“Russian troops fleeing Ukraine’s battlefield advances are leaving behind heavy weapons, including modern T-90 tanks Russia counts among its best main battle tanks, and the Ukrainian armed forces are putting them back into the fight, Kyiv’s military said.
“Thanks to the generosity of the russian federation, the first batch of new T-90A tanks entered into service with #UAarmy,” Ukraine’s defense ministry said on social media Thursday, mockingly calling the move “particularly generous because at the same time the ruscists are launching a program to restore 60-year-old T-62 tanks for their own armed forces.”
Russia has touted the T-90, a modern weapon born out of a T-72 modernization program in the final years of the Soviet Union that has been upgraded repeatedly over time, as one of the most advanced tanks in its arsenal, but even with capable tanks, Russian armor forces have faced setbacks and substantial losses in Ukraine.
Russian forces have lost lots of modern equipment throughout the devastating war in Ukraine and have been forced to pull old and obsolete tanks — like the T-62 referenced by Ukraine’s military — from storage. The T-62 is a Soviet-era main battle tank that was eventually replaced by the T-72 and can be seen on display in some museums.”
Comment: Well, bless them for their generosity. pl
Ukraine Armed With Modern T-90 Tanks Captured From the Russians (businessinsider.com)
The Russians are restoring T-62s because they no longer have the Western technology to restore newer model tanks. They have to return to a time when Russia (USSR) did produce their own stuff without Western help. In the old days, the Soviets were often corrupt, but they were also ideologically motivated. They believed. The new breed managed by Putin is only motivated by greed.
What has happened to all the tanks from the Iraq wars.Instead of taking them back to the US they should be sent to bakhmut for winter.The t 62 will be firing the new Russian smart shells that are GPS guided.Satellites will need to be neutralized
Elon any way you can send some repair guys to orbit to work on that.
In the mean time I will turn off all power to Southern Russia with a low orbit asteroid.
More cost effective.
Also north k need a timely commando raid
Drt 4 troops maybe .halo then quad bike.
Elon any chance you can build my rotating tube generator by December and get them online in march 2023
Elon also starlink is down and twitter #poetry has banned my stuff.please fire the mods
Elon.i once played rugby against bryanstone high.Beat them 45-3
May all your stars be linked.
The tanks from the Iraq wars (all of the wars) were recovered to the US and re-built at the tank plan and then returned to service stocks.
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/content-series/engagement-reframed/engagement-reframed-3-appoint-a-european-saceur/
Well they could parachute them in
I think you should ride one in on the drop.
If they are being so successful in arming the Ukrainians then why is Zelinsky demanding more money and equipment from us?
What type of ‘refurbishment’ is being done? If reports are true the Russians have probably fired the lands out of the barrels of their remaining active artillery and that should be getting refurbished so they might actually hit what they are shooting at. (figuring out what to shoot at is another problem for them)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/07/25/russias-artillery-is-wearing-out-and-blowing-up/?sh=6b798c73734c
Fred,
Worn out barrels are a problem for both sides. We’ve already sent replacement barrels for the M777s and some of the self propelled artillery pieces have been sent out for refurbishment. The Russians are giving 1943 D-1 guns to the militias because of dwindling artillery and ammo supplies. The D-1 is 152mm but can only fire older WWII ammo which, apparently, Russia still has in stock.
TTG,
“older WWII ammo”
I imagine after this is all settle farmers will be digging up unexploded shells for years to come.
I have just gone to the AP Website..Very Good Source..I Clicked on WORLD NEWS
along the Top Header..It Has All World News Events ..I Scrolled Way Down until I Came the Europe,,Russia-Ukraine News..Many Article and Photos..Clicked on a Article from
Yesterday 10/13/22 By Matt Lee and Norman Merchant.. It Was what Missles Russia still hasin its Arsenal and what Russia Used in its Attacks on Monday..
It Said Russia Used its Entire Arsenal of Long Range Precision Weapons..including
KH-55 aand KH-101 Cruise Missles from Strategic Bombers..And Sea Launched KALIBRS…And Land Launced ISKANDERS,,
There Are Many Other” World News ” Articles About Russian and EU Activity’s,,Including Chaos in England..Putin and Turkey and Gas Deals..Drones Smuggled into Norway..Middle East Events its all on The AP World News page..
JT
I Recommend Using AP Webite World News As aSource..
“ It Said Russia Used its Entire Arsenal of Long Range Precision Weapons “
Well, credit where credit is due: they have made a testable hypothesis.
As in: if the Russians keep firing Kalibrs and Islanders then you know that website doesn’t know what it is talking about.
And WPO…What are Your Sources..and Back ground..that you Can make such a Positive Statement in Rebuttal..? What Systems Did RussiaUse..If you are that well Informed ..
JT
I just praised them, Jim.
I didn’t criticize them.
They said something that can be put to the test, and that is praiseworthy.
It does not mean they are right. It doesn’t mean that they are wrong.
It does mean that we will know which soon enough, and I explained how we’d know.
A critical mind is no bad thing.
Unlike ad-hom attacks.
Jim Ticehurst –
Ukraine Ministry of Defense believes Russia still has 124 Iskander SRBM, 272 sea-launch Kaliber cruise missiles, and 213 air-launch KH-101 & KH555 cruise missiles. So if true that is over 600 left not counting Iran’s kamikaze drones. Data is said to be valid as of the 12th. How many did they launch today and yesterday?
https://twitter.com/oleksiireznikov/status/1580842881853845504
Thank You Leith…Yes..I was quoting the Article..Which Apparently Was Stating That The Russians used Many Various
Wepons of Different Types..in Its Attack..I Was Not Saying It was Thier ENTIRE Arsenal..Perhaps a Few of Each At Specific Targets
For Accuracy..TY
JT
Comtinuing to use those to hit apartment buildings, hospitals, and playgrounds has got to be one of the stupidest things I have seen in my life.
I’ve heard on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8KI_9ykDzg The Telegraph podcast at 25:00 minutes one theory that the Ruskies are using extremely old maps, like from 30 years ago…
I Suspect That Moscow…was Test Each of its Land…Sea ans Air Missile Sytems..For Accuracy and Effect..And..
As Usual..In An Evil Manner..On Civilian Targets ….
They know the UKA is getting Air Defense Systems..So The Russians Combined Thier Best Missiles..with Slow..Drones..Which The Anti Missles Systems are Attracted to..
Now..The Russians are Apparently stalling,,Calling For “Evacuations..”..( So Humane) While Russia Armors Up…Gathers Material..Resupplys..Fix up Those Gun Barrels TTG mentions..Gets 2500 More Drones…With
Iranian Trainers In Country to Fly Them and Train The Russians..
I Appreciate Lieth Giving The Full Count Data..There are alot of Each Types of Missle..to Damage Key Targets at Any Time..
I Know Colonel Lang likes Hard Data..Current News..
I Try to Research that For Him..
Im Sure Moscow Has All the Intel Five Eye Spy ..resources NATO Has..He Knows where The UKA is based..Thier Main Motor Pools..and Repair Shops and Supply Depots..And Barracks..
.He Could Target any of them or All of them With His Arsenal..Any Time..Remember Beruit..?? Remember Iraq..? #With New Anti Missles Systems Come In..Moscow..May Have a Red Dawn Suprise..Any Time
Now…
JT
Jim …28 October tekoa
Getting ready for your drop with the tanks?
Wow, am I surprised. Is it customary for opponents to know the exact number of sea, air, and cruise missiles in the other guy’s arsenal. Is military intelligence really that good. So Russia has 600 shots less what they launched on the 14th and 15th. Some missiles will miss, some won’t explode, and some will hit the target square on; but they wont be enough to knock Ukraine out. What does Russia do then; send Bear bombers over Ukraine with tons of WW II era bombs. Who know the answer to this?
Bill
they’ll buy more from Iran
Borko –
Already started reportedly:
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3594333-iran-agrees-to-provide-ballistic-missiles-to-russia-wp.html
Borko –
Izzies are worried that instead of money, Putin will exchange nuke engineering info for those Iranian ballistic missiles. So there are some in Israel saying they should now give weapons to Ukraine. One guy suggesting that they could do actual field tests in combat conditions of their ARROW ABM system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_(Israeli_missile)
Leith
Judging from the peculiar three way dance between Russia, Iran & Israel in Syria, it seems unlikely the Russians would provoke Israel in such a way and vice versa.
Got my goggles,helmet,but I fear it will be too late.
https://youtu.be/AKTVY57oXe0
This usually works but they need bigger planes for tanks. C’mon man, cowboy up!
pl,
We don’t have the M-551s to drop or LAPES anymore. The 82nd kept a battalion of those late into the 90s. First I heard of those was at jump school in July 73. I asked three armor lieutenants with 82nd patches what they were doing there. They told me of their Sheridans. We had three of them in the 25th ID with the ground cav troop of the 3/4 cav squadron. Quirky things with all kinds of problems.
Jonah Goldberg of the Atlantic recently had a good tale about bringing old military equipment out of storage to meet new military’s needs and the phrase, “Hold your horses”:
In the early days of World War II, Britain struggled to get on a war footing. It had to scrounge old equipment—and the old men who remembered how to use it. They de-mothballed some light field artillery that dated all the way back to the Boer War, fought at the turn of the 20th century. It required a five-man crew, and they found some old vets who remembered the routine. Three seconds before firing the thing, two of the men would move to the side and snap to attention until all was silent again. But no one could remember why they did that. It seemed like useless movement and detail. They finally brought in an old artillery colonel. He watched the exercise for a bit, and then suddenly the memory came to him. “I have it. They are holding the horses.”
Until that moment, it didn’t occur to anyone because the artillery had been towed out by truck. But back in the old days, you had to hold your horses lest they get scared away by the boom.