Large domestic disturbances, the U.S. Military, and the Insurrection Act


By Robert Willmann

When a dramatic event happens that receives widespread attention, public reaction can escalate into violence and rioting, which can also be initiated and pushed along by agents provocateurs, and used by opportunists to loot and gratuitously damage property.  With over 35 million Americans unemployed after being thrown out of work for about two and a half months and millions with their activity restricted by bad governmental policies about the SARS-Cov-2 virus, an environment for enhanced trouble now exists.  If the rioting that started in Minnesota and moved to other cities does not taper off or end, the issue of involvement by the U.S. Military in the execution of civilian laws can be raised.

There are three main federal laws about the military that could be looked at regarding the disturbances in the streets after the incident of obvious police misconduct which caused the death of a handcuffed man in Minneapolis, Minnesota this past week.  They are the Posse Comitatus Act, the Insurrection Act, and Military Support for Civilian Law Enforcement Agencies.

The Posse Comitatus Act makes it a federal felony to use the Army or Air Force to execute civilian laws, except as specifically authorized (Does this mean the Navy can do whatever it wants?!  Well, no, because Department of Defense regulations on the issue apply to all personnel.) [1]–

"Section 1385. Use of Army and Air Force as posse comitatus

Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."

An exception created by Congress is the Insurrrection Act [2].  It has only five short sections, the last one of which makes it apply to Guam and the Virgin Islands.  Of the three operative sections, one may become applicable–

"Section 251.  Federal aid for State governments

Whenever there is an insurrection in any State against its government, the President may, upon the request of its legislature or of its governor if the legislature cannot be convened, call into Federal service such of the militia of the other States, in the number requested by that State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to suppress the insurrection."

There are two conditions that must be met first.  The legislature of the State has to ask the president to help, or the governor can ask if the legislature cannot meet, as section 251 says.  Then, the president has to make a proclamation that the insurgents disperse within a limited time–

"Section 254.  Proclamation to disperse

Whenever the President considers it necessary to use the militia or the armed forces under this chapter, he shall, by proclamation, immediately order the insurgents to disperse and retire peaceably to their abodes within a limited time."

The law allowing military support for civilian law enforcement agencies under Title 10, U.S. Code, Chapter 15, would not seem to apply to this situation, since it deals with military equipment and facilities being used by civilian law enforcement, and training for their use, which would probably take a lot of time to set up.   Military personnel are restricted in what they can do, and there cannot be "direct participation by a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps in a search, seizure, arrest, or other similar activity unless participation in such activity by such member is otherwise authorized by law" [3].

Thus, the focus in the present situation should be on the Insurrection Act.  An example of its use occurred from around 1957-1968, when it was invoked in tense situations during the civil rights movement.  When the Hurricane Katrina disaster hit New Orleans in 2005, an issue arose about whether it could be used in that situation. 

When the adrenaline rush in those participating in a riot subsides, keeping the riot going becomes more difficult.  It may be that the question of military involvement will not have to be faced.  What will have to be faced are the economic and social problems that still exist which were created by bad federal, state, and local policies about a virus.  Furthermore, an investigation of agents provocateurs agitating for rioting beyond public protests is needed and will be done.

For example, this video is said to have been made near the police substation in Minneapolis, with a white man calmly breaking windows at an Auto Zone store while carrying an umbrella for concealment from cameras and drones.  It is not clear if the windows on the right front side of the building were already broken, and whether the incident was before any looting of the store–

Earlier today, president Trump announced that the federal government will designate the "Antifa" as a "terrorist organization".  Attorney General William Barr made a similar statement today:  "The violence instigated and carried out by Antifa and other similar groups in connection with the rioting is domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly" [4].  These statements will create a linguistic can of worms when there are more than enough state and federal criminal laws to deal with this bad conduct, which is another subject.

UPDATE, Monday, June 1:  In the Insurrection Act, the other two operative sections, 252 and 253, do not require a request from a State legislature or governor.  But section 252 applies only when the situation makes it "impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings", which is not the case here.  Section 253 starts out with promising wording: "… to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy, if it …."  But subsection '1' limits the scope to "[when] any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law …."  And subsection '2' is limited to impairing the execution of the laws of the United States.  Section 253 was clearly designed to apply to violations of civil rights laws. Both sections can be read in the citation and link to the Insurrection Act below.  Presidents Eisenhower and Kennedy used sections 252 and 253 (formerly sections 332 and 333) to carry out federal court orders concerning the rights of Black people in the civil rights movement.


[1]  Title 18, U.S. Code, section 1385.  Use of the Army and Air Force as posse comitatus.

[2]  Title 10, U.S. Code, Chapter 13.  Insurrection.

[3]  Title 10, U.S. Code, Chapter 15.  Military Support for Civilian Law Enforcement Agencies.



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42 Responses to Large domestic disturbances, the U.S. Military, and the Insurrection Act

  1. Deap says:

    …”obvious police misconduct” ….
    …”caused the death of a handcuffed man” …….
    Did you also suspend due process? Sorry, but you blew your credibility for anything that follows.

  2. TV says:

    “These statements will create a linguistic can of worms when there are more than enough state and federal criminal laws to deal with this bad conduct, which is another subject.”
    Except when the local authorities(ie. NYC, Oregon, Minneapolis) are in sympathy with these terrorists and won’t take action.

  3. scott s. says:

    The insurrection act (2 Stat 443) is a very old (1807) law which Lincoln used in 1861 to justify the call for 90 day volunteers. At the time Congress was not in session (the Senate met for a few days for their executive calendar after the term began in March to confirm cabinet officers, then recessed.) The regular session of Congress in those days didn’t convene until December, and in some cases there weren’t elected representatives for the 1861-1862 Congress in April. So Lincoln did some things by proclamation that may not have been entirely legal, but a special session of Congress met on 4 Jul 1861 and pretty much rubber-stamped what Lincoln had done. Of course by that time all the southern state Senators and representatives had resigned (excepting the “restored state of Virginia” aka West Virginia). A special election was required in Maryland for Congress (normal federal elections co-incided with state elections that by MD constitution were in October) and that began the involvement of federal authorities in the affairs of Maryland, including military presence in particular on the eastern shore. After Baltimore revolted Butler established his HQ in Annapolis and pretty much since then ‘Nap town was an armed camp.

  4. J says:

    Compounding the problem are the estimated 54 million Americans who could go hungry

  5. guidoamm says:

    A bit of a tangential question to the forum.
    Does anyone here remember a US Army brigade that had been sent home from Iraq to train for civilian operations ca2008?
    There may have been an article in the Army Times at the time although I am unable to locate it now.

  6. turcopolier says:

    Ward Broom
    You are with “Three Rants?” If this document could be authenticated it would be very useful. I have doubts. What I think I know about antifa+ is that it is a loosely networked movement that is being supplied and financed by people in Hollywood, silicon valley and Soros’ deep pockets. It may as well be connected somehow to AVAAZ. This document implies a tightly disciplined and trained hierarchical organization that issues detailed instructions of this kind and that seeks to insert itself into street mobs to guide them toward destruction of commerce, the economy and government. Any insight into the bonafides of the document.

  7. Eric Newhill says:

    A problem that is a barrier to effectively dealing with the insurrection is that the media and politicians are tripping over themselves by continuing to associate this phenomena with Floyd’s death. The media and politicians are falling directly into the trap that the insurgents set for them. By doing so they bring up the question of the 1st amendment and social justice.
    IMO, they need to dissociate Floyd from the insurrection. make it clear that the insurrection has nothing to do with Floyd. How? Just a grow a pair and say it. Anyone offended by that wasn’t going to vote republican – and probably not mainstream democrat – anyhow.

  8. John from Michigan says:

    @ Eric
    The media and politicians are not falling into a trap set for them. They are directly complicit in promoting the agenda, including race hustlers like Obama, among others.

  9. Keith Harbaugh says:

    Concerning the legal aspects of this situation,
    IANAL but this, by Andrew McCarthy, seems a really excellent analysis of those aspects:

  10. akaPatience says:

    Re: the “dropped leaflet” outlining anarchists’ rules that’s circulating the Internet:
    I don’t know if it’s true but I’ve read elsewhere that this leaflet is from the “Hands Up Don’t Shoot” days of the 2014 Ferguson MO and subsequent riots, and that other pages of the directives discussed specific plans for the mayhem that ensued in Baltimore MD.

  11. blue peacock says:

    This is not an insurrection IMO.
    During the day there have been legitimate peaceful protests. But…during the night there are roving gangs of troublemakers and anarchists. They just want to cause mayhem, vandalize and loot stores. They should be arrested and charged. There is no political message from these thugs.

  12. Deap says:

    The following just showed up on our very local community blog in a small town in California — do you think some sinister networking agency is trying to stir up trouble “under the color of law” spreading this message around?
    Are they really saying …”go ahead red neck Trump supporters, shoot to kill” (Ha, ha, ha, that is our real goal)
    This message seems very similar to the leading message of this thread – now reaching down into the nation’s capillary communications system:
    In cities where anarchy and lawlessness are overshadowing the peaceable right to assemble and protest, the ‘Insurrection Act’ of 1807 as amended in 2006 should be invoked and used against the violent protesters….
    Caveat. NB: It did not smell right from the very first paragraph.

  13. Eric Newhill says:

    I have to disagree. Now it’s starting up in London. Rioters are saying things like, “The west is falling. Burn that shit down!”.
    This has nothing to do with Floyd. It is a trap to think it does. It keeps you from seeing the big picture.

  14. Eric Newhill says:

    Legitimate protests against what?
    The same PD shot and killed a white woman in her nightgown after she called 911. Where the protests there? The justice system took its time, investigated, eventually arrested and convicted the bad cop.
    Why couldn’t that have happened this time around?
    John from Michigan (above) is correct. This is a revolution and some politicians and media are a part of it. Have you not been paying attention the past 6 or 7 years?

  15. Sam Iam says:

    Col. Lang,
    Do you have any insights or comments on Susan Rice’s claim that looters are the result of Russian (or other foreign powers) trying to stir up trouble?
    To me it sounds like all these Obama hacks can’t let RUSSIAGATE go and continue to promote this con to ruin any chance of rapprochement in the near to medium future.
    on a side note, are these protesters not aware of Covid still being a thing that theoretically can spread by close proximity demonstrations. Its amazing how not even a week ago, Covid was the biggest threat to public safety. Now its police brutality.
    I hope you keeping safe.

  16. Ward Broom says:

    Col. Lang,
    I am not affiliated with “Thee Rant”
    It is an unofficial website of current and former NYPD.
    I browsed that website to “listen to the grapevine”.
    I cannot evaluate it. It did not fall from the sky – that is too say, if genuine, it was “built up” over years of experience.
    If it is a fake, it could be a re-purposed official document.
    I posted it here so that it would not get “lost”.
    Please archive that picture.
    Thank you,

  17. Fred says:

    The message sent is that small businesses and American capitalism must go. The extended lockdown orders issued by Democratic governors created millions of unemployed and millions impoverished and dependant upon Government run by the same party. Numerous Christian charities were neither welcomed nor allowed to operate effectively. America’s burning of businesses, especially small stores, destroys the possibility of early reopening and gainful employment in those areas. We’re all in this together comrades.

  18. Ted Buila says:

    Question, if “we” (Trump) is serious about using the IA/US Military “to dominate” BLM protests, is a Tiananmen Square West hurricane in the wind?

  19. Artemesia says:

    Wisconsin Ave. is a major artery from NW DC into Chevy Chase then Bethesda then Rockville, MD. Early this afternoon, along two entire blocks of the upscale shopping district in Chevy Chase, workmen were boarding up windows on major as well as smaller shops — one end of block to the other.
    A very small bit of graffiti was noticed, but it seems property owners anticipate trouble.
    I wonder who owns those buildings.
    This is encroaching on very high income neighborhoods, and also approaching NIH and Bethesda Naval Hospital.

  20. turcopolier says:

    Ted Buila
    Trump is attempting to force the governors to take action so that he does not provide Biden an opportunity to accuse him of massacring the black folks

  21. Fred says:

    Those areas are also democratic party stronghold. Looting Baltimore didn’t seem to phase them and they won’t mind this. They might mind having to re-locate if Trump gets off his ass and moves a few federal agencies to places that need the jobs, say Iowa or Mississippi.

  22. Deap says:

    Recent methanthetamine use and Fentynal intoxication – toxicology tests on George Floyd – death from aphyxia – loss of oxygen to the brain:
    Overdose – Fentanyl (street drug or physician RX?)
    “Profoundly slowed heart beat.
    Very low blood pressure.
    Dangerously slowed or stopped breathing.
    Bluish tint to nails and lips.
    The effects that a fentanyl overdose have on the user’s heart rate and breathing present the biggest risk of death or permanent damage. Even if a user survives a fentanyl overdose, these side effects may leave a lasting mark on the user’s body if not treated immediately.
    For example, respiratory depression can lead to hypoxia, which can cause permanent brain damage in the suffering individual”
    Looks like an upper and downer cocktail in his system at the time of his death – some self-inflicted, some exacerbated by his own actions. Was this a suicide by cop set-up when he resisted arrest?

  23. J says:

    Karen Morrison lived through the Ferguson Riots and it scared the beejeez out of her and her family.
    Here are her words of advice to those who are living near a riot location.
    1.) Pack your bug out bag.
    2.) Know where you are going to go.
    3.) Decide what event during the riots will trigger your departure.
    4.) Use Twitter.
    5.) Please, please understand that “Normalcy Bias” can get you killed.
    6.) Help prepare your kids for what’s going on.
    7.) Take a video of you walking through your house and record EVERYTHING in it.
    8.) Realize that you’re going to mourn. It’s normal, and it’s okay.
    9.) Unfortunately, this is probably going to continue for a long time.
    10.) Take time to get your car ready now.
    Thanks to Daisy Luther AKA The Organic Prepper for posting Mrs. Morrison’s recommendations.

  24. Terence Gore says:
    last week you were a major criminal if you didn’t social distance.
    This week protest at oakland tech

  25. turcopolier says:

    This meshes with my “diagnosis” of carotid artery closure. Floyd’s circulation was already impaired.

  26. steve says:

    “Was this a suicide by cop set-up when he resisted arrest? ”
    Not from Fentanyl. I have given fentanyl to pts almost daily for 35 years as part of my practice. If this were a true fentanyl overdose Mr Floyd wouldn’t not have been walking around as shown in the early part of the video. It has a pretty quick onset and offset. Peak effects, especially the respiratory depression, occur early.
    You generally only see a very slow heart rate with doses large enough to induce general anesthesia. Even at those high doses you dont generally see low blood pressure unless the pt is severely volume depleted. (Think blood loss.) Anyone with a dose of fentanyl high enough to cause those problems would not be awake.
    That said, one could still walk around with a moderate baseline decrease in their oxygen sats so that asphyxia could occur a bit sooner, maybe a minute or two. Maybe. The meth would leave one more susceptible to arrhythmias. While asphyxia refers to lack of oxygen, he would also likely have some increase in CO2 and the combination of increased CO2, low O2 and meth would make a great environment for a fatal arrhythmia.

  27. blue peacock says:

    My swag is this fizzles out soon – 2-3 weeks. There’s no support for these “revolutionaries” among the “masses”. I can’t recall a quote by Mao to that effect.
    These folks are just wannabe revolutionaries. None are willing to die for their cause whatever that may be. They’re just spoiled, entitled kids acting out their nihilistic fantasies, IMO. They can easily be identified and arrested.

  28. turcopolier says:

    blue peacok
    That is too bad. They should be allowed to die for their cause.

  29. TonyL says:

    Some reading material for commenters who want to want to sow doubts on the cause of George Floyd death. Past drug use, ill health,.. don’t matter much. A healthy person would not survive a knee on the neck for too long.
    “Generally speaking, injuries begin at the one-minute mark, steadily worsening thereafter:
    Between 30-180 seconds of oxygen deprivation, you may lose consciousness.
    At the one-minute mark, brain cells begin dying.
    At three minutes, neurons suffer more extensive damage, and lasting brain damage becomes more likely.
    At five minutes, death becomes imminent.
    At 10 minutes, even if the brain remains alive, a coma and lasting brain damage are almost inevitable.
    At 15 minutes, survival becomes nearly impossible.”
    Comment from a retired police captain.
    “Jon Shane, a retired Newark police captain, told BuzzFeed News his department had never used this type of knee-to-neck restraint during his time there between 1989 and 2005.
    “I can’t see any justification for this,” Shane, who is now a professor at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, told BuzzFeed News. “When you’re going after somebody’s neck, it has to be in response to a deadly force situation. I can’t see anything in the video that warrants deadly force.””

  30. Tidewater says:

    I have a question. What if George Floyd did not know that he was ingesting fentanyl? And what if he did not have much tolerance for opiods because he didn’t use them? What would be the effect of using cocaine or chrystal meth that has been laced with fentanyl? Or, if not deliberately laced, then accidentally contaminated? I have read that nowadays even stimulants can be contaminated, and the user is completely unaware.
    On September 28, 2019, there was a report in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune by Emma Nelson: “Six people in St. Paul were hospitalized after suspected drug overdoses early Saturday, according to St. Paul police.
    “Three separate incidents unfolded over less than three hours, according to police Sgt. Mike Ernster. There were no reported fatalities, he said.
    “Shortly before 4 a.m. three adults were found unconscious on a front porch…’ And two other persons were seen unconscious in a car, the windows were broken… ” All five were transported to Regions Hospital”. Later a sixth “found in the street” on Blair Avenue was taken to HCMC in Minneapolis…
    “According to police, some of the people told members of the department’s Community Outreach and Stabilization Unit that they used what they believed was cocaine. They may have used narcotics that were mixed with a hazardous substance, such as fentanyl, according to the department.
    “Fentanyl is a synthetic opiod that is used to treat patients with chronic pain. It can be up to 100 times more potent than morphine. Because it is so potent, fentanyl in its illicit form is sometimes mixed with heroin, cocaine and meth, according to the National Institute of Drug Abuse.”
    What I surmise in these cases, is that the victims were found in time, taken to a hospital and given naloxone, or a similar antidote.
    What I have read is that mixing of fentanyl with cocaine or speed makes it a superior product, and can be cheaply done. What the user is getting is something like what used to be called a ‘speed ball.’ There has been a serious increase in deaths from this kind of drug overdose all across the US in the last three years.
    Using cocaine or crystal meth is now like playing Russian roulette.
    Could George Floyd’s behavior, from the point that he was taken from the Mercedes, show any signs that he was going into the kind of overdose that would be caused by fentanyl additive or contamination? He would not have been taking fentanyl directly then, as in a medical procedure. He wouldn’t have even known.

  31. Eric Newhill says:

    I agree with you that the active rioting can’t go on more than 2-3 weeks. However, the movement and it’s thinking won’t dissipate. It will remain right there under the surface and will re-emerge at first excuse.
    I also agree with you that people in the movement aren’t willing to die for their cause. They aren’t going to seize and hold ground either, obviously. They aren’t like ISIS or Castro’s rebels. That said, they don’t have to be because they’re playing a longer game. Their game is a steady erosion of American values and civic systems and to have their demands incrementally fullfilled.
    After watching a lot of the action from last night and from the previous nights I have come to the conclusion that maybe we are placing too much emphasis on the Antifa elements. Most of the real violence and a large proportion of the looting across the country is being done by African Americans; many of whom appear to be opportunistic thugs. Ghetto culture is a real factor in this. The thugs appear to be inspired to get busy by Black Lives Matter. Washington DC, The Pacific NW cities and NYC appear to be exceptions where Antifa is the predominant force on the street. Is BLM connected to Antifa? Probably there’s an alliance at the higher levels. It’s an alignment of the kinetic forces of chaos and anti-western civilization. Meanwhile, there are teams of political operatives, like AOC and several other democrats in congress and there is a psyops corps working in the college/university system. Finally there is the social media cadre that controls the flow of information. This is a passive aggressive revolution that impacts most all areas of our lives and only occasionally goes small scale full aggressive in the streets.
    The kinetic operations in the streets have thankfully been pretty minor and amateurish in terms of damage and death. I think that is by design. If large car bombs started going off and some other types of attacks that I can easily imagine feasibly deploying, then the wannabes would get scared and drop out of the ranks and the general public would demand that the groups be killed or arrested and sent to GITMO.

  32. Eric Newhill says:

    A follow-up to my first response to you. I work in the corporate world. I’m in a leadership roll, meaning I have staff that report to me. A couple members of the team are young, in their 20s. I had a convo with my boss yesterday morning (Monday). We were commiserating over the state of country. First impeachment, then coronavirus and now riots. He was saying that it was hard for him to focus on work and I told him I was feeling the same. We were wondering how to broach the topic with staff. It would be inhuman to just carry on as if nothing is happening and yet there are all kinds of sensitivities and other issues that we need to be mindful of if we do bring up the topic.
    So I did bring it up with one of the younger female staff that is located in an impacted city. I was very surprised to hear her tell me proudly that most of her best friends went out to lead the protest in her part of the city. I was caught off guard by her absolute bold confidence in the injustice of America and the need for the protests and the downplaying of the violence as just a few bad apples.
    There are many young people, IMO, who are totally brainwashed having been through the K-12 and college systems + social media ops. These people completely agree with the BLM message and Antifa’s ostensible raison d’etre. Nothing is going to fizzle out. The riots just push the boundaries of what is considered normal farther and farther each time they happen.

  33. Fred says:

    If you were caught off guard then you should go down and see what the attitude is in your HR departments as they are the Talent Acquisition gatekeepers.

  34. Babak Makkinejad says:

    The young woman in question, say 25, at least has her heart in the right place: against Injustice and for Fair Play.
    She was likely born in 1995, when the generation of her parents and her grand-parents were busy shipping jobs and the attendant wealth to such places as Korea, Japan, China, Mexico, and India.
    She has a lot of reasons to be angry with those generations who have left her and her generation with diminished opportunities and with public squalor and private splendor, largely the former, in fact.

  35. Fred says:

    Thank you for your response. “against Injustice and for Fair Play” Just like you and I. Her parents were members of the House of Representatives, senior executives at a manufacturing company? Consulting perhaps, telling the aformentioned outsourcing is our strength? That would hardly give her a life of squalor. But, assuming for arguments sake, that you mean her family was middle class or below economically, she would have had available not 1 or 2 or 3 but twelve years of publicly funded education, publicly provided transportation too if she lived more than 1 mile from the school building. I know, That’s outrageous! The American people fund, with their own tax dollars, free education for 12 consecutive years! The Horror, The Horror!
    During those early years at home, from 1995, she would have been regained by her parents with stories of what? America defeating communism, Germany unified, Nuclear Annihilation avoided and Western Civilization peacefully triumphant? Of Bill Clinton, impeachment, the “people’s Princess” Lady Dianna.
    At age six, on a Tuesday in September she would have returned from school, probably early, and seen ongoing broadcasts of events in NYC starting at 8:45 am. She would have seen that 3,000 Americans killed and 25,000 injured in NYC, at the Pentagon and on Flight 93. She would have known that firefighters and yes, the Poilice! were heroic in their conduct and respected and prasied.
    During those years of budding maturity who was representing Michigan in Congress? Dingell, husband of Debbie, now in the same office; Dale Kildee, father of Dan (now in the same office), Sander Levin, father of Andy (now in the same office) and brother of Senator Carl Levin. Yes, she would have had consistent political representation – remind me which political party they are members of, it kind of escapes me, ah – we’ll get back to that.
    What were the teachers doing, besides asking for raises, equipment, new buildings, new electronics, money, more money and more staff? Well, maybe they were teaching – critical thinking, civics, white privilege! Because they weren’t as enlightened wayyyyyyy back in 2008. I bet they even kept gays in the closet and believed rainbow’s were God’s promise not a political symbol. And a church was not something to get closed down by a politician’s order, only tyrants did that then, a governor of an American state, especially Michigan, would never do that.
    They had an election way back in 2008 guess which two people were running for that primary? Perhaps Our Mythical Woman would have seen it all; had she, or mommy and daddy, been paying attention to reality, though being 13 she was probably not watching reality, but reality TV, staring -cough, cough – Donald J. Trump. “you’re fired”. Popular words not used with those politicians though that guy in the oval office now sure likes to use them.
    Were she of average performance academically in just a couple more years, mid-way through the racial healing years of Hope & Change she would have been courted by not 1 or 2 or 3 but dozens of colleges and universities and would have been invited to join not one but every single branch of the armed forces of the Republic – which would have given her training, health care, free housing, tens of thousands of dollars in GI Bill benefits, a Commander in Chief who America just loved, loved, just don’t at the actual approval ratings at the time thank you very much.
    I’m sure her parents, when she was 18 – year 5 of Hope and Change can you believe Barack still hasn’t gotten us out of Afghanistan or Iraq and what’s this about color revolutions – would have given her good advice. In just Four More Years of that Hope and Change you can believe in our woman of myth would have gotten that degree in STEM! SCIENCE! -Insert highly lucrative hugely in demand career training here- diploma showing the world here capabilities to hit the ground running, excel, solve problems, well, some damn thing that would enable her to FIGHT INJUSTICE; the fighting of which would involve plenty of FAIR PLAY too, I’m sure.
    No “Resistance” to the peaceful transfer of power after an election, not for a well educated woman of quality, why she were edumacated in the best schools in ‘Merica, home of the free – some restrictions apply thank you comrade President Xi, Governor Cuomo, Walz, Whitmer, Newsome – generic lefty what’s his/her/xer’s name here. For Atheism’s sake don’t get a haircut, it might kill you! Thanks Gretchen.
    Our American Girl, not a doll like Pinocchio or that other kind girls play with, would believe in her heart Spying on Americans NEVER – Snowden! Bradley Opps he’s a girl now Manning ? Just prove we must protect Americans from government spying! Russia DID IT! Thanks FBI DOJ you are heroes oh my Trayvon, Michael, Eric, Justine Diamond who’s she nothing to see here – George Floyd! Burn it down! Hey, look, free tv’s at Target, burn it down, BLM, Defund the Police!
    DId I miss anything, other than what cause and politicians were Harvey Weinstein supporting politically with millions of dollars as cover for his perversion, who was Jeffery Epstein blackmailing or enabling before he did not commit suicide and which countries is the OMB trying to get the US the hell out of and which one is he putting first and just who on earth has any interest in opposing all of that and would gladly see the US self destruct rather than lose wealth, power or access too it, other than elected democrats who illegally spied on their political opponents, the guilty co-conspirators in the FBI – DOJ – CIA – State Department – Military Intelligence, China, most of the elite leadership and professoriate at US universities, lawyers, immigrant and refugee related businesses, drug cartels, lobbyists, consultants, anarchists and assorted anti-American ideologues.
    Yes, our poor 25 year old girl is definitely a victim. Life is hard, it is harder when you are stupid.
    The poor bastard from Minneapolis was killed by Fentynol, obesity, heart disease and police misconduct in a city run by the same party as all those Michigan Congressman and State Governors I named. If little Miss Do Gooder is too stupid to follow Barack’s advice from a couple of days ago and recognize that she has to vote those corrupt and oppressive democrats out of office to affect change then she is going to deserve a lifetime of Democratic-Socialist Injustice good and hard.
    All that burning and looting is just tuition in the course of political corruption and oppression found in the Democraticly led cities, see Detroit ’68 – present, Baltimore as called out by the OMB and NYC thank you Mayor de Blasio. I hope she doesn’t have to repeat the course.

  36. Eric Newhill says:

    She’s 28. Both her parents are white collar professionals. Based on what I know about the parents, she grew up in a household making $200K + a year. She makes $90K + a performance bonus, so around $100K/yr. Her husband is reasonably well employed also.
    Oh the suffering she must be experiencing!

  37. Eric Newhill says:

    “The poor bastard from Minneapolis was killed by Fentynol, obesity, heart disease and police misconduct in a city run by the same party as all those Michigan Congressman and State Governors I named”
    He also had contracted the covid virus according to the autopsy reports I’ve read. I know covid was so long ago that it’s hard to recall much about it, but I think it caused respiratory distress. I think the defense team is going to have a field day with this case. Unless of course the defendants are railroaded for political reasons. Would that be injustice too. Feeling confused. I need righteous champions of the oppressed people, like Babak, to tell me how to think about this.

  38. Babak Makkinejad says:

    You did not address yourself to the responsibility of the previous generations.
    If I understand you correctly, you are channeling John Adams:
    “A boy of 15 who is not a democrat is good for nothing, and he is no better who is a democrat at 20.”
    In my opinion, both Democrats ad Republican shipped jobs outside of the United States to feed the Dragon.
    In fact, for 20 years or more, US government agencies were directed in helping Chinese government agencies becoming more organized. Under both Republican and Democratic administrations.
    Both parties have pursued the defeat and destruction of the enemies of Israel in the Middle East in the last 20 years at great costs to the United States.
    And now you and Eric Newhill have found religion and the culprit – “The Democrats” or the “Liberals” or the “Globalists”.
    And you are picking on a pretty little thing to boot.

  39. Fred says:

    No, you don’t understand me at all
    “In my opinion, both Democrats ad Republican shipped jobs outside of the United States” yes, I agree they both did. Neither party resembles the ones the signer of the Alien and Sedition Acts nor even their party’s of the 1950s. “you are picking on a pretty little thing to boot” You are picking nits.

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