"The Obama administration’s former Attorney General Loretta Lynch has made an impassioned video plea for more marching, blood and death on the streets – a video that was later posted on the Facebook page of Senate Democrats as “words of inspiration.”
The video is less than a minute long and begins by stating that people are experiencing “great fear and uncertainty,” with the unstated implication it is due to Donald Trump’s takeover of the White House.
" … we are more than one month into the presidency of Trump and as Tax Season nears, it seems the frenzy to get eyes on the Donald’s tax returns has once again reached a fever pitch. And sure enough, The New York Times in front and center again leading the charge, this time from top columnist Nicholas Kristof.
On Monday, Kristof arguably solicited a lowly IRS agent to commit a serious felony by leaking Trump’s tax returns to his newspaper, assuming, of course, his tweet was not merely in jest — though there seems to be little indication that Kristof was joking in the tweet.
“But if you’re in IRS and have a certain president’s tax return that you’d like to leak, my address is: NYT, 620 Eighth Ave, NY NY 10018,” Kristof wrote in a tweet." " Lawnewz
So, the former chief law enforcement of the US is appealing to the mob and imported paid anarchists to commit violence in the US in pursuit of the overthrow of a president who was elected in the existing constitutional order. Holder would be proud of her. Like him she is lost in a fantasy in which the civil rights struggle of the '60s and '70s must continue to be fought at all costs. Is this appeal of hers not a criminal inducement to violence in light of the actions of creatures like the rioters at Berkeley yesterday?
And, there is the phenomenon of Kristof and his editor soliciting a felony on the part of a sworn employee of the US IRS. It was well established in the courts during the Obama hunt for leakers that journalists are immune from prosecution for publishing classified information, but are they also immune for soliciting a felony disclosure of tax returns? pl
Is Kristof’s soliciting of a felony on the part of an IRS employee on the same level as candidate Trump’s soliciting of foreign espionage on Clinton and the DNC? Or were they both just engaging in sarcastic bullshit? If Trump would release his returns, he could prove that he’s not in hock to Russian banks/oligarchs and that he’s worth as much as he says he’s worth. Wouldn’t that take a lot of the wind out of the anti-Trumpers sails?
What Trump actually said was that if the Russians had HC’s missing 33,000 E-mails, they should give them to Assange so that they would be public. I do not think that is soliciting a felony since the e-mails were not statutorily protected US government information. p
You’re right. those emails weren’t classified or defense information, so it can’t be espionage.
No, it is not and you know it.
What “is not?” I remind you that when you imply that I am a liar you skate on the edge of eternity here. pl
It sure sounds that way to quite a few people I know – of both political persuasions.
So I broke a rule and clicked on a link to a World Net Daily piece. What Lynch said was that people needed to be willing to bleed or even die for the cause. Nowhere in this piece does she call for committing violence.
Would stealing tax returns be espionage? My guess is that Kristof is being just as serious as Trump as when he asked the Russians to release the emails. ““I will tell you this, Russia: If you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” the Republican nominee said at a news conference in Florida. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”
Tax returns to not contain net worth info. They deal with income. It’s quite possible to be a billionaire with zero income or even a net loss in any given year. OTOH, you could have a $500M net income if you were lucky that year. And the business Trump is in is known for extreme fluctuations between profit and loss. They would, however, contain a lot of info about each of the partnerships he is involved in but any net worth estimates would be guesswork.
Presidential Candidate Trump did not say “…if the Russians had HC’s 33,000 E-mails”.
What he said was “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails…”!
I am indifferent to the microscopic difference. pl
How far will they go? (serious question)
It really doesn’t matter. He may or may not have been serious in encouraging Russia to hack the emails. What matters is that he was all for the disclosure of hidden information offered by whistleblowing and/or hacking at that time. I’m all for that, too. I’d like to see more of it. I’d like to see Trump’s business and financial dealings with Russia, Saudi Arabia and others see the light of day. Sure it will wound him politically, but I bet the truth will dissipate all the innuendo about him being a Russian agent. He’s a self-serving sleazy conman, not a spy. And that conman’s desire to have a cooperative relationship with Russia is one of the most enlightened ideas on the FP front.
Thanks for this post. I think it’s very important to start naming the conspirators working to oust Trump. Soros has been a long time Obama backer so it’s no surprise that Obama is still willing to do his bidding for a certain faction within the globalist elite. But I see then both as figureheads, especially Obama (long a professional ‘front man’)… people for the public to focus on while teams of high level lieutenants, henchmen (and henchwomen) and minions work mostly in the shadows as they strategize and enact their dirty tricks to attempt to take Trump down. These players and their networks are much more important in the greater scheme of things, INO, than either Soros (who is old) or Obama (who is not a warrior).
Some more sunlight on this ‘shadow elite’ would be a good thing. Expect there are investigative reporters already working on this, especially on the right.
Trump knows what’s going on and has a game plan of his own. During the interview he did at the White House with several Fox News reporters, the day of this big speech to Congress, he was asked how he felt about Obama going after him, and with a very slight smile on his face he calmly dismissed it as “just politics.” A very subdued and carefully dismissive response. Quite uncharacteristic.
Given past history, I bet on Trump to be victorious.
I’ve been impressed that so far Trump’s tax returns have _not_ been leaked in spite of the intense interest. I expect to be disappointed any day, but until then I have to acknowledge that there are faceless bureaucrats in the IRS who are doing their jobs and following the rules.
Looks like the Senate Intelligence Committee has to be counted among the seditious conspirators. CNN reports “The Senate Intelligence Committee will gain access this week to the “raw intelligence” relevant to Congress’ probe of Russia’s role in the presidential election, Sen. Chris Coons said Monday.” In other news PBS reports Carter Page was “contacted by the Senate intelligence Committee about its investigation into Russia’s involvement in the 2016 election. In response to the committee, Carter Page said he will “provide any information” that may be of assistance to the committee.” I don’t know if this means Page will testify before the committee or not.
Loretta Lynch, the closet Malcolm X-er? Heh. Soon to be board member in the Obama Foundation, no doubt.
In the 60’s, at least there was a struggle to beat down segregation and racial injustice. Now it’s more about getting a bigger piece of pie, not for victims of racism but rather for college loan debtors and underemployed hooligans.
Given the scandal surrounding denial of tax-exempt status to conservative non-profits by the Obama-era IRS, I think the dems are wise to duck the pendulum swinging back at them. If Trump isn’t busy trying to hide efforts to beat the tax code, well, whose fault is it that the tax code is a bloated mess of loopholes and gotchas? If anyone has a case for which his tax returns would be admissible, let them throw the first stone. If it ain’t broke…
P.S. When the likes of Kristof promises rewards from the press, demand cash up front.
Or, as Henry II once said within the hearing of three unsavoury knights “Who will rid me of this troublesome priest?”
Henry II later had to crawl three miles on bare knees along the road to Walsingham as penance for those words. I can’t see Lynch or Kristof doing the same.
I’d like the committee to consider the following possibilities:
1. Kristof’s been assured by NYT lawyers or some such that he stands on a solid legal ground “soliciting” IRS employees to leak the Donald’s tax returns. Putting it out there like that and not receiving the returns makes him look silly, but at this point in the fight, he doesn’t care if he does. There’s also a slim chance that he’s already got the goodies; this is just posturing, and NYT will release them in due course.
2. Kristof’s been told that he can get in trouble for this “solicitation”, only if it can be established in court that someone leaked the returns due to his solicitation. This indicates the returns have been leaked, but they’ll likely be published somewhere other than the NYT. For example, a leaker may have leaked the returns to NYT and other newspapers, but the NYT has decided to sit on the material. This may force other newspapers Kristof suspects have also received the returns to publish them, fearing that the NYT may beat them to it.
3. There’s no leak. At least not yet. This is just to make the Trump administration believe the Donald’s tax returns have been leaked or are about to be leaked, and to force Trump to release his tax returns to deprive the “opposition party” of the opportunity to time their publication for maximum impact. Trump is amenable to cave in to this play, if his returns were merely a museum of tax evasion shenanigans expected of a NYC real estate developer. He can get out in front of the story; shape the narrative, and do damage control. After all, it can’t be worse than the Billy Bush episode, and Trump’s base support him regardless. But what if there’s more in those returns? What if even Trump doesn’t know what’s in them and how they can be spun?
For whatever it’s worth, my money is on 1.
Colonel – The American President has now been successfully established here as a hate figure. By that I mean that for millions of Europeans, particularly the young, it is no longer necessary to examine his policies or his actions as we should normally do with politicians; he is automatically in the wrong and can therefore be opposed without needing to discuss why. I see this from personal experience in Germany, in what I read from other parts of Europe, and also here. This link shows we can now take for granted that “Trump bad, Trump Resistance good” is self-evident. It’s a truth that no longer needs explaining.
The “populist” movements in Continental Europe are markedly different in origin and aim from those here and in America. So different that caution is needed before giving unqualified approval. For all those differences all these movements share a common theme: the taking of power back from the few and exercising it for the people as a whole. They are, in essence, reform movements and upon the success of that reform hangs the future.
That reform is of course opposed and the dominant elites of Europe are correct in identifying the Trump movement as being as much of a threat to them as it is to the American elite itself. Hence the surprisingly explicit opposition to the American President from European politicians; and the equally surprising volume of dismissive commentary on him in the newspapers and TV programmes. From what I see of the internet networks that is echoed there.
All this has its effect. From here it looks as if the old and corrupt regimes of Europe have successfully harnessed the idealism and enthusiasm of the young as those regimes fight to retain power. I do not find this a very cheering thought.
I agree that there was no solicitation of a felony by Trump in his comments about Hillary’s emails, but for a different reason.
In July, when Trump inquired about HC’s missing emails, her private server was safely air-gapped in the custody of the FBI in Quantico.
All Trump was doing (facetiously or not) was to ask the Russians to assist in the return of USG property that had been unlawfully destroyed against record preservation orders.
The FBI had good reason to suspect that since HC – having refused to accept an official State Dept email account – had mishandled official USG work product by using the private server. (They were right.)
Asking the Russians to share any HRC emails with the press that they may have collected while her server was in operation was a political stunt, but not likely criminal.
It’s a horribly divided country, each side hearing what they want to.
Have I written or suggested that congressional investigations of this matter are inappropriate? I think not. pl
Reminiscent of character-assassination and smear campaign tactics in many Third-World countries with immature political processes.
The video linked to is not, in any way, an appeal “to commit violence in the US in pursuit of the overthrow of a president.” She was urging people to stand up for their rights, to march if necessary (which is not illegal). She noted that that is how we have done it in the past, and that it’s never been easy, that people were injured and even killed, in the process — that’s just the facts.
Kristof was probably half joking, but who knows.
No, you never did suggest that. The lead in to my comment was just me being a wise ass. I do think any congressional investigations of this matter are going to fuel Trump’s anger and sense of persecution. It will trigger more pre-dawn tweet strikes. I also think the anti-Trumpers will be sorely disappointed that the truth is not as salacious as they hope it to be.
To paraphrase a line from the movie Sierra Madre: We don’t need no stinking demonstrations. DJT is doing a mightily fine job of demeaning and invaliding himself via his frequent statements of unsubstantiated claims. If this behavior continues, he may find himself in the same predicament as Chicken Little.
IMO probably wrong but neither WJC nor the Donald expected to win. So write off the first year of their Presidency. Part of the problem is that none of the BOOMER President’s understands the military or the so-called DEEP STATE. Their ignorance RULES THE DAY AMONG THE king AND HIS FOLLOWERS.
And both REPUBLICANS and DEMOCRATS in Congress are about to fall on their swords.
Proof–2 Trillion dollars needed to upgrade and clean up the bomb complex!
Yes, he continues to damage himself. pl
I also favor the ongoing or future investigations that may be done by or under DoJ on the subject of Russia/Trumpland possible connections and/or the nature and scope of leaks out of the Executive Branch or solicitation of cooperation from foreign intelligence services in planting information. pl
I’d say the globalists and the Borg (one and the same) have done a superb job in developed a scheme to undermine Trump and his America first agenda and rapprochement with Russia when they’ve got Col. Lang, et al., falling for the dupe and promoting crap to merely gum up the works and Trump’s agenda. Sic semper tyrannis, sed contra, go bitch when the globalist Borg (using their Deep State instruments) carries on with its obsessive neurotic antics.
Lynch seems to be trying to invoke the sacrifices made during the Civil Rights movement, not inciting civil disorder. Not criminal solicitation, just a ridiculous insult in comparing the Civil Rights movement to the hysterical and venal “resistance.” She already crossed more of an ethical line when she leaned on Comey to spike the Clinton email investigation last summer. If she said “burn, baby, burn,” that would be a different matter.
Drop warmonger R2P Kristoff in S. Sudan to starve with those he claims to care about.
I think the stakes all went up a lot today with the Wikileaks CIA dump. Given Congress was already going to dive into the various investigations on what is already a huge can of worms, this additional material, which I admit even being as cynical as I am that I found it somewhat shocking, is going to escalate everything. I can’t see any way the Obama administration can duck out of this one. Now it appears all “Russian” hacking has been the CIA all along. It is amazing just how out of control the CIA is.
The degraded level to which CIA sank during the Bush ’43 and BHO administrations is incredible. One o my friends, a retired DO man is writing a thorough and well fact checked piece on this. It will be interesting. What has occurred is so far as I know unprecedented in the history of the Republic. pl
You are a good example of the more effective type of troll. “they’ve got Col. Lang, et al., falling for the dupe and promoting crap to merely gum up the works and Trump’s agenda” A lot of the other trolls just rely on personal invective and insult. A favorite is to tell me that I need psychiatric treatment for degenerative senile dementia and that I am a hypocrite and a liar for supporting the president. I am not doing that. I am supporting the constitutional order. In your case you seek to denigrate SST and my efforts as naïve and “duped.” What a joke! Do you not understand that not everything can be said at once? I see that you are in the Washington DC area. This raises the question of whether or not you are part of the apparat written of by Cee today. Oh, by the way, you ar banned. pl
I have a good friend who will be retiring from the DO in a few months. He also speaks of the state of degradation of the CIA. We were both present at the beginning of the IOC and watched it grow into what is now a major part of the CIA. He was in the thick of it and knows where most of the skeletons are buried. I would never insult him by asking him to reveal those skeletons to me no matter how bad I want to hear those stories.
As far as the Wikileaks dump of IOC documents, the why is more important than the what. From my cursory review and the review of several other techies, there are no technical bombshells. The exploits classified by the CIA are already out in the wild. The mass of the release does seem to be the handiwork of an inside leak (or recruitment) rather than a technical exploitation.
OMB is quite right. This is getting very serious, but there is nothing in the doc dump that indicates the CIA faked all the Russian hacking. That’s just a dramatic assumption made by someone who does not understand the IOC. Here’s an article by the hactivist known as The Jester which just adds to the drama.
NSA Whistleblower Backs Trump Up on Wiretap Claims https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-03-07/nsa-whistleblower-bill-binney-says-trump-is-absolutely-right-about-wiretap-claims
Binney seemed to go further than the assessment of former Attorney General Michael Mukasey, a George W. Bush administration official, who offered a tacit defense of Trump to ABC on Sunday.
“This is the difference between being correct and right,” Mukasey said. “The president was not correct in saying President Obama ordered a tap on a server in Trump Tower. However, I think he’s right in that there was surveillance and that it was conducted at the behest of the attorney general – at the Justice Department through the FISA court.”
Source for this article is NSA Whistle blower William Binney’s recent interview with Lou Dobbs…
Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said Sunday on CBS that the committee “will get all the information that we need. If that includes President Trump’s tax returns, then I have confidence that we will ask for them.”
Not even his worst political enemies think he is a Russian spy.
But even some of my friends and neighbors who voted for him concur with your description of him as self-serving and sleazy.
Right. Lynch is a fraud, a neoliberal opportunist struggling to maintain control as the Dem leadership feels its authority slipping away. But what she is saying here is borrowed, however fraudulently, from the protest tradition, the idea that in challenging the well-armed powers that be you have to be accept the possibility that you might be killed. The linked piece is willfully ignorant of how this idea has been a commonplace in civil rights movements in this country and others, most notably India. Ghandi said the same thing.
and rapprochement with Russia
I am not sure he ever promised this. I recall he once said: He’ll walk in and either get his deal or doesn’t get it. And if not immediately walk out again. (not verbatim)
I haven’t watched this yet, but got a glimpse yesterday. The statements by the former Daesh/Isis member/recruit were interesting. Things got worse, he claimed once the Chechens appeared on the scene. Foreign fighters in prison, someone who claimed that he initially was pleased to be put in charge of a prison instead of fighting but he claims it turned out worse. A group of Moroccans shot. Big fear of informers/spies ‘inside Isis’. To the extend I grasped matters they are in Southern Turkey trying to get out others.
ISIS deserters speak. Here the French version:
And then, there is this from Trump, I am sure the Russians will read:
Donald J. TrumpVerified Account @realDonaldTrump
For eight years Russia “ran over” President Obama, got stronger and stronger, picked-off Crimea and added missiles. Weak! @foxandfriends
Pat, although I am way beyond my more protective earlier selves around here, I am still unable to differentiate between ‘troll’ and ‘innocent soul’ assuming way too fast to read your intentions.
Besides, slightly narcissist, I admit, people that guess they know me or my intention are among the ones I hate most. Not when they are right, but when they are way, way off.
“trying to invoke the sacrifices made during the Civil Rights movement”
Those obstacles were swept away long ago. Lynch and company are busy trying to retain power by discrediting the constitutionally elected government. Here’s a quote from my newly elected state representative (Michigan):
“I listened to the SOTU today… I have to say that was the most terrifying speech that I have ever heard. I’ve never been more scared about the future of our nation. The president was actually able to articulate his neo-fascist agenda in coherent and targeted words. Disguising hate with code words and pitting America against its best interests. It was not unifying, it was not presidential, it was scary. We now know that this is definitely not a joke or a charade, this is real folks.”
I do not think this representative in the MI house actually has a list (“Disguising hate with code words”), he just labels a person when need arises so as to discredit anyone whose political views do not fall in line with the his own. He’ll continue to do so from the safety of a D+15 house district where he’ll have 6 years in the House, then he’ll be another term limited lifetime politician in search of a job.