Hillary and the Gulfies


"While this military/para-military operation is moving forward, we need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and  other radical Sunni groups in the region. This effort will be enhanced by the stepped up commitment in the KRG. The Qataris and Saudis will be put in a position of balancing policy between their ongoing competition to dominate the Sunni world and the consequences of serious U.S. pressure. By the same token, the threat of similar, realistic U.S. operations will serve to assist moderate forces in Libya, Lebanon, and even Jordan, where insurgents are increasingly fascinated by the ISIL success in Iraq."  John Podesta to HC in 2014


This did not affect her.  The Clintons and Clintonfoundationworld have continued to this day to receive massive infusions of cash from both Saudi Arabia and Qatar. 



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80 Responses to Hillary and the Gulfies

  1. plantman says:

    Remember when GW Bush said that ‘states that finance terrorism will be treated the same as the terrorists?’
    I guess that doesn’t apply to Riyadh, the epicenter of global fanatical jihadism.
    And, let me get this straight: The Clinton Foundation still gets money from these homicidal maniacs that is funneled into US elections???
    Man oh man, what a loony world we live in.

  2. alba etie says:

    I am writing in Bernie Sanders on my national ballot ( sigh … )

  3. different clue says:

    alba etie,
    Given the fact that Sanders has not/ will not file any paperwork pursuant to running as a write-me-in, I will be voting for something Not Clinton that is on the ballot.
    Trump is distasteful, but if preventing a Clinton victory is important enough to be worth enduring the pain of a TrumPence Administration for 4 or 8 years, then I will vote for TrumPence and be ready to take the pain.

  4. Frank says:

    Considering Bernie made a deal with the devil, I must ask why not just go ahead and vote for Hillary?

  5. Joe100 says:

    After seeing this at No Quarter this morning I have been wondering if key Clinton Foundation funders who benefited from a “linked” action by HRC as SOS are effectively in a position (at least before the election) to effectively blackmail her by threatening to go public about the contribution linkage.
    I suppose at some level, the same leverage would persist if she is elected?

  6. Sam Peralta says:

    The hypocrisy and hysteria is running at full throttle. With Hillary we have certainty of more of the same. More wars, more coddling the Gulfies, use of governmental powers to benefit the big donors, etc, etc. We’ll also be back to the drama of the 90s with Bill & Hill back in the WH. The Deplorables will not tuck their tails and go home.
    If Trump despite all the odds comes across the finish line ahead, we’ll have another kind of domestic war.
    Either way we should be prepared for more vitriolic battles at home. Great for all our adversaries.

  7. The Beaver says:

    You will love this one:
    “I would like to see more successful business people run for office.”
    -Hillary Clinton, in a paid speech at a Goldman Sachs summit
    29th October 2013

  8. VietnamVet says:

    From the leaks it is clear that mid-level experts, more or less, have a grasp of reality.
    The Gulf Monarchies support for the Syrian Islamist rebels and the Clinton Foundation and Hillary Clinton’s quid pro quo support for a No Fly Zone over Syria isn’t the only issue.
    Life expectancy of poor whites Americans is falling. The Sackler family which that owns Purdue Pharma that makes oxytocin is worth 14 billion dollars and has ties to the Clinton campaign and family foundation. The last time a similar decline in life expectancy occurred was in Russia in the 1990’s during Boris Yeltsin’s rule when the Harvard boys privatized its economy. Hillary Clinton earned 21 million dollars making speeches to Wall Street oligarchs and staff. Follow the money. The looting of America continues.
    I will vote for Jill Stine because I cannot vote for the other three. Perhaps a new FDR will arise who restores the rule of law; otherwise, the escalating world war or a third American revolt will splinter everything apart.

  9. Imagine says:

    [sorry for repost.] Would Pence make a better president than Clinton?

  10. plantman says:

    Bernie Sanders job was to lure another generation of suckers into the warmongering Democratic party.
    All I can say is, Mission accomplished.
    Bravo, Bernie ya rotten sellout!

  11. Cortes says:

    Perhaps when voters understand the machinations behind the economic policies followed by Obama’s Administration they’ll be a little less inclined to vote for Mrs Clinton: a taster of scenes of “the man behind the curtain”:

  12. rakesh wahi says:

    this is beyond insanity- clinton foundation does not benefit clintons at all, if a criminal wants to fund HIV treatment why would a charitable foundation not accept it. This foundation has open books – look them up, th last I checked UN accepts Saudi money so does UNICEF

  13. Earthrise says:

    I was thinking the other day about that old anti-war saying: what if they called a war and no-one turned up? It seems that many in the West, certainly the ones awake and tuned in, support the role Russia is playing in the world. I was also considering the role I would play if WWIII broke out, and how long it would take them to black bag me. Now I understand that the next war is unlikely to feature mass infantry, more nukes than knives. But if they did institute the draft, how many would resist, or even if they don’t how many would work against their governments? Many will follow Goering’s call to fall in and shun the peacemaker, but many including myself won’t.
    How much do you think this potential fifth column plays into the Empire’s decision to date not to go to war? Or more broadly, what if no-one turned up to their little war? When you look around at the terminal apathy that has gripped the West, could this also work against them trying to whip us up for war? Has the boy cried false flag tried it too many times? Drones and nukes might reduce the need for mass armies, but I can’t see how anyone can win fighting abroad and at home at the same time.
    Funny to think our fat, lazy asses might actually save us.

  14. turcopolier says:

    I was thinking today of how much the Zombie paradigm fits the populous now. pl

  15. turcopolier says:

    rakesh wahi
    Are you really this naïve? There are a million ways to benefit without taking any money from the foundations. What’s your thing? The Assange stuff are forgeries? pl

  16. Jack says:

    What alternate universe of delusion do you live in? Maybe you can share what you’re smoking.

  17. eakens says:

    The Clintons came out of the White House “dead broke” in their own words. They’re worth an estimated $200M+ now. Do the damn math.

  18. FkDahl says:

    Colonel et les autres francophones: what do you think of this claim that Europe, following the 73 oil embargo agreed to allow a parallel Muslim workforce in Europe?
    Alain Wagner: la stratégie d’islamisation de l’Europe par le monde musulman
    I am not familar with M. Wagner.

  19. Pundita says:

    I thought this was important enough to break into the conversation about Clinton, etc. From John Batchelor’s conversation night of Oct 11 with Russia expert Steve Cohen, it looks to the Kremlin as if a flailing American Borg is quite determined to bully Russia over the ledge.
    If Mr Obama is just bluffing his way out the door, he seems to have overlooked that the Russians see his actions as an existential threat, as Steve makes clear.
    So if I read the conversation correctly, the chance of a mistake or accident in Syria or Ukraine touching off war, which could easily lead to a nuclear exchange, gets better by the hour.
    In that case the horror for Americans would be that the US mainstream media have no intention of informing the American public about this critical turn of events in US-Russia relations, other than portraying Putin as Saddam Hussein and deserving the same fate.

  20. jld says:

    It’s not so much that life expectancy is “in decline” but that healthcare in the US is completely f**ked up:

  21. Earthrise says:

    Dear Host, I wonder if this is part of the fascination with Zombie stories recently. I know when I watch an episode of Walking Dead, I spend another hour going over the apocalyptic survival questions the show raises. You can’t lie to your sub-conscious, it sees and hears all. People know all this can’t last in their heart-of-hearts; even this city-slicker has taken up learning to grow vegetables. As you say, at the moment we are the zombies stumbling mindlessly towards oblivion. But afterwards the few who remain will become human again. If our future goes nuclear, well the last of us will turn out the lights. But if the apocalypse is just our economy collapsing and us slipping back to the simple life, what a blessing that would be. To be human again.

  22. jld says:

    IIRC a condo and a Maserati?
    Quite cheap.

  23. homeroid says:

    Yes makes me think of my Xgen son who is as big as a house. Not lazy at all but big. If a bomb went off i would want to be behind him. Thanks for all i read here over the years. Bob.

  24. wisedupearly says:

    200 million? the clintons are cheap at twice the price.

  25. Harry says:

    Rakesh, when Bill Clinton meet Loretta Lynch in a private plane at Phoenix airport, who was paying for Bill Clintons plane?

  26. LeaNder says:

    Yes, that part of the larger argument ran through my mind over and over again during the last years too. “Dry out the money sources”, with the ultimate source always considered the state. …
    Made it ever complete sense in the “War on terrorism”? State actors versus irregular actors? And to what extend do you increase the chaos if you join in the support and sponsorship for non-state actors as state and/or 60+ coalition?

  27. turcopolier says:

    I see you are from Alaska? You don’t happen to know Gary Paxton do you? He was originally from Sitka. We were infantry platoon leaders together. pl

  28. turcopolier says:

    “what a blessing that would be. To be human again.” Amen. pl

  29. turcopolier says:

    It seems implausible to me. pl

  30. wisedupearly says:

    meanwhile, in a country that has sucked up close to 800 billion dollars of tax payer money over the last 15 years, corruption is worse than ever.
    And who is named and shamed for failing us? Obama and Clinton.
    “A comprehensive anticorruption strategy drawn up by the embassy in Kabul and sent to Washington in 2010 never won Secretary Clinton’s (or anyone else’s official) endorsement. ”
    Needless to say, the Taliban are taking over, again, making a mockery of the deaths of >2,300 Americans in Afghanistan.
    It seems that Washington finds corruption so much easier to work with than civitas.

  31. LeaNder says:

    Either way we should be prepared for more vitriolic battles at home.
    and maybe more dirt??? Especially for the female target group:

  32. The Beaver says:

    @ Pundita,
    It’s not only the American public, just check BoJo , the FM in UK and Flamby, the French President. Both want to bring Assad and Russia to the ICC whilst both countries created the mess in Libya, Syria and Yemen(at least the UK).

  33. anonymous says:

    You meant OxyContin (maybe your spell check changed it)

  34. Degringolade says:

    The Clinton Foundation spends an absurd amount of money (approx 80%) on travel, administration, and salaries.
    I have been in the HIV detection and treatment business for 25+ years and no one I know in the field is aware of the Clinton foundation awarding anything but paltry sums and those are usually in deals and technologies that make folks in the business scratch their heads in confusuion.
    I think that the total awards out of the Clinton Foundation is around 9% of the take. and that is all areas, not just HIV.
    The books have been opened. They stink my friend.

  35. rjj says:

    Beaver, also on new season on “Have I Got News for You” all are singing from the same page.
    Boris Johnson et al paying the price for their place on the greasy pole?
    All Golden Calf converts?
    An epidemic of Stockholm syndrome?

  36. LeaNder says:

    Is it worth listening to, except that Sarkozy is on the rise again in France, trying to sound like Marine le Pen? In academia the “Arab Mind” updated via the “clash of cultures”?
    German TV is back to White helmet imagery in reports about Aleppo. With something that looked like a confusion in the larger technical setting in adding the appropriate icon to the left upper side I just stumbled across. There seemed to be a new icon for a few seconds, before it was adjusted.

  37. Edward Amame says:

    Sorry but this is baloney.
    A former president, Bill Clinton, leveraged his access to foreign leaders and pharmaceutical execs to try to get their help in expanding access to anti-malarial and HIV/AIDS drugs, fighting climate change, promoting sustainable economic growth in Africa, etc.
    On February 18, 2015, The Washington Post reported that, “the foundation has won accolades from philanthropy experts and has drawn bipartisan support, with members of the George W. Bush administration often participating in its programs.”
    Charity Navigator is a nonprofit that evaluates charities by looking at what percentage of the funds they collect goes for their stated mission, and how much goes to administrative and fundraising. Charity Navigator gives the Clinton Foundation a 93% out of 100% for transparency and a 97.5% out of 100% for financial. 87% of funds raised go directly to the the programs and services it delivers. If you know anything about charities, those are very good numbers.
    CharityWatch, says that 88% of the foundation’s money goes toward its charitable mission and gave the foundation an A rating for 2016.

  38. LeaNder says:

    feel free to delete my response, with no doubt some irrelevant meanderings.
    But strictly there is that meta-narrative that Russia sponsors the right over here…

  39. bks says:

    Is that why Bush fought having a 9/11 investigation and then would only take questions if he and Cheney were in the were both present?

  40. Matthew says:

    Another head-fake for the Saudis? See https://uk.news.yahoo.com/raf-given-green-light-shoot-133352631.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw
    So the RAF is going to shoot down RuAF jets that “threaten” them….but the British jets will try to avoid such situations.
    Right. That’s like challenging a man to a fight…if you happen to bump into him at the South Pole.
    Seriously, the British are just begging the Russians to declare a no-fly zone after most of Syria.

  41. MRW says:

    EXCELLENT article. Thanks, Cortes.

  42. MRW says:

    Foundations are only required to spend 10% of their earnings, or fund-raising haul, on whatever they were ‘founded’ for, be it world-peace or climate change, like the outrageously slick foundation Leo DiCaprio has.
    The other 90% is tax-free for ‘foundation expenses’. So take the case of Bill Gates. The foundation owns his spread in WA. Only 11,000 ft of that is considered personal living space. When you see the photo of the compound–I flew over it and took pictures and compared it to architectural plans published in a local newspaper–that 11,000 ft is like one finger out of ten. All his travel is paid for by the foundation. He travels by private jet. He can claim any aspect of his life a part of the foundation and have it paid by the foundation. He just has to have great accountants who will get these “expenses” into the right silos. The rich developed these foundation schemes when tax on the rich went to 90% after WWII. And. And. And. They get the benefit of being looked upon as great philanthropists, which is how all these rich dudes sold the idea to Congress back whenever.
    Why do you think rich people get foundations. It’s like setting up our own private government free of taxes and other worldly bothers.

  43. Old Microbiologist says:

    The only good thing is a draft or even more immediate, a recall of retirees, takes a long time. Modern warfare would be over in days when major forces (not tribesmen) start trading nukes. Denial of terrain becomes the immediate problem. The US is currently over deployed, have abused all equipment and systems, making a real war impossible. I wonder what the ALO levels are for our combat divisions are these days?
    I recall an exercise we conducted in 1986 where we recalled 50 retirees back to active duty just to see how bad it would be. It was beyond bad with fat and sick old farts and a few werevalready dead. The spirit was willing though but their bodies were to a large extent beyond repair. Certainly not within months. It took us over 2 weeks just to get them rounded up and in processed.
    Some of us retirees joke amongst each other about a recall. I believe I could report for duty in 72 hours and am in reasonably excellent physical shape for my age, can still parachute in but doing a LRP would be rough. I am not too certain I can even shoot anymore since my cataract surgeries. But, technically, I am still on the short list for a recall being one of the few subject matter experts in my field. God help us if they are counting on us to bear the load.

  44. swampy says:

    “I suppose at some level, the same leverage would persist if she is elected?”
    Not really. I would think her leverage with drones strikes would be greater.

  45. Generalfeldmarschall von Hindenburg says:

    Britney Spears would be a better President than Clinton. So would the person in the cubicle next to you at the office. Out political class is really in terminal decadence. This is what Yale and Harvard produce these days? Game Over! I’m sorry I’m sounding like someone on Zero Hedge…

  46. Generalfeldmarschall von Hindenburg says:

    Dear Rakesh Wahi,
    A big reason plutocrats start supposedly charitable foundations is as collossal tax shelters. When Bill Gates supposedly gave all his money to the poor, all he did was shift it to a legal entity that can then hire him as a consultant. In this capacity, he will of course have to have a luxury aircraft to jet him between his houses in Gstaad, Bimini, Seattle and whereever else Bono happens to be having a party. It’s the same with the Clinton Foundation. As Doug Henwood pointed out, Hillary gets rich by doing a itty bit of good (eg: providing FEMA trailers to Haitians) and then influence peddling behind a smokescreen of feel good B-S.

  47. Mac says:

    A penny for your thoughts on how a HRC administration will affect our policies toward the Ukrainians and Syria –
    Are her stated objectives election year political pandering or do you sense we will soon come to characterize 2017 in very dark terms?

  48. trinlae says:

    Oh you mean that bank with the majority saudi shareholders?

  49. turcopolier says:

    Very dark terms. pl

  50. turcopolier says:

    Edward Amame
    I guess you just don’t want to understand what a great tax dodge a foundation is. They don’t do anything illegal. Neither does Bill Gates. Neither did Trump with his loss deduction. pl

  51. VietnamVet says:

    Yes. Thanks. Old Age. I also misspelled Jill Stein. In my 73 years I have never been as astonished as right now. It is not just the blatant lying. It is the eagerness to spread war. The contempt for an informed public. In Tidewater’s post and comments below I just learned that the Saudi’s have lost 8 ships of the coast of Yemen. All indications are that Hillary Clinton would escalate America’s support for this debacle.

  52. Dubhaltach says:

    In reply to alba etie 11 October 2016 at 02:36 PM
    So to register your protest instead of actively opposing either of the two viable candidates even in as small a way as voting. You’re going to do something utterly futile and write in for somebody who is himself actively supporting one of the candidates. Just because Bernie Sanders lacks the courage of his convictions do you have to too?

  53. Anna says:

    As if was written today morning:
    By Gilbert Doctorow: “..quoting Tolstoy’s recommended cure for the war fever of the arbiters of public opinion…”
    “I would only make one condition,” pursued the old prince. “Alphonse Karr said a capital thing before the war with Prussia. ‘You consider war to be inevitable? Very good. Let everyone who advocates war be enrolled in a special regiment of advance guards, for the front of every storm, of every attack, to lead them all’!”
    “’A nice lot the editors would make!’ said Katavasov, with a loud roar, as he pictured the editors he knew in this picked legion.”

  54. Mac says:

    I was hoping you’d tell me to stop being so silly, its an election year, that I should know better….

  55. MRW says:

    Haitians demonstrated outside AG Schneiderman’s office in Manhattan the other demanding that the Clinton Foundation not interfere in their recovery.

  56. johnA says:

    Perhaps one day in a land far away we will look at fact and real data(if we can find it) and not the 30 thousand foot view , which is all they want you to see.
    I love it when they try to use the “other admin” head fake to draw one away.
    “Overall I consider the Clinton Foundation to be a charity fraud network. I base this conclusion on my review of extensive data about its operations including the activities of the Clinton family and their friends in Haiti, a nation that has suffered many disasters, both natural and manmade.
    What possesses powerful, wealthy, and educated persons to prey on the most desperately poor humans on earth as they posture as “philanthropists”? And why has there been no government oversight?
    Expect an increased flow of detailed disclosures centering upon Exhibits 1 through 40 through this website, and continued reaction to breaking developments via my twitter account”
    Perhaps Edward will take some time to investigate on his own.

  57. johnA says:

    here is just a small sample of your “baloney”.
    Awaiting your reply …
    “The concept of “inurement” is one that most nonprofit organization board members should be familiar with. In common language, “inurement” is a concept that means a board member, donor, or employee can’t benefit excessively from the organization’s funds.”

  58. TonyL says:

    That’s unfair. Bernie has inheritance and can affortd these things.

  59. Dubhaltach says:

    In reply to jld 12 October 2016 at 02:40 AM
    “It’s not so much that life expectancy is “in decline” but that healthcare in the US is completely f**ked up:”
    In a way it doesn’t actually matter why the decline is taking place. Just that it is, in another way of course it matters very much. Because how on earth are you going to reverse it if you don’t have a grasp of what’s going on.
    To take a non-US example of how you can get a deadly synergy:
    In Russia during the period when Yeltsin and his oligarch chums were looting the place – the decline in life expectancy was due to:
    Food production and distribution being effed up – a lot of people died directly of hunger. Even more died of hunger related diseases.
    Simultaneously there was a drastic drop in the provision of medicines and medical care. A lot of people died because even if they got to see a doctor they could no longer gain access to the medicines they needed.
    Concurrently with those two there was a catastrophic rise in the supply of some quite appalling heroin derivatives. Notably the one called “krokodil” which gets its name from the way in which the flesh of those addicted to it is eaten away.
    Each of these intensified the health crisis in Russia and led directly to the decline in life-expectancy.
    While you’re right in your characterisation of US healthcare that and that alone aren’t enough to even describe let alone explain what else is going on. There are other factors – The Wall Street Journal have a good (and alarming) report here: Life Expectancy for White Americans Declines – WSJ

  60. Edward Amame says:

    According to Forbes, an investigation into the Clinton Foundation (thanks to “prodding” by the GOP that I’m absolutely certain was not political! sarcasm face here) is just getting underway. So what’s your point?

  61. Edward Amame says:

    Col Lang
    All Judicial Watch’s so-called Clinton “scandals” are exhausting (not to mention BENGHAZI!!!). Not sure why this one will be different. I’ll believe this is a genuine scandal when a reputable news org or the IRS says, yes, this foundation is just a tax dodge and not the great org that all these different charity watchdog groups say it is.

  62. turcopolier says:

    Edward amame
    Do you not notice that the FBI director said he would not investigate the Clinton Foundation further. The same is true of IRS. You do know that they all work for Obama do you not? A major news agency? You think the Podesta e-mails are a fraud? They make it clear that the major media vehicles are branches of Ft. Clinton. the Russians hacked the e-mails? Hell, I could have organized that from my home. pl

  63. Edward Amame says:

    I did. Ortel is a partisan hack, a prominent “birther” who also co-authored a book purporting to document the infiltration of the Muslim Brotherhood into the US government.

  64. Edward Amame says:

    Col Lang
    Google reveals that both Fox and Forbes are reporting that the IRS is investigating the Clinton Foundation.
    Are you familiar with the “Clinton Rules?” Don’t be so sure the media was/is so in love with HRC.
    See here for the media’s “Clinton Rules” from political reporter Jon Allen, written back in 2015:
    Trump’s campaign strategy was to generate lots of free media coverage in lieu of advertising. Well his strategy has worked but his theory that all publicity is good publicity isn’t working so well in an undisciplined pres campaign like his.

  65. turcopolier says:

    Edward Amame
    Do you not watch TV news? The IRS investigation will be suppressed after the election. pl

  66. different clue says:

    Bill Clinton to Loretta Lynch: ” Nice career youse got there. Such a shame if something was to happen to it.”

  67. johnA says:

    I go to the source docs and read and compare to what I can find on either side.
    I suggest you do the same and drop the pointless attack lines lest you be tarred with your own smears.
    Good reading, you may learn things are not as you are told.

  68. Earthrise says:

    Thank you for your service Old Microbiologist. And very good point about mobilisation times, this is how we used to know the war was on, now we don’t even get that. I am of the opinion that the soldier is doing their duty, and as such has very limited options to resist where they get sent or what they are ordered to do when they get there. The soldier is doing their duty; it is us as citizens who have failed to do ours. We have failed to prevent our governments from misusing our armed forces, and then failed to hold them to account afterwards. It seems on sites like this, the veterans are reminding us citizens what duty really means, and without a word of blame. With respect mate, we don’t need you in a Dad’s Army, we need you right here leading the citizenry to make sure no more of our boys and girls get sent to another bullshit war.

  69. Cee says:

    The only important thing is who Trump touched. What took Wikileaks so long to disclose all of THIS HRC criminality?

  70. Cee says:

    alba etie
    I’m voting Trump. She has to be stopped!
    Imagine the AIPAC bought off house and senate giving her a blank check!

  71. Cee says:

    All forms of blackmail are possible. I’ve read of video that Bill starred in. Eeeeew.

  72. Edward Amame says:

    Col Lang
    Not religiously. Sometimes the PBS NewsHour. It’s not being suppressed, but results won’t be known until after the election.
    I doubt the results, even if something were to be amiss, would be election-changing. From what I gather, Chelsea’s been running it.
    I’m curious. Is Judicial Watch and the GOP also clamoring for the IRS to investigate Trump’s somewhat-tarnished Foundation?

  73. Edward Amame says:

    Really Fred, that’s all you’ve got? The GOP has spent years and $$$ investigating Fast & Furious, Benghazi, and Solyndra and all they keep coming up with is some bureaucratic bungling at best. Tea Baggers must be frustrated. So now they want to hold impeachment hearings on the IRS. Looking forward to the day they start holding hearings on stuff the American people actually give a sh*t about. Then maybe Congress can get their approval ratings out of the basement (11% ?).

  74. Bill Wade says:

    The Thai King passed away today. My condolences, he was a good man.

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