“Countries with strict gun control hit by recent mass shootings and gun violence”

“”The most effective way to reduce gun deaths is to reduce gun availability. Right now we have guns flooding into the legal market, and then they move into the illegal market,” Gun Free South Africa director Adele Kirsten told AP.

Denmark has similarly restrictive gun regulations, with GunPolicy.org also classifying the country’s laws as restrictive. But the strict laws were unable to prevent last week’s mass shooting at a mall in Copenhagen, where a lone gunman opened fire on shoppers, killing three people and injuring seven more.

Danish citizens hoping to obtain a license to own a firearm have to prove there is a genuine reason to own a gun and pass a background check including criminal and mental health, while the government keeps a record of citizens that are currently allowed to buy, own, or sell guns. 

In neighboring Sweden, authorities have been grappling with an increase in gun crime over the last several years despite similar laws. According to a report by ITV News London, Sweden recorded 342 shootings and 46 gun murders in 2021, an increase from only 25 shootings as recently as 2015. Like Denmark and South Africa, Sweden’s gun regulations have been classified as restrictive by GunPolicy.org.”

Comment: There seems to be a correlation between very restrictive gun laws and the level of crime committed with guns. Japan, where it is almost impossible to own a gun saw Abe murdered by a man who manufactured a black powder firearm. The same thing seems true in the US. The really big cities and states have tough gun laws but are so afflicted while other areas without such laws are not.

In any event anyone who seriously thinks the American people as a whole can be disarmed is a fool. pl

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33 Responses to “Countries with strict gun control hit by recent mass shootings and gun violence”

  1. Whitewall says:

    It would be a fools errand to try to disarm the American people, but DC is full of fools. Easier way will be to amplify these emotional cries for ‘just do something’ gun control laws every time a mass shooting takes place. Emotion wears people down. Free people will eventually beg to be disarmed imagining that will save us from ‘gun violence’.

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  2. Fourth and Long says:

    There is a way to fix the terrible gun violence problem in this country America. It would involve quite a bit more than bloviation by crooked politicians and it would not be particularly nice. It wouldn’t involve disarmament of the American people. Repeat it would not involve disarmament of the American people. It would involve something else, something TTG has hinted at, but not at all in this context. I can’t say what it might be here, but it could be done. It would involve getting the message across that selling
    high powered guns to immature, irresponsible and possibly emotionally disturbed people is such a bad idea that only an incorrigible, unredeemable criminal would ever dare think to consider doing so. Preferably things could improve to where such steps are not required.

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    • walrus says:

      Fourth & Long: “ It would involve getting the message across that selling
      high powered guns to immature, irresponsible and possibly emotionally disturbed people is such a bad idea that only an incorrigible, unredeemable criminal would ever dare think to consider doing so. “

      …….So said King George and our Colonial masters. Were not our founders as a group characterised as “immature, irresponsible and possibly emotionally disturbed? That would have been the least of the descriptions, I mean they threw good tea into Boston harbor! What sort of malcontent does that?

      Let the Supremes make one tiny crack in the second amendment and the left wing will drive a wedge into it.

  3. Fred says:

    I’m shocked to see criminals don’t respect laws about gun free zones, or purchasing and possession of weapons by felons, and of course the laws against the crimes they are trying to commit in ‘defense’ free zones. It’s almost like the looters in San Francisco not worrying about getting charged with stealing now that the politicians made anything under $900 a misdomenor and the prosecutor let them go even for those.

  4. Al says:

    Col. You note that, “…The same thing seems true in the US. The really big cities and states have tough gun laws but are so afflicted while other areas without such laws are not…” But what “seems” is often not at all based in fact, but more due to preconceived inclinations.

    For instance, Illinois (specially Chicago) is often noted by gun rights folks to exemplify the futility of gun control measures . But, lets look at the facts, Illinois has a gun death rate of 14.1% per 100,000 pop. Right next door in less gun laws state of Indiana the rate is 17.3

    The higher regulated states:
    NY state 5.3. Calif 8.5

    The highest rates of gun deaths are in relatively loose gun control states:
    Wy 25.9
    Miss 28.6
    Mo 23.9
    Mt 20.9
    Ok 26.9
    Alaska 22.6
    Ala 23.5
    La 26.3
    Tn 21.3

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm

    These States Have the Highest Rates of Gun Violence and …https://www.healthline.com › health-news › these-states-…
    Jun 1, 2022 — Past research has found that states with lax gun laws tend to have higher rates of violence and deaths related to firearms.

    • Pat Lang says:

      Al
      Illinois is not Chicago. Rural states suffer a high rate of accidental shootings especially in hunting.

    • Fred says:

      Al,

      Since we in the West have all gone “critical race theory”, can you give a racial breakdown on who/whom is killer/killee?

      • Al says:

        Fred, from what I recall from past reports nearly all gun kills are racially/ethnically same on same.

        The recent mass grocery store killing by a white on blacks and a white on El Paso TX Hispanics might change that a bit.

        • Fred says:

          Al,

          Come now, you are ducking the question and throwing out a ‘look, squirrel!’. The results are easily discovered by looking at the FBI data files.

        • Bill Roche says:

          Al; 13% will get you 95% every time.

    • John Minnerath says:

      AI
      Using the CDC as the source for your figures throws red flags everywhere.
      CDC is a totally discredited wokist agency.
      Not worth the least bit of consideration.

  5. Al says:

    Col, I beg to differ with your re hunting firearms deaths. The International Hunter Education Assoc notes that for all of USA and Canada there are usually 1000 firearms hunting accidents per yr, of which 10% (100) result in death.

    • Pat Lang says:

      Al
      What are you arguing for?

      • TTG says:

        pl,

        Hunting accidents are a minuscule part of gun deaths. Figures from 2020 show suicides is the largest contributor with 54% of the deaths, murder was 43% and all other gun related deaths was only 3%. I would hazard a guess that handguns are involved in the majority of both suicides and murders. Too bad it’s the ugly black plastic “assault weapons” that get all the press.

  6. mcohen says:

    Strange innit strange hey that if you look at the gun crime stats you will find that there are very few committed by members or ex members of the military same with law enforcement members.
    Wonder why
    Those countries with national service the same.
    Not sure what this all means.Respect for the weapon,for the potential of the weapon,discipline,pride in bearing arms.?

  7. scott s. says:

    I think it’s pretty well-accepted that for white males, suicide by handgun is the preferred method. That needs to factored into any discussion concerning rates. I suppose if you could conceive of a situation where guns would be incredibly hard to obtain, there would be some reduction in suicides, though I assume some would just shift to another method and over time the rate would return to the pre-ban rate.

  8. mcohen says:

    Also make guns a compulsory subject at school for everyone.the history.the culture.weapon handling.target practice by ex military or police instructors.Just change the mental behind the trigger finger.Banning weapons in the usa will not work now but might after top gun school

    • Al says:

      If the NRA would return to their roots and be a true organization promoting marksmanship as well as gun safety, I would return to membership in it. Their since internal corruption and politicking has made a mockery of the past valued org.

      The NRA sponsored .22 rifle team I shot with as a teen in late 1950s, ingrained gun safety as well as marksmanship…
      And, not a hint of politicking back then.

      Later, as a recruit in the Air Force, the rifle range Sgt was quite impressed with the tight grouping I put on target with a quite worn .30 cal carbine. “Airman, where did you learn to shoot?”

    • powderfinger1 says:

      This will fix mental illness how?

    • Al says:

      Mchohen, firearms are so plentiful and much ingrained in our culture that “banning” firearms would be impossible.

      I would prefer to see mandated firearms training for all firearm possessors….and, for youth living in homes containing firearms.

      • Fred says:

        Al,

        That’s an excellent idea. I would expand it and make firearms traing a requirement to graduate high school, or teach in one.

      • Bill Roche says:

        I would prefer to see open carry in every state of the Union of States as allowed by our 2nd A. Years ago on an early Sat AM I entered a Midas shop for a muffler. The owner was just ahead of me and put coffee on. Two guys followed us in and the 4 of us sat quietly sipping our coffee. The owner was setting up his cash register and I commented “don’t show that money around”. He said you’d have to be pretty quick and showed me his revolver under the counter. The guy on my right said not to worry. He was a retired NYC police detective and he had a pistol strapped to his ankle. The guy on my left said we were all safe as he had a shoulder holster under his coat. Early March morning in America and I was the only fellow unarmed. I got my muffler, paid the bill, wished all well, and drove home. I felt very safe.

  9. powderfinger1 says:

    If we could just make killing people illegal it would probably fix everything….oh wait.

    • Al says:

      PE1, “For every complex problem, there is a solution that is clear, simple, and wrong.”…. H. L. Menken

  10. Babeltuap says:

    The population of Englewood has declined by close to 75% over the years naturally due to the violence. It is the only solution but it takes time. A massive voluntary re-location program would work but they won’t do it. Doing so breaks up historical dem districts.

    End of the day the poor can not lift of the poor, only drag each other down further which is what is happening in these districts. Spreed them out and if they start criminal enterprises it can be smoked out by people who do care and by people who will snitch.

  11. JK/AR says:

    Finally …

    The Associated Press gets something correct!

    https://twitter.com/apstylebook/status/1547309549488640000

    Now if only the politicians …

    • TTG says:

      JK/AR,

      The AP is technically correct, but those cows have long ago left the barn. The automatic fire function of assault rifles, machine guns and machine pistols is already severely restricted and regulated. It’s the quickly changeable magazines of the of the oh so scary AR-15 and AK style rifles and carbines that have the anti-gun crowd up in arms. The assault rife term has just become shorthand for those weapons.

      Actually, I’m surprised the NRA and 2A advocates have not raised more stink ab out the onerous restrictions on automatic weapons and explosive devices. If I was serious about defending myself and mine from government overreach, I’d want a good supply of those explosive devices cached about.

      • JK/AR says:

        Careful there TTG … But yes that door’s been long gone off the barn and taken the hinges with it.

        Now as to that last sentence we wouldn’t want to get Al & Co. all riled up now would we? I mean if serious. Which of course no one in their right mind is.

  12. walrus says:

    Suuuuuure gun control and restrictions work. Our restrictions are tough…….if you are law abiding that is…

    Otherwise the dark web is your friend.

    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7814235/manhunt-under-way-after-melbourne-shooting/

    https://www.9news.com.au/national/more-gun-violence-in-melbourne-as-home-cars-shot-up/506abf2e-5f52-4621-81bd-7d96e0716532

    https://7news.com.au/news/crime-melbourne/man-found-dead-in-middle-of-melbourne-street-after-gunshots-heard-c-7351164

    However, my Son is a Police Officer and I worry about what he may one day confront.

  13. JK says:

    Oh Aaaal!

    Al ol’ buddy you anywhere close?

    “18 Jul 2022, 12:30 pm”

    “According to Greenwood Police Department Chief Jim Ison during a news conference, a 22-year-old carrying a firearm shot and killed the active shooter.”

    “The 22-year-old man who stopped the shooter was legally allowed to carry firearms and is from nearby Bartholomew County.”

    https://mustsharenews.com/indiana-mall-shooting/

    Al. As I’m certain the news that a CCW holder – the proverbial “good guy with a gun” is gonna be all over CNN and MSNBC – and heck maybe even President Joe will announce in the times proved way of pols “My thinking has evolved” will make an appearance in the Rose Garden – is soon to go nationwide.

    You doubt that Al? CNN & MSNBC going wall-to-wall with that?!!

    Waayyyl. I have to admit some doubts as to whether the President is gonna make much hay about that in the Rose Garden too.

    My expectation being it’ll just slip his mind. So to speak.

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