“Putin Sabotaged Pipelines to Escalate Crisis, Top Intel Expert to Newsmax”

John Jordan?

“This is what they’re trying to do: raise the temperature, increase the fear level in Europe — both in terms of escalation in the nuclear domain — as well as threaten widening the war into the Baltic and threatening to undermine or negate Europe’s efforts to mitigate the loss of Russian natural gas,” Jordan said on Newsmax’s “John Bachman Now.”

“Because they can’t win on the battlefield, they have to win in these other spheres; and that’s what they’re trying to do.”

Fox News host Tucker Carlson on Tuesday suggested that President Joe Biden was responsible for damage to the gas pipelines, claiming he vowed to “blow up” the pipelines earlier this year.

Despite Carlson’s claim, Biden never said he would “blow up” the pipelines, but warned that the Nordstream2 pipeline would be “stopped” if Russia invaded Ukraine. Nordstream2 had not been completed and had been opposed by the Trump administration.

“If you are Vladimir Putin, you would have to be a suicidal moron to blow up your own energy pipeline. That’s one thing you would never do,” Carlson said.

“Natural gas pipelines are the main source of your power and wealth — and, most critically, your leverage over other countries.

“Blowing up Nord Stream doe help Vladimir Putin,” he added. “He would not do that. Why would he? But that doesn’t mean that other countries wouldn’t consider doing it. They would consider it, and we know they have considered it because at least one of them has said so in public.”

Jordan slammed the claim as Carlson doing another “shark-jumping exercise,” noting Carlson’s pro-Russia views.”

Comment: Who? What? Who is this guy? I have never heard of him. A “former naval intel analyst” who once had a navy reserve commission? pl

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45 Responses to “Putin Sabotaged Pipelines to Escalate Crisis, Top Intel Expert to Newsmax”

  1. Whitewall says:

    I have seen additional reports of yet another pipeline break this morning. With the world looking on, someone does it again? Maybe Russian built infrastructure works no better than the military once everybody is paid and paid off and promoted?

  2. ed says:

    Diana Johnstone’s article on the attacks/sabotage on both NordStream pipelines quotes some solid German sources. The article is at: https://consortiumnews.com/2022/09/28/diana-johnstone-omerta-in-the-gangster-war/?unapproved=442220&moderation-hash=596718eecaf3904177476904e3fe57a0#comment-442220

  3. Fourth and Long says:

    J J suggests the notorious outlaw Jesse James who robbed the Glendale train with his brother Frank James. But John Jordan suggests the famous lumberjack from Wisconsin about which another famous song was performed. Well – Naval Intelligence. Brilliant. Right after an underwater disaster. The Newsmax guys are imo some of the more clever out there in this Astrophysical Observatory Laugh fest. Don’t forget your Mayo, Pete.

  4. different clue says:

    I just thought of another actor which would benefit from blowing the Nordstreams 1 & 2, and keeping them out of action forever. And who would that be?

    China. If Russia cannot ever again sell any gas to the West, that will leave Russia as a captive seller to China. China would be in a position to name its price to Russia and make Russia like it. And China wouldn’t have to ” do it themselves”. There must be a hundred and one gray-market demolition experts and companies who would do it if China could pay them enough.

    Just another wild and crazy theory.

  5. Eliot says:

    Col. Lang,

    We lie about everything now, we tell ridiculous lies, and we pretend that we’re being honest.

    “Because the regime is captive to its own lies, it must falsify everything. It falsifies the past. It falsifies the present, and it falsifies the future. It falsifies statistics … It pretends to pretend nothing.” – Vaclav Havel

    The country we were born in is gone, this is something different.

    – Eliot

  6. Dolores O´Neil says:

    The Russian technicians from Gazprom have stated that the reparations on the pipelines could last at least six months…

    But, the German government has run to state that the pipelines are inutilized for ever..

    Why a legitimate “German” government would state such a false thing when this would imply the death of German industry and its translation to the US and Asia?

    German industries had survived the two great European wars and even the Hundred Years War…

    There is talk that there are resistance comitees being organized throughout Germany and that that it is the reason why the “German” government is about to unleash the army on the streets of Germany.

    I guess the German resistance will have your support as it has the “resistance” in the Ukraine, since Germany is under occupation too, and in the process of dismantling, obviously…


    • TTG says:

      Dolores O´Neil,

      Germany’s gas reserves are at 95% capacity and Russian gas only accounted for 5% of Germany’s energy imports a few weeks ago. The stated goal was no Russian energy next year. That is not going to lead to the death of German industry. A recession is possible due to high prices, but not industrial death except possibly for the most energy intensive industries. The aluminum industry may relocate to the US because of the prices.

      The idea of resistance committees and the German Army running rampant on the streets sound like nothing more than shithouse rumors to me.

      • MT_Bill says:

        TTG- Could you explain what you think German gas reserves are at 95% means in terms of their ability to keep their economy running?

        My understanding is that total capacity of German gas storage is about 90 days of average usage. Available capacity is about 75% of that because you cannot actually pump the storage dry. Some reports seem to be ignoring the difference. So maybe 80 days of average gas use.

        And not to quibble over small numbers, but Reuters was reporting 91% yesterday.


        My kids have dual citizenship in Germany. I always looked at it as a potential escape valve for them since U.S. politicians seem determined to run this country into the ground. Never thought the Germans would let the US destroy their country in the process.

        • TTG says:


          Germany has stated that their gas reserves are sufficient to get them through this winter. I’m sure that involves conservation measures (and sky high prices). I think they’re still counting on Russian gas flowing through the Ukrainian pipelines. Their stated goal was to be totally free of the need for Russian energy by mid-2024 so I guess they think the Ukrainian pipelines will still be flowing till then.

          I lived in Germany for six years and no one in either of the villages I lived in had gas. It was more like New England where everyone relied on fuel oil for heat along with electricity for appliances. There were a lot of Kachelofen in both villages for additional heat. Some farms had wood fired hot water heaters for showers and baths. I got used to it. SWMBO never did.

          • borko says:


            the common folk especially in villages and farms will adapt quickly.

            city/apartment building dwellers and especially Industrial facilities are a different matter though.

            It will be very challenging but I doubt it will be a catastrophe that many rusophiles, with so much schadenfreude, hope for.

          • Fred says:


            The and a half million Germans in Berlin are not going to keep warm burning wood in non-existent fireplaces with pretty German names this winter. Wood will not be driven to market in electric trucks because the aluminum smelters don’t run on wood, nor do steal mills. Not to worry, Poland has a secure supply of gas so just move your business there.

        • Poul says:

          The 200 billion Euro energy aid-package (ca 5% of German GDP) just announced shows the severity of the situation. Next year could be worse as Russian gas supply has slowly been reduced to 18% of what it was in the beginning of the year.

          A lot of the 95% gas in storage is Russian but next year there will be a massive supply problem.

          Solutions will be to shut down high-energy industries and other savings plus converting gas furnaces to coal or oil. There will be no way around a big reduction in energy usage with the negative effects on the economy. Over the next four years there will be slow improvements, but the biggest challenge is a total change in EU energy policy.

          You cannot replace Russian gas/energy without long-term contracts with American/Qatari suppliers (30 years). As they will have to invest huge sums in new infrastructure and production which is money they want back.
          The EU has their Green Energy plan which will replace fossil fuels so it is at odds with new long-term fossil fuel contracts. The Russian contracts were easy and cheap to not renew.

      • different clue says:

        Gas reserves in storage are like electricity reserves in a battery. You can fill either one up when times are good to drain it down when times are bad.

        But if you empty the gas reserves storage facilities ( in Michigan gas is stored in big caverns), then you have to refill the facilities if you want to be able to empty them again when needed. If no Russian gas is coming to Germany any more, then where will Germany get gas to both use as they get it and also refill the gas storage at the same time?

        They are technologically and scientifically skilled. If they can transition their heavily industrial economy over to no-gas while they still have such an economy, then their achievement will be studied and adapted elsewhere. Can they do it?

        • TTG says:

          different clue,

          European gas reserves are called winter reserves. They are refilled every year to be drained during the high heating season. It’s a normal cycle.

          Russian gas is not the only gas available to Europe. North Sea gas is closer than the Russian fields. LNG from the US will fill a lot of the need. There are other sources. A lot is dependent on whether Europe is willing to move from the spot market to long term contracts. However, I hope Europe learns from the mistake of relying on a single supplier. Trading a reliance on Russia for on on the US is not smart energy policy. They need to diversify and maybe take another look at those small modular reactors.

        • Poul says:

          The answer is no. Some parts yes but not the entire industrial sector.

          Right now, the heating season has started off on the wrong foot for Germany with higher than normal consumption.


          “Die privaten Haushalte und kleineren Gewerbekunden sind in Deutschland für rund 40 Prozent des Gasverbrauchs verantwortlich. Die privaten Verbraucher trugen bisher wenig zum sinkenden Gasverbrauch bei. Das liegt jedoch daran, dass Gas hier vorwiegend zum Heizen verwendet wird. Wie viel Gas tatsächlich eingespart wird, wird sich daher erst in der gerade beginnenden Heizperiode zeigen.

          Die großen Industriekunden benötigen rund 60 Prozent des Gases. Der Verbrauch dieser großen Verbraucher sank im August um 22 Prozent und lag auch in der letzten Woche deutlich unter dem durchschnittlichen Verbrauch der Vorjahre (1170 GWh/Woche gegenüber durchschnittlich 1679 GWh/Woche in den Jahren 2018 bis 2021).”

          “Private households and smaller commercial customers are responsible for around 40 percent of gas consumption in Germany. So far, private consumers have made little contribution to the fall in gas consumption. However, this is because gas is mainly used for heating here. How much gas is actually saved will only become apparent in the heating season that is just beginning.

          The large industrial customers need around 60 percent of the gas. The consumption of these large consumers fell by 22 percent in August and was also in the last week well below the average consumption of previous years (1170 GWh/week compared to an average of 1679 GWh/week in the years 2018 to 2021).”

        • Poul says:

          different clue;

          A potential problem with the German aid packet is that few other EU countries can match it’s size without huge bond market problems. So there may be a “beggar-thy-neighbour” issue with the German package.


          Fx. Italy is heavily in indebted and their government bond rates are only low because of ECB purchases so they can most likely not support their industry in the German manner.

  7. Vince T says:

    Nord Stream 2 was completed in September 2021, but has not yet entered service. The construction was completed but the commissioning and certification were halted in Feb. of 2022. GazProm is a 51% stakeholder in NS1 & NS2. NS2 financing on the Russian side is somewhere north of $10B, NS1 financing was somewhere north of $7B. Evidently you have to be an Ivy League educated superior intellect to believe the Russians, who could just shut down the compressor stations effectively cutting the gas supply to Germany, would instead elect to destroy their investment to do what exactly? All that steel exposed to seawater will have to be replaced, you can’t just patch it up. These Intel people the U.S. employ think we ‘deplorables’ are just idiots.

  8. Fred says:

    Zelinsky has more incentive to do that than the Russians.

    • Jake says:

      Zelinsky doesn’t have the means, or the opportunity, and other things to worry about. The Baltic Sea is stuffed with gadgets to monitor ships and Russian subs in particular. Especially around Bornholm. The recently finished Baltops exercise was meant to underscore the readiness of NATO and provided the perfect cover for this operation. In 2015, right after the 2014 coup in Ukraine, a disabled explosive device was found during a routine inspection, apparently because the perpetrator felt it was premature. Ownership of the delivery device was not established, since many countries used that particular device, or so it was said. Am I wrong to conclude that this excludes Russia, since they are unlikely to use anything but their own devices? And is the connection with events in Ukraine, when Zelenski was still an actor doing comic relief shows, a coincidence? Or do we have to assume this escalation was part of a plan developed way back, as a ‘fall back’ option in case Russia would retaliate to events in Ukraine?

      Since there will be no independent investigation, we’ll be left with unanswered questions, and truckloads of spin, lies, and ‘experts’ telling us what to think. So let’s move on. NS1 and 2 are gone. What’s next?

      • Fred says:


        The Ukrainian government has zero soldiers who can scuba dive to 250 feet. They have zero soldiers who can plant explosives underwater. The entire institutional knowledge of pipelines or other such infrastructure that existed in the sea of Azov while it was in their control hasceased to exist. None can figure out border crossing, boat handling, fake ids, navigation or anything else involved. They are going to defeat the Russians and retake Crimea though.

      • Mark Logan says:


        It may have been a non-state actor. Strident Ukrainian and/or Polish partisans working in Poland. No reason to assume Zelensky had to be involved, and if the perps were smart they wouldn’t have tried to involve him in it. Zelensky could not be expected to sign off on this. A very bad look, should it ever be revealed.

        Just need a fairly normal Polish fishing vessel to drop timed charges close enough. I wouldn’t use divers, would have to stop or do circles right over the pipeline for that, and it’s a fair bet all traffic in the area is recorded on radars.

        • Jake says:


          Slim chance that some non-state actor was responsible. My bet is that it was the US, possibly with the UK, working under the cover of the Baltops exercise, which provided the needed blind eye at the level of the listening posts on the seabed spread all over the place in that area around Bornholm. And that the aborted 2015 attempt was a US operation as well. Which explains why nobody ever found the owner of the stuff they discover back then. And which is why I don’t expect we will be told the truth this time around. Look what happened when Israel almost sank the USS Liberty, aborted only because a Russian spy ship approached the scene. A ‘false flag’ meant to blame Egypt and provide president Johnson with an excuse to embrace Israel, effectively kept under wraps by the ‘usual suspects’. It is far too easy to make people believe things that are obviously not true. I’m with the Ron Paul Institute on this:


  9. VietnamVet says:


    Pray that it is not Russia or the USA who attacked Nord Stream 1 & 2. If one or the other, did it, WWIII has started. No pipeline on either side, anywhere in the world, is safe from attack.

    If it is Russia, they purposefully destroyed billions of dollars of their own energy infrastructure to inflict hardship on Western Europe and shut down, probably permanently, a proven money maker if there is ever peace in Europe. That means the Kremlin knows that WWIII has started and their Nation’s existence is at stake. If this is the case, shortly, they will use tactical nuclear weapons to destroy Ukraine/NATO’s counteroffensive once the four Donbass regions officially join the Russian Federation.

    If it is the USA, it is a mob hit like Diana Johnstone wrote in the comment above. If the White House signed off on the operation, they decided to conduct a major terror attack on France, Germany and the rest of the European States connected to Nord Stream pipelines. This cold dark winter, the manned US bases still operating on continental Europe will likely have to fly in fuel and coal to keep warm like 1948-49. My survival depends on this option not being true.

    A third possibility is that this is an Oligarch funded NGO operation with staff and equipment contracted from sources like Ukraine, Poland, United Kingdom, and/or Corporate Partners; conducted to raise the price of Liquid Natural Gas and to further destabilize the Kremlin and ultimately manage Russia’s undeveloped resources. If this is the case, this has to be proven fast and the participants jailed, an armistice signed, and a DMZ established, before Russian or American ICBMs fly.

    • elkern says:

      Thx – very well stated, though scary. This perspective makes me *really* hope that Russia didn’t blow the pipe; even “limited” nuclear war would be Really Bad.

      • Pat Lang says:

        That doesn’t mean he necessarily wants to go nuclear. He knows how hard it would be to control escalation once it starts.

    • Sam says:


      We should not make the assumption that Putin and his government represents the general will of the Russian people. Just like it would be a false assumption that either Biden or Trump represent the general will of the American people. We are deeply divided among urban/rural lines and other lines and domestic politics plays a huge role in foreign policy like other policy areas. Recall that Trump early on in the invasion considered Putin smart for invading Ukraine.

      We don’t know the under-currents in Russian politics and the different factions jostling. All people know is Putin and his cronies who have been in power for decades. How strong is that power today behind the facade of strength? The Russian military was considered to be on par with the US but their test in real battle with a much smaller Ukrainian military has demonstrated considerable weaknesses. The idea that Putin if pushed to the wall will use nuclear weapons assumes his chain of command is operative. It may not be the case with the actual officers ordered to pull the trigger unwilling to take the world to Armageddon. All geostrategic analysis now must take into account the high uncertainty of domestic politics in Russia.

    • borko says:


      This job looks like something the British would do. Divide and conquer always was their thing, especially when it comes to continental Europe.

  10. Leith says:

    I don’t know Jordan’s background. But I do know that the Navy relies heavily on augmenting their active duty Intelligence Officers with Naval Reservists. They make up one quarter of ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence) staff. Many were former active duty in the intel field. Jack Posobiac comes to mind, he was a Navy Reserve Intel guy also I believe. They typically go active for much more than your typical ‘once-a-month weekend’ and ‘two-weeks-in the summer’ that other reservists do. There is a Full-Time Support contingent with “designated Reservists who perform full-time Active Duty service”, where they may be assigned to shore activities and commands or operational units. While on float with Amphibious Ready Groups, visiting intel briefers were typically Navy Reserve officers that were the area experts in the Med or in WestPac or the IO.

  11. Deap says:

    Newsmax quickly became a no-go news site for me, shortly after it showed up. Something did not click. Who wouldn’t be envious of Tucker Carlson’s winning formula.

  12. Eliot says:


    The water was 50 meters deep. Maybe the Poles did it.

    They hate the Germans.

    – Eliot

    • Fred says:


      It wouldn’t be too difficult. Poland is certainly a possibility as is a private actor as Vietnam Vet suggests. There is an immense amount of money and political power at stake.

  13. Deap says:

    Eco-terrorism cannot be taken off the list, at least until we find out why 98 food production plants in the US have been damaged or destroyed in the past two years of our “new normalcy”:

    Below is the list of America’s 98 plants that have been destroyed, damaged or impacted by “accidental fires,” disease, or general causes.

    (NB: From the net – trust, but verify)
    1/11/21 A fire that destroyed 75,000-square-foot processing plant in Fayetteville
    4/30/21 A fire ignited inside the Smithfield Foods pork processing plant in Monmouth, IL
    7/25/21 Three-alarm fire at Kellogg plant in Memphis, 170 emergency personnel responded to the call
    7/30/21 Firefighters on Friday battled a large fire at Tyson’s River Valley Ingredients plant in Hanceville, Alabama
    8/23/21 Fire crews were called to the Patak Meat Production company on Ewing Road in Austell
    9/13/21 A fire at the JBS beef plant in Grand Island, Neb., on Sunday night forced a halt to slaughter and fabrication lines
    10/13/21 A five-alarm fire ripped through the Darigold butter production plant in Caldwell, ID
    11/15/21 A woman is in custody following a fire at the Garrard County Food Pantry
    11/29/21 A fire broke out around 5:30 p.m. at the Maid-Rite Steak Company meat processing plant
    12/13/21 West Side food processing plant in San Antonio left with smoke damage after a fire
    1/7/22 Damage to a poultry processing plant on Hamilton’s Mountain following an overnight fire
    1/13/22 Firefighters worked for 12 hours to put a fire out at the Cargill-Nutrena plant in Lecompte, LA
    1/31/22 a fertilizer plant with 600 tons of ammonium nitrate inside caught on fire on Cherry Street in Winston-Salem
    2/3/22 A massive fire swept through Wisconsin River Meats in Mauston
    2/3/22 At least 130 cows were killed in a fire at Percy Farm in Stowe
    2/15/22 Bonanza Meat Company goes up in flames in El Paso, Texas
    2/15/22 Nearly a week after the fire destroyed most of the Shearer’s Foods plant in Hermiston
    2/16/22 A fire had broken at US largest soybean processing and biodiesel plant in Claypool, Indiana
    2/18/22 An early morning fire tore through the milk parlor at Bess View Farm
    2/19/22 Three people were injured, and one was hospitalized, after an ammonia leak at Lincoln Premium Poultry in Fremont
    2/22/22 The Shearer’s Foods plant in Hermiston caught fire after a propane boiler exploded
    2/28/22 A smoldering pile of sulfur quickly became a raging chemical fire at Nutrien Ag Solutions
    2/28/22 A man was hurt after a fire broke out at the Shadow Brook Farm and Dutch Girl Creamery
    3/4/22 294,800 chickens destroyed at farm in Stoddard, Missouri
    3/4/22 644,000 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Cecil, Maryland
    3/8/22 243,900 chickens destroyed at egg farm in New Castle, Delaware
    3/10/22 663,400 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Cecil, MD
    3/10/22 915,900 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Taylor, IA
    3/14/22 The blaze at 244 Meadow Drive was discovered shortly after 5 p.m. by farm owner Wayne Hoover
    3/14/22 2,750,700 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Jefferson, Wisconsin
    3/16/22 A fire at a Walmart warehouse distribution center in Plainfield, Indiana has cast a large plume of smoke visible throughout Indianapolis.
    3/16/22 Nestle Food Plant extensively damaged in fire and new production destroyed Jonesboro, Arkansas
    3/17/22 5,347,500 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Buena Vista, Iowa
    3/17/22 147,600 chickens destroyed at farm in Kent, Delaware
    3/18/22 315,400 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Cecil, Maryland
    3/22/22 172,000 Turkeys destroyed on farms in South Dakota
    3/22/22 570,000 chickens destroyed at farm in Butler, Nebraska
    3/24/22 Fire fighters from numerous towns are battling a major fire at the McCrum potato processing facility in Belfast, Maine.
    3/24/22 418,500 chickens destroyed at farm in Butler, Nebraska
    3/25/22 250,300 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Franklin, Iowa
    3/26/22 311,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
    3/27/22 126,300 Turkeys destroyed in South Dakota
    3/28/22 1,460,000 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Guthrie, Iowa
    3/29/22 A massive fire burned 40,000 pounds of food meant to feed people in a food desert near Maricopa
    3/31/22 A structure fire caused significant damage to a large portion of key fresh onion packing facilities in south Texas
    3/31/22 76,400 Turkeys destroyed in Osceola, Iowa
    3/31/22 5,011,700 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Osceola, Iowa
    4/6/22 281,600 chickens destroyed at farm in Wayne, North Carolina
    4/9/22 76,400 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
    4/9/22 208,900 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
    4/12/22 89,700 chickens destroyed at farm in Wayne, North Carolina
    4/12/22 1,746,900 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Dixon, Nebraska
    4/12/22 259,000 chickens destroyed at farm in Minnesota
    4/13/22 Fire destroys East Conway Beef & Pork Meat Market in Conway, New Hampshire
    4/13/22 Plane crashes into Gem State Processing, Idaho potato and food processing plant
    4/13/22 77,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
    4/14/22 Taylor Farms Food Processing plant burns down Salinas, California.
    4/14/22 99,600 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
    4/15/22 1,380,500 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Lancaster, Minnesota
    4/19/22 Azure Standard nation’s premier independent distributor of organic and healthy food, was destroyed by fire in Dufur, Oregon
    4/19/22 339,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
    4/19/22 58,000 chickens destroyed at farm in Montrose, Color
    4/20/22 2,000,000 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Minnesota
    4/21/22 A small plane crashed in the lot of a General Mills plant in Covington, Georgia
    4/22/22 197,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
    4/23/22 200,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
    4/25/22 1,501,200 chickens destroyed at egg farm Cache, Utah
    4/26/22 307,400 chickens destroyed at farm Lancaster Pennsylvania
    4/27/22 2,118,000 chickens destroyed at farm Knox, Nebraska
    4/28/22 Egg-laying facility in Iowa kills 5.3 million chickens, fires 200-plus workers
    4/28/22 Allen Harim Foods processing plant killed nearly 2M chickens in Delaware
    4/2822 110,700 Turkeys destroyed Barron Wisconsin
    4/29/22 5 million honeybees are dead after a flight carrying the pollinator insects from California to Alaska got diverted to Georgia (New)
    4/29/22 1,366,200 chickens destroyed at farm Weld Colorado
    4/30/22 13,800 chickens destroyed at farm Sequoia Oklahoma
    5/3/22 58,000 Turkeys destroyed Barron Wisconsin
    5/3/22 118,900 Turkeys destroyed Beadle S Dakota
    5/3/22 114,000 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
    5/3/22 118,900 Turkeys destroyed Lyon Minnesota
    5/7/22 20,100 Turkeys destroyed Barron Wisconsin
    5/10/22 72,300 chickens destroyed at farm Lancaster Pennsylvania
    5/10/22 61,000 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
    5/10/22 35,100 Turkeys destroyed Muskegon, Michigan
    5/13/22 10,500 Turkeys destroyed Barron Wisconsin
    5/14/22 83,400 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
    5/17/22 79,00 chickens destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
    5/18/22 7,200 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
    5/19/22 Train carrying limestone derailed Jensen Beach FL
    5/21/22 57,000 Turkeys destroyed on farm in Dakota Minnesota
    5/23/22 4,000 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
    5/29/22 A Saturday night fire destroyed a poultry building at Forsman Farms in Howard Lake, Minnesota
    5/31/22 3,000,000 chickens destroyed by fire at Forsman facility in Stockholm Township, Minnesota
    6/2/22 30,000 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
    6/7/22 A fire occurred Tuesday evening at the JBS meat packing plant in Green Bay, Wisconsin
    6/8/22 Firefighters from Tangipahoa Fire District 1 respond to a fire at the Purina Feed Mill in Arcola, Louisiana
    6/9/22 Irrigation water was canceled in California (the #1 producer of food in the US) and storage water flushed directly out to the delta.
    6/12/22 Largest Pork Company in the US Shuts Down California Plant Due to High Costs
    6/13/22 Fire Breaks Out at a Food Processing Plant West of Waupaca County in Wisconsin
    6/14/22 Over 10,000 head of cattle have reportedly died in the recent Kansas heat wave (New)

    • TTG says:


      I doubt you can lay the deaths of all those chickens, turkeys and ducks at the feet of eco-terrorists. That was a wave of avian flu and accounts for the bulk of your list of potential acts of eco-terrorism. Same goes for those 10,000 head of cattle in Kansas. Eco-terrorists don’t control the weather or climate.

      • Deap says:

        They should have tested the “covid” novel vaccine delivery on all those sick chickens, duck and pigs since this was obviously a pandemic and could have had a shorter mortality span to observe this novel experimental therapeutic delivery system.

        Or who knows, maybe they did and they are just not talking about it.

        But ducks and chickens don’t strike matches and cause fires – cull out the sick chickens and you still have a lot of opportunity for eco-freak vegan revenge high performance art.

        In this age of information, it is interesting this incident still reads like an Agatha Christie whodunit. While others are asking where exactly was Col. Mustard on that same late evening and early morning. He certainly was not in the Library with a candlestick.

    • different clue says:

      A lot of your entries are for ” chickens and turkeys destroyed”. There has been an avian flu epidemic going around and when avian flu is discovered in a high density confinement flock or battery of poultry, they are all killed. The polite word is either “euthanised” or “destroyed”. So I wonder how many of those chickens and turkeys destroyed incidents are due to avian flu.

      • TTG says:

        different clue,

        I reckon that damned near every one of those poor birds were put to death in horrible ways out of our fear of avian influenza. I worked for Mr. Schweitzer on the Roaring Brook Poultry Farm. He wouldn’t have stood for that shit.

  14. elkern says:

    Only prior ref I see via Goog for this “top intel expert” is a panel appearance on Hannity in 2019, talking about Iran. In Wiki, he’s “John Jordan (vintner)”, which explains the picture at top of OP. “Intel Expert” is his hobby, not his day job.

    BA Econ, 1995, JD + MBA 2002. Practiced law for a couple years but dropped that to take over family’s Winery in 2005. Philanthropist (“John Jordan Foundation” – humility might not be his strong suit). Big GOP Donor. Hoover Institute Board since 2010. Stopped direct candidate donations in 2016 (maybe anti-Trump?). “Since 2017, Jordan has been a regular guest analyst on international television networks, providing commentary on a variety of topics, such as economics, national security and aviation.”

    Pilot’s license at age 17, 9,000+ hours since, has Flight Instructor Cert. Joined Navy Reserves in 2000, rose to Commander (presumably as Pilot?).

    So, rich guy, no sign of Active Duty, Overseas Service, or any professional experience in Foreign Policy. Maybe he’s James Bond, jet-setting around the world, killing Bad Guys? Nah.

    More to the point, his contention that Russia blasted its own pipeline to “raise the temperature, increase the fear level in Europe” is BS, but it’s BS that lotsa people in MSM & US Gov’t want [us] to hear. Russia would have plenty of ways to do that (increase fear) without destroying their biggest Carrot in [inevitable eventual] negotiations with NATO over Ukraine.

    Whoever blew that pipe wants to weaken Russia, not strengthen it.

    Polish FM Sikorski’s tweet thanking the USA is pretty damning. It seems dangerously stupid, too, unless it’s part of some deeper plan to deflect attention from some other culprit, which only makes sense if USA agreed to take the blame, which only makes sense if USA is willing to risk Russian reprisals to shield the other actor…

    Sadly, IMO, the most likely perps (means, motive, opportunity) are…
    – USA (official policy from WH)
    – USA Rogue “Deep State” (CIA? other?) acting without WH direction
    – Poland, most likely in cooperation with either/both above.

    Dark Horse candidates: Israel, Turkey. Both prolly have the Tech to do it; both have grudges against Russia AND Germany, both seem technically capable (though USA likely wouldn’t protect Turkey from repercussions).

    • different clue says:

      For Israel to have a grudge against today’s Germany would be psychologically balkanistic, given how Israel-supportive Germany is, so far as I know. About Turkish-German cross-feelings I wouldn’t even know.

      That Sikorski tweet seems purely attention diverting to me. Put the fake spotlight on America by pretending to “thank” America in order to keep the cameras off of Poland.

      And as hard-of-thinking as some USgov policy makers seem to be about some things, that “thank you note” may have taken the relevant American policy-makers/reactors by total deer-in-the-headlights surprise and they had and still have no idea how to respond or even what to say.

      • TTG says:

        different clue,

        I didn’t take Sikorski’s statement as anything more than glee that NS1 and NS2 are, at least temporarily, gone. He just put what he was thinking into a tweet. Most countries in Eastern Europe and the US were against them from the start. They all figured Germany’s over reliance on Russian energy would lead to subservience to Russia. I’m still not convinced who blew up the pipelines, but I’m pretty damned sure somebody did it deliberately.

    • different clue says:

      So, Mr. Jordan is a vintner, eh?

      I wonder how he learned about this intelligence-information type of stuff.

      Maybe he heard it through the grapevine.

      Hyuck yuck yuck.

  15. Mike B says:

    I say Putin is the top suspect. Done to prevent the “wets” in Moscow from turning the gas to Europe back on after a coup. The oligarchs want internal trade restored and to hell with the Donbas.

    • Deap says:

      My money still includes Green Eco-Freaks. But then I suffer from Stockholm Syndrome having lived in California for too long. They remain the most obvious culprits out West.

      F.U. Fossil Fuels, is what gets them up in the morning.

      Plus they are livid Gov Newsom was forced to keep the California Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant open since turning the lights out in an election year was not polling well.

      Unicorn juice is still providing only 3% of the state’s power needs. Nuclear has long been offering 10% to the overall state energy mix. Knocking off gas pipelines elsewhere in the world is the next best thing thing to fulfill their fevered agenda, now denied them out West.

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