bullet they were originally claimed to be. Plus we don’t know the vaxed/unvaxed ratio of those deaths for this year. We can assume the 2020 deaths were all unvaxed.

          • Marlene says:

            Relationship between vaccination and overmortality in the USA

            There is a delay of 4 or 5 months between both effects, so the reported cases of deaths at 14 days are only the tip of the iceberg of the tip of the iceberg ..


            They are reporting number of deaths in a period when many health adminsitrations do not even consider you vaccinate and thus a death taking place in that slot of time is considered, at accounts level, as an unvaccinated person, the same if that person took its last doses six months ago.

            It is at the period of 4 or 5 months when the carnage starts, of all causes.

            Then for the theory by TTG on that every vaccine in the past performed similar and harmed and killed similar, that is not the case with Covid vaccines…Offcial data, not from the anti-Covidvaxx crew…


          • Deap says:

            TGG writes, without attribution as to facts or cites:

            …….”The drop in the Covid death rate shows the vaccines are working, even if they’re not the magic bullet they were originally claimed to be. Plus we don’t know the vaxed/unvaxed ratio of those deaths for this year. We can assume the 2020 deaths were all unvaxed……”

            In the same spirit, I offer the following rebuttal:

            1. Nothing show the “vaccines are working”, as a magic bullet or not. Where are your placebo control studies to confirm that statement?

            2. 2020 deaths were mislabeled as “covid” deaths, but in fact were recorded as proportional “covid” increases in the same ratio as declines in the more tradition causes of death – cancer, heart disease, CPOD, diabetes, ESRD, etc. Johns Hopkins issued this data analysis warning in late 2020, pre election but was suppressed “because it might confuse the public.

          • TTG says:


            Here’s one placebo controlled study of one of the mRNA vaccines from the NEJM. There’s more available with a simple search.

            “In an ongoing multinational, placebo-controlled, observer-blinded, pivotal efficacy trial, we randomly assigned persons 16 years of age or older in a 1:1 ratio to receive two doses, 21 days apart, of either placebo or the BNT162b2 vaccine candidate (30 μg per dose). A total of 43,548 participants underwent randomization, of whom 43,448 received injections: 21,720 with BNT162b2 and 21,728 with placebo. There were 8 cases of Covid-19 with onset at least 7 days after the second dose among participants assigned to receive BNT162b2 and 162 cases among those assigned to placebo; BNT162b2 was 95% effective in preventing Covid-19. The safety profile of BNT162b2 was characterized by short-term, mild-to-moderate pain at the injection site, fatigue, and headache. The incidence of serious adverse events was low and was similar in the vaccine and placebo groups.”


            Here’s a cite for vaccinated vs. unvaccinated deaths from the Indiana Health Department. Again, a simple search will show similar results across the US.

            ““Statewide data leaves little room for doubt. Almost all of the Indiana residents who have died of the coronavirus since Jan. 18 have been unvaccinated. The state saw 3,801 coronavirus deaths between that date and Sept. 16 — 94% of them unvaccinated, according to an Indiana University Northwest analysis. The Indiana State Department of Health uses Jan. 18 as its benchmark because that’s the earliest date breakthrough cases could be identified based on the timing of the state’s vaccine rollout last winter.”


    • Carey says:

      Thanks for the above well-informed comment. My impression, though, is that
      the Powers That Be really, really do not want there to be a control group (of which I’m a member, and will remain so) available for purposes of comparison.

      For that reason my hunch is that the vaxxes, and the demonization of the unvaxxed, will continue; regardless of any pesky facts that might otherwise get in the way.

      • Eric Newhill says:

        I think the “Powers That Be” opened Pandora’s box and don’t know how to put all of that chaos and angst back into it. Also, there are competing factions, as always, within the Powers That Be. Some are diametrically opposed. For example, Gates and allied Greenies want to vaccinate the world and have population control. Biden needs to end this nonsense before the economy is totally destroyed by stagflation and the democrats thrown out on the streets forever. Aggressive type As aggress against each other too.

    • Fred says:


      I had an hour long chat with a friend in Michigan and learned the sad news that his brother-in-law, an alcoholic 60ish, died of a stroke. His trip to the hospital took an hour and 20 minutes because a number of facilities refused to treat him because he was, you guessed it, unvaccinated. Unlike the staff at the various ERs or in the ambulance. Sad.

      • TTG says:


        Sounds like an airtight case of malpractice and violation of the Hippocratic Oath. They treat alcoholics and smokers, don’t they? Any claim the ERs can’t handle infectious patients would be bullshit. Covid isn’t Ebola or smallpox.

        • Fred says:


          That isn’t the only place that has denied health care services to unvaccinated patients. Air tight it is, but that doesn’t mean the estate is going to succeed in a legal action in SE Michigan.

        • Marlene says:

          Denying help, not neccessarily in a health care facility, but even in the streets, by a health care professional, is not a malpractice case, since there is no practice whatsoever, it is a criminal case.

          That this happens in a health care facility onl yacts as agravating, since the means to help multiply.

        • Eric Newhill says:

          It’s also illegal – or used to be in the days before the great reset. See the law involved with EMTALA.

          You cannot turn away an arrival at the ER if you can treat them.

          • Fred says:

            I’m sure the ‘patient’ wasn’t refused treatment, it will turn out that the ambulance was simply told there was ‘no room at the inn’ and to go elsewhere.

      • Eric Newhill says:

        Some physicians in the linked article complaining that the presence of covid makes a patient exponentially more challenging to treat.

        Also, now that Trump is gone and the covid as killer plague meme is hurting Biden and other democrats, states are beginning to adjust their hospitalization reporting to be more reasonable and less scary. Basically, what some of us have said all along; that a large proportion of what was said to be covid hospitalizations were/are hospitalized for other reasons and the covid is incidental (or a false positive). Same with covid deaths (heart attack and had the sniffles or tested positive = covid death)

        • Fred says:


          Yes, yet all the staff at the first three or four places were ‘vaxxed’ and masked too. So much for ether being effective. The terror campaign seems to be working quite well though, as we see with 6 of the SC Justices either too scared to appear in person or masked when they are. I’m sure they never do like Swallwell and AOC and vacation maskless in FL.

        • Deap says:

          Biden must “cure” covid by Nov 2022. The narrative is already shifting, even if the data is not.

    • Datil D says:

      After hearing OneAmerica’s CEO Scott Davison in a virtual news conference in Indiana comment about a 40% increase in the death rate among 18 to 64 year old adults, statistician Michael Crawford commented “I’m sure I’m one of many who wonder what kind of diamond mine of data the insurance companies are sitting on, and what it would reveal if we didn’t all think they’d face a guillotine-wielding mob for sharing it.”


    • Deap says:

      ……all of the above were supposed to be remedied by “electronic records”.

      Except all we get now is a doctor who won’t look us in the eye and hides behind a computer screen writing CYA reports to some unknown digital deity.

  6. FWH says:

    There was a recent report that most of the injuries and deaths reported on VAERS have been traced to a handful of the over 4,000 batches. Somebody implied that there must be some intentional contamination, but there is another possible explanation if the report is accurate. It is that a handful of the hospitals and medical providers have reported diligently, while most have failed.

    The good news would be that some providers acted with diligence. The bad news would be that the higher level (diligent) reporting more accurately reflects the number of injuries. I very crudely averaged the higher level reporting to be about 50 deaths per batch. If 50 is multiplied by the over 4,000 batches it equals…….hmmm.

  7. Marlene says:

    The nitty gritty and why there are so many health care personel complying and keeping silent under omertá is that, far from being true belivers of the Covidian cult, there seems to be substantial bribes in all this.

    Read these past days that those adminstering the experimental vaccines are being currently paid at certain administrations 25$ per vaccine inyected…Imagine you shoot one vaccine every 3 minutes ( the way it is being done in certain regional health services againt regulatory agencies recommendations on instructing about warning on side effects symptoms and precaution of keeping the patient in sight during at least 15 minutes just in case an anaphylactic shock could happen..) during an hour, you have people earning a good bonus of 500$ per hour of vaccination. Who cares if the cattle die in the way home since you ousted him/her just with the sleeve rolled up…

    Then there is talk ion that any intubated patient into ICU means around 40.000$ per case for the hospital nad probably head of ICU service.
    We have knowledge of a close friend, unvaccinated, who catched Covid, allegedly by a pharmacy test, had to go to hospital because of low oxygen rate, was having a goo evoultion, Twitted the same morning and in the afternoon his family was informed he had been intubated…Adter 5 days, once deintubated, he could tell that the ICU nurses made a kinda protest action ewalking around the room in protest for the unnecessarily stay of some patients there..

    Just yesterday we knew of a patient in a private clinic in Catalonia, who wanted voluntary leave from hospital, was told that that only would be possible with a judicial order, and in the verge of being intubated, the patient escaped the clinic, what implies he was way too well to being intubated.

    This way, we have currently people, even from the health care sector, but honest people who do not want to harm anybody nor make profit with illness and death, who are keeping their sick elders at home in the worry that they will be misstreated, applied counterproductive treatments or directly killed through sedation, as some testimony told happened to he father, all this under high suspicions of their own coworkers on unappropiate procedures…

    Then we know that in New Zealand, medical doctors are being paid 2000$ + travel expenses per euthanasia applied.

    All this pecunary business is, I fear, what is behind the astounding silence of the medical community on the genocide going on..and not their faith in the “vaccines”..

    • Deap says:

      Health care is a commodity; not a right. Buyer beware.

      • Marlene says:

        No, maam, health care ccan be a commodity in the US, bu tit is a right inscribed in certain European Constitutions, along with home and education, free press, free speech, freedom of movements, freedom of belief, freedom of thought, this is why current dictators in the EU, like Macron, Dragui, Sanchez, Scholz, are jumping over the countries´ Constitutions and the people is too busy feeling superior to their fellow nationals by owning a ridiculous cattle tag pass to go to the allienating malls, which will bring their own bankruptcy and that of their nations all along.

        • Deap says:

          You cannot have a right to the services of another person; nor can you define what “health care” actual entails. This makes it a specious right. Shame on the EU. “Health care” as a right is nothing more than an unregulated wealth transfer systems, with no checks or balances. Let alone any accountability for outcomes.

      • Marlene says:

        The right to privacy of own medical and personal data is also a right inscribed in our Constitutions, something is all the time violated by the “nazi pass”.

        No people with comorbidities will find a job in the totally privatized society those at the top are building for their continuous profit where jobs will be scarce, nor many will be able to pay for the health insurances quota plus meds, some of those people even currently willingly contributing to their own demise, especially alcoholics, meds abusers, obese, diabetics, and cardiovascular patients who widely contributed to this dictatorship by wrongly trusting it is all for their own good..

        Then, once ruddely awakened to the harsh reality. it will come the crying screaming and pulling of own hair out..

  8. Marlene says:

    The conclusion..

    Exhaustive analysis, analyzing data from around the world, conlcudes that the global vaccination program has made the pandemic worse for populations, not better.


  9. Marlene says:

    Adding to the vaccines serious side effecgts, we have the rate of suicides ahppening in all ages ranges, to which contriobuted the hard work by almost all Western and Eastern governments in making life impossible to their citiznery, especailly those unvaccintead who resist in self-protection of own life and health capital, which is wealth as that coming from savings, both riches the hedge funds behind all this are after.

    From 0 to 29 years, rate of suicides cuadrupled.

    From 30 to 39 years, reate of suicides trippled.

    From 40 to 49 years suicide rate got a quarter high, suprassing rates of deaths by Covid…

    Very telling on which are the goals here, depopulation and lowering mood, something opposite to public health and care.

    Well, I guess not even TTG would deny that the way Macron addressed past day part of the French taxpayers ( who continue being taxpayers even already unemployed, until they get totally bankrupted…) is directed to this goal, since a government looking for its citizenry to bankrupt only could be defined ad criminal.

    That all the coming French elections´candidates run to Twitter to complain about Macron´s statements, but then with nocturnity and allevosy voted in the Assembly for the conversion of the Covid Pass into Vaccine Pass, only to get achieved through vaccination, is very telling on what to expect from all these candidates, including hypocrites like Marine Le Pen and Jean Luc Mélenchon, who have said no word against all this during two years in a round.

    • Barbara Ann says:

      Macron said « Un irresponsable n’est plus un citoyen »

      The US has its Deplorables, now the country that gifted us Victor Hugo has its Irresponsables (Unvaxxed).

      “What followed was the Denaturalization Law passed on July 14. As a result of this law, the Reich government could take away the citizenship of those who were deemed “undesirable”, applying to anyone who had been given citizenship by the Weimar government. Those who saw the results of this law first were the ‘150,000 Eastern Jews in Germany'”


      These days where is no need to actually take away citizenship from the group deemed to be untermenschen. Macron’s proposed law will simply bar the Irresponsables from society until they starve.

      • Marlene says:

        In fact that of Macron is a projection to protect himself from escrutiny and accountability, since what was irresponsible was first to vaccinate as more people as he could, including the whole health care staff, then fire all the unvaccinated health care workers he is now calling to work again, and even making work those testing positive with mild symptonms, what proves this is all a conspiration to terminate economy and ovrwhelm health care systems plus impossing, as you well say, a nazi regime..

        “One dictatorial decree followed another … Jews were only allowed to shop between 3 and 5 in the afternoon. They couldn’t go outside after that time. They were closed to theaters and cinemas, as well as any other public entertainment venue.”
        Ana Frank´s Diary….

  10. Deap says:

    The shifting narrative on covid – the end is at hand – and comes from the magical state of Wakanda, which adds extra gravitas:


    • Marlene says:

      Yes, even medical associations of the first level of health care are stepping up to claim for a more rational framework, forget about mass testing and tracking, and start practicing medicine as it was before this happened, assuming we will probably have to live with another bug.

      But those organizing this are not willing to stop ( I am increasingly feeling we will have to do it…) their media are already talking about a new variant deltacrón( a mix between Delta and Omicrón..), found in Cyprus…
      This is, of course, so that both, medical doctors and scientists, along the population, can not stop to think, analyze the events, and look for responsible and reparations.

  11. Sam says:

    A must read for those following @DjokerNole gate. Facts outlined in his complaint are incredibly damning for the government if true. They appear very credible.


    Djokovic’s affidavit to an Australian court is very interesting. The covidian takeover of Australia is a sight to behold. The Northern Territory government head honcho is going for gold. He’s now banned the unvaxed from employment unless of course you’re a member of the laptop class. Eerie reminders of a time past . Are the covidians the descendants of the Third Reich in terms of dividing society on the basis of “clean” vs “unclean”?

    • Marlene says:

      Well, the so called Australia Open resembles now more the Australia Closed, you do not have but to see the number of people watching, sad…
      To this add the vaccinated players having to leave the matches because they can not breath deeply, as happened to Georgian top player, Nikoloz Basilashvili…


      His counterpart, Tsitsipas, fresh like a letucce…

      It is easy to guess that at this pace all this tournaments will end soon, or will become a Roman Circus where hghly likely unvaccinated players, awarded that status by the also unvaccinated elites governing with which they collaborate propagandizing vaccines, will not have any problem in beating the vaccinated rest, so that to concentrate all the prizes, whose money they then will keep in the bank they have just become the face…
      The interest in this sport´s tuornaments will banish in zero coma, hence Nadal is looking for other horizons…Another business to hell…


      Then, this…


      International sports press making a “putin” with Djokovic, attention to the photos expression…


      Another one, this is completely new..

      Al Wakrah player Ousmane Coulibaly collapsed during the game against Al-Rayyan in the Qatari league.


      It has been 350 of sportsmen suffering cardiac arrest during the whole 2021
      They needed the vaccine to travel.

      Of course as the recent hack on the Big Pharma shows, there have been batches more deadly and harming than others, since this is a trial, a lotery you play without any compensation or willing submission by you in case you took the shot only to be able to continue working and make a living…

      People who see this well is not honest people, period, all the more when even assuming all this unnecessary harm, the plan is never return to normal…

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