"This revelation has broad geopolitical implications. Since the late 1970s, Saudi Arabia has financed Al Qaeda and the recruitment of the Mujahideen. Saudi Arabia is a state sponsor of “Islamic terrorism”. Saudi Arabia is also a staunch ally of the United States which, according to the Chairman of the Israeli Labour Party finances the Zionist political agenda of Likud in Israel.
M. Ch. GR Editor
Isaac Herzog, member of the Knesset and Chairman of the Israeli Labor party, revealed that Saudi king Salman bin Abdulaziz financed the election campaign of Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.
“In March 2015, King Salman has deposited eighty million dollars to support Netanyahu’s campaign via a Syrian-Spanish person named Mohamed Eyad Kayali. The money was deposited to a company’s account in British Virgin Islands owned by Teddy Sagi, an Israeli billionaire and businessman, who has allocated the money to fund the campaign Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu”,
Herzog cited a leaked Panama Paper." Global Research
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Is this generally known in Israel? pl
I look forward to the logical endpoint of this mating ritual. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider_cannibalism
I would take any article from Globalresearch with a grain of salt. Many of their articles seem reasonable but they do occasionally entertain some wild conspiracies. The claims in the current article would require more serious digging than would be available from just the Panama papers. GR is not known for its in depth research and to fill in gaps with wild speculation.
ToivoS
You are perhaps unfamiliar with Lang’s dictum that sources and information must be considered separately. pl
Colonel
Saw it mentioned in Almasdarnews yesterday :
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/panama-papers-data-leak-king-saudi-arabia-sponsored-netanyahus-campaign/
I find this a little unclear. Consider Chalabi and Curveball. How is one to separate those two sources from, what we know now, was pure fabrication? Maybe at first they needed to be taken seriously, but later?
ToivoS
This is a basic matter of intelligence analytic methodology. Sources who are usually unreliable may on occasion provide good data. Intelligence analysts amass large archives of material and these enable cross checking of data to determines the probability of truth. pl
Global Research has a lot of far-left commentators who provide unwelcome information and perspectives that the mainstream US/UK and European media would prefer left unspoken. They do post nutjobs on occasion, but generally it’s pretty easy to see whether or not the things posted are facts with accurate analysis, or complete nonsense.
This one has an MP from the Israeli Knesset, no?
“Isaac Herzog, member of the Knesset and Chairman of the Israeli Labor party, revealed that Saudi king Salman bin Abdulaziz financed the election campaign of Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.”
An Israeli politician of a major party talking about revelations about Netanyahu – either he’ll be able to back those accusations up, or he’ll pay a political price. So this is a “wait and see” moment – not a “dismiss it out of hand because it was posted on Global Research” moment.
Primary source is the Panama Papers and they are raw documents from the Mossack Fonseca firm’s data. All can be tracked by competent forensic accountants, so this is not a case where skepticism about the media source is relevant. Under the concept of “my enemy’s enemy is my ally,” and with Iran being a big shared enemy of Saudi Arabia and Israel, this is not IMHO a stretch in the least. In DC a year ago, a Saudi general was engaged in a public dialogue with Dore Gold just before he took over managing the foreign ministry for Bibi. Saudis are also mediating rapproachement between Israel and Turkey…
These are the two final paragraphs from the article:
“In March 2015, King Salman has deposited eighty million dollars to support Netanyahu’s campaign via a Syrian-Spanish person named Mohamed Eyad Kayali. The money was deposited to a company’s account in British Virgin Islands owned by Teddy Sagi, an Israeli billionaire and businessman, who has allocated the money to fund the campaign Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu”, Herzog cited a leaked Panama Paper. (Update): A spokesperson from Isaac Herzog’s office reached out to Al-Masdar News on Monday to confirm that this quote was fabricated.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/panama-papers-data-leak-king-saudi-arabia-sponsored-netanyahus-campaign/ | Al-Masdar News
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/panama-papers-data-leak-king-saudi-arabia-sponsored-netanyahus-campaign/ | Al-Masdar News
Every day it seems more and more as if all the news is being ghost-written by staff scribblers at The Onion.
Another source a year old:
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/04/15/did-money-seal-israeli-saudi-alliance/
I’m quite willing to believe it on the basis of their past history in addition to this article.
Toivo
Source are estimated on a 1 to 5 scale, from untrust to trust.
Intelligence data are estimated the same way, from impossible (1) to likely true (5).
Then you add the numbers.
From 5 to 10 intelligence data get up in your Intelligence Research Plan.
Under 5 just wait another bit of Intelligence to go on searching.
That’s OTAN method.
The other is what was saying one of my colonel ” Information is like a melon, smell its ass and you will know”.
IMO this one smells good.
All
1- I am curious as to who directed journalists to the particular “Panama Papers” that incriminate Salman/Bibi. There are so many papers. 2- Harper tells me that his friends are double checking the individual papers. pl
Aleksander
This one smells to me something like a ripe cantaloupe. pl
The al-Masdar piece is followed by 3 links to an Israeli online marketing/trading firm: only the freezepage link still contains the article (in Hebrew):
http://talniri.co.il/marketnews/article.asp?mp+4&id=76320
….as of 8-May-2016 09:17 GMT
“חדשות היום
חיפוש כתבות
הודעות בורסה
מסמכי פנמה המודלפים: מלך ערב הסעודית מימן את הקמפיין של נתניהו.
ראש המחנה הציוני,ח”כ יצחק הרצוג חשף כי “סלמאן בן עבד- אלעזיז מימן את הקמפיין של רה”מ בנימין נתניהו.”
מערכת טלנירי | 8/5/16, 07:12
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ראש המחנה הציוני,ח”כ יצחק הרצוג חשף כי “סלמאן בן עבד- אלעזיז מימן את הקמפיין של רה”מ בנימין נתניהו.”
לפי אחד ממסמכי פנמה המודלפים ,הבהיר הרצוג כי ” המלך סלמאן העביר 80 מיליון דולר במרס 2015 למוחמד אייד קיאלי –סורי ספרדי – כתרומה לקמפיין של נתניהו, והוא העביר את הכסף על ידי חברה באיי הבתולה הבריטיים לאיש העסקים והמיליארדר הישראלי תידי סגי שהוסיף אותו למימון הקמפיין של רה”מ בנימין נתניהו.
טלנירי מציעה לך את מגוון השירותים תחת קורת גג אחת!
פתיחת חשבון למסחר בארץ ובארה”ב, שירותי איתותים לישראל, ארה”ב והמעו”ף, שירות החזרי מס, תוכנת ניתוח טכני ועוד… השאר את פרטיך ונחזור אליך בהקדם
שם מלא*: טלפון*: דוא”ל:
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Judging by the timestamp, could this be the original source of the Herzog quote?
All
In re: sources and information, I ended up seeing what I could find based on my memory of the mid-70s (well before the Internet) and my interests then, and I chanced on this tonight: http://tinyurl.com/d75kskb
lally
What the Israelis are saying to each other at present is largely unimportant. What matters is what is in the documents. pl
As reported by Seymour Hersh in “The Redirection” (published in 2007), Israel and Saudi Arabia entered into a Strategic Relationship to counter Iran that called for using extremists as a weapon. The safety and security of Israel in this arrangement was guaranteed by the U.S.
The first target was to be Syria, which these nations saw as part of Iran’s ‘strategic depth’. Numerous data points since 2007 point to the validity of Hersh’s reporting.
Aside: In this context, the aim of the nuclear agreement with Iran could be viewed as containing Iran until Syrian regime change was achieved.
It is not surprising that the principle countries leading the Syrian regime change effort would try to ensure continuity of the political regime in each of the compatriot/conspirator countries.
Furthermore, it gives one pause when we are told by neocon establishment figures that “Trump will not be President”.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/03/05/the-redirection
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Some may recall that there were musings in 2006 or so about Saudi Arabia wanting “the bomb” as a deterrent against Iran. Use of extremists to counter Iran might seem like a more logical answer to growing Iranian influence – especially since ME nuclear proliferation threatened Israel.
Yet this immoral policy has backfired spectacularly with terror, refugees, failed states, political turmoil (Trump, now Netanyahu, etc.) and now KSA threatens to acquire a nuke anyway (though that’s probably just an attempt to entice Iran to break the agreement). What a mess!
I’m in total agreement with you there, sir. The source documents are the real deal.
From my own perspective/use, hopefully, there is a searchable database akin to the wikileaks embassy cables and or the Clinton emails (WSJ is good on the later).
Frankly, I have yet to come across one but haven’t done an exhaustive search yet, either.
The Herzog quote does provide some useful search terms…
This only confirms what As’ad Abu Khalil has been writing about for years at Al-Akhbar–Israel and the Saudis are in bed together. And how!
He also reported that the Saudis underwrite much of the news media in the Middle East as well as some regimes, such as Jordan and HarirI’s goverment in Lebanon, enforcing ‘moderation’ towards Israel.
Sad that it looks like al-Akhbar seems to be reorganizing and mellowing its coveage.
Abu Khalil’s blog: http://angryarab.blogspot.com/
Perhaps like one of these? Time to dig a trench and get a wheelbarrow of horse manure!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_melon
Smells like BS.
Bibi doesn’t need Salman’s money. Half of the people of Forbes billionaire list are philanthropist Jews who are big political donors.
If money did change hands, it was most likely protection tribute being paid to Israel.
These people are all on the same team. The whole thing is big racket and Americans are being taken to the cleaners by these people. We need someone like Trump in office to put an end to this crap.
Harper,
It would also be consistent with their behavior in Turkey. They gave millions to Erdogan’s campaign last fall.
– Eliot
FWIW Yossi Melman, former intelligence and strategic affairs correspondent for Haaretz, has said that Issac Herzog has denied to him that he ever said such a thing.
I agree. It’s like David Irving’s site. People will dismiss info out of hand because it’s published by David Irving on his website, based solely on the court case mounted by Deborah Lipstadt and the Israel Lobby to discredit his work, a court case Irving lost that branded him unfairly as anti-semitic and a denier. But he was/is a meticulous historian. His revelations about Churchill during WWII via private contemporaneous diaries, official journals, records, and employee logs is a remarkable tour de force. There are youtubies where he described what he uncovered in his research into Churchill. His three-inch book on Churchill reads like a thriller.
His research into Hitler by contacting either the original person or surviving spouse, and obtaining original diaries and other official documents no one else had ever asked for is another revelation. Irving learned German to penetrate the trail of truth that no one had bothered to follow. A much maligned man, imo.
BS? Why spend your own money when someone else will front it?
Larry Kart
Oddly, I knew Yossi Melman when he was a very junior spook in the Israeli embassy in DC 25 years ago. He is the ultimate chutzpah artist. pl
@Jackrabbit,
Who’s to say that KSA does not already have the bomb? If so, it would be surely be a great secret. Perhaps one of the most important ones worthy of knowing only by the very highest leadership. There is plenty of circumstantial evidence pointing in that directions (AQ Khan, financing Pakistan military for years, Chinese IRBMs, the hands-off nature of diplomatic realtions between KSA and others). Then there’s former Sen Bob Graham’s “novel” Keys to the Kingdom.
One way to guarantee limited foreign interference in your country by outside and larger powers is to have a nuclear deterrent. Just ask Israel.
RP
Also how will Sara Netanyahu survive on her husband’s salary !
One source of money for personal use in lieu of buying votes .
Should the United States and the European Union decide to wage the same kind of economic war that they waged against Iran, against the State of Israel, in my estimation, within 3 months the Israelis will raise the white flag.
Their nuclear weapons does not confer either strategic depth or strategic autonomy on them.
That is why they have to cultivate the Cult of Shoah….
“Sources who are usually unreliable may on occasion provide good data.”
No doubt Melman is a piece of work, but I do think it’s likely that Herzog has told Melman that he didn’t say what we’ve been told he said. Whether Herzog did in fact say that King Salman filled Bibi’s piggy bank remains to be seen, but I thought it should be noted that Herzog reportedly has denied saying that he did.
Larry Kart
Right. When I knew him Melman was playing Sancho Panza to his boss the IDF GS liaison man in DC. The colonel was later Israeli ambassador in London. Melman was thinly covered as a grad student but it was obvious that he was an IDF intel man. I took him and his boss up to Gettysburg once to see their reactions to a really big battle. Jeff White was along on the trip. Melman couldn’t get his head around the scene and kept chattering away. he particularly couldn’t grasp the idea that PWs were routinely paroled on the field or shortly thereafter. He said that meant the two sides were not serious. I told him there had fifty thousand casualties. He fell silent. His boss finally won my approval when he said “this was all about Lee, wasn’t it?” pl
Colonel – all:
Nothing that many here are already thoroughly aware of but interesting to see all the information in the one place.
“These guys are now supposedly discussing the setting up of yet another “emirate” in Syria’s Idlib province. But the recent cessation of hostilities “catalyzed a dramatic re-empowerment of Syria’s moderate protest movement and the revitalisation of the most [sic, yet again] moderate elements of the opposition”.
An anonymous Free Syrian Army (ie: ‘moderate’) commander is quoted by Lister as confirming that al-Qaeda forces “represent everything we are opposed to, they are the same as the regime. But what can we do when our supposed friends abroad give us nothing to assert ourselves?” What “a broad spectrum of Syria’s opposition” need, therefore, is “a substantial expansion of military, political and financial assistance”.
These Free Syrian Army groups, Lister says, now number 50 – phew! – vetted by the CIA, all of which “operate in coordination with locally legitimate [sic yet once more] civil, political and judicial bodies”.
So who is the writer Charles Lister? Among his various academic duties, he’s a senior consultant for the “Shaikh Group’s Track II Syria Initiative”. The “shaikh” in question is not a Middle East potentate but Salman Shaikh, director of the Brookings Doha Centre in Qatar and fellow at the Centre for Middle East Policy, formerly the Saban Centre for Middle East Policy (the “Saban” being Haim Saban, the American-Israeli film and television mogul who donated $13m to the centre and has given substantial funds to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign).”
Read in full: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/after-splitting-with-al-qaeda-al-nusra-is-being-presented-to-the-west-as-a-moderate-force-it-s-a7022271.html
IMO
My uninformed suspicion is that NSA mined these papers searching for something else, probably laundered terrorist support funding. When they came up with this, it was briefed to Obama and he decided to make some artistic use of it.
God knows that the Saudis and Bibi deserve a kick in the ass. pl
ToivoS
You do not understand the difference between intelligence analysis which seeks truth and the misdeeds of politicians who will do or claim anything to prevail. Have you ever been in government? pl
ToivoS
You have been here a long time. What is the attraction? Is it just an opportunity for general trollism? Shut in with a Berkeley library card? IPs are deceiving thing but yours has shown you to be in the East Bay area for years. Got a real case for the US, don’t you? Jack London type? Retired Black Panther? La Raza on-line rep.? Run of the mill Hasbara? pl