Sasquatch Summit, November 18-19, 2016 – TTG

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Earlier today, Colonel Lang momentarily emerged from his reveries to grace us with a bit of wisdom. Actually it was more of a “druther” than a bit of wisdom. Seems he would rather be a Sasquatch hunter than the Director of National Intelligence. He’d rather be stalking through a chilly forest in a drizzling rain than wearing a suit and dealing with the shameless political hacks at Liberty Crossing or in the halls of Congress. Not only does he want to search for Sasquatch, but he wants to ensure the “Sasquatch People” are protected from the inevitable ravages of mankind. Not too shabby a druther. I’d happily join the Colonel in this noble quest. DOL

In a peculiar coincidence, I discovered that the 2016 Sasquatch Summit will be held in Grays Harbor, Washington on 18 and 19 November. Well known Sasquatch researchers  will present “two days of physical proof about Sasquatch, habitat, audio, video, photos, casts and more. In addition, [they will explain] how to identify hoaxes, the differences between authentic tracks and fake, plus tons more.”

I also found a piece in “The Atlantic” entitled “Why Bigfoot Sightings Are So Common Across Cultures.” Only three weeks old, this piece explores mankind’s need to believe in such creatures.

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“Bigfoot might or might not roam the primeval forests of the Pacific Northwest, watching us and avoiding us, a reminder of our deepest, animalistic past. But whether or not there is an actual creature, the archetypal Sasquatch is, in his own way, very real.“  (The Atlantic)

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 I choose to believe if for nothing else than for the sheer adventure of it.

TTG

Sasquatch Summit 2016

Why Bigfoot Sightings Are So Common Across Cultures

The Sasquatch Genome Project  (link provided by Colonel Lang earlier today)

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93 Responses to Sasquatch Summit, November 18-19, 2016 – TTG

  1. mike allen says:

    TTG –
    Ocean Shores in Grays County where they are holding the Sasquatch Summit is a beach resort. It is a long way south from where Bigfoot stomps around. You have to get up in Clallam or Jefferson County to see those 24 inch footprints. Or maybe even go up to the Alaskan panhandle. I suspect those Sasquatch scholars are a bit too bookish to go stalking through the Hoh or Tongass rainforests dodging bears and banana slugs. But hopefully you will find one or two field researchers among them.
    SWMBO and I were tent camping a decade ago near Lake Quinault. There was a huge ruckus around midnight. It turned out to be a film crew, well oiled with bourbon and beer. They apologized and said they were out looking for Mr Bigfoot, but no luck. They did share some bourbon.

  2. Earthrise says:

    You crazy kids, just the thing to wash off the stink of this election cycle. Problem is, if you find them, you may not want to leave.
    The Simple Life sounds good right about now.

  3. turcopolier says:

    All
    I find it amusing to watch the Sasquatch crews on TeeVee. These guys make tremendous amounts of noise and have no light discipline at all. The “call blasting” thing is particularly funny. I can imagine Jimmy Sasquatch listening to this at night and saying. “Oh, shit. they’re back.” pl

  4. optimax says:

    Colonel and TTG
    Yes, Sasquatch needs protection from the homicidal maniacs intent on murdering him. All I ask is when you find it take a selfie with him. We’ve out competed all other hominids, I like to think there’s another left besides us.
    There use to be a Bigfoot Bookstore in the neighborhood that had a Bigfoot Museum in the basement. There were some hairs, a plaster cast of a big footprint and some grainy photos. The owner closed the bookstore and moved to Washington to pursue his Bigfoot quest–said it was more profitable than the bookstore.

  5. Peter in Toronto says:

    Whatever came out of that alleged Bigfoot DNA sample that some author was investigating with a “well known and respected lab”?
    Seems these guys only make enough noise to promote their book, and then disengage to keep the myth alive for another sequel.
    David Paulides was his name, that’s it.
    A pre-human hominid like that could be easily tracked with an aerial FLIR sensor.

  6. optimax says:

    As we did with Neanderthals we could breed with another hominid.
    http://rcrumb.blogspot.com/2012/01/whiteman-meets-bigfoot.html

  7. euclidcreek says:

    Bigfoot vs Mothman?

  8. divadab says:

    Sasquatch hunting is futile. However, if you hang out for long enough in their territory (pretty much anywhere in the PNW temperate rain forest), and they can get a feel for you and your respectful attitude, they will reveal themselves. Very rare to see them but they will throw pinecones, bang on trees, etc. Sasquatch is a drummer and he may also respond to your own drumming with his own rhythms.
    Sasquatch will stay away any from chainsaws, mowers, anything motorized and loud.
    Certain people believe Sasquatch is a trans-dimensional being – hence no bodies ever found. I think this is a clue to Sasquatch’s real identity – he is the Man in the Woods with a Club, Enkidu, e.g., an archetype as old as humanity.

  9. turcopolier says:

    Peter in Toronto
    with regard to FLIR, the woods are full of hotspots and there are only so many sensors. pl

  10. Babak Makkinejad says:

    TTG:
    I would venture that only European-Americans attend this type of event.
    Like the “Burning Man”.
    I also wonder if any non-Euro-American has ever been abducted by the aliens and subjected to their shenanigans.

  11. Babak Makkinejad says:

    Please…
    On what could a group of such large animals subsist?
    And why are there no biological residue of them ever found – such as bone fragments, fur, excrement, etc.?

  12. turcopolier says:

    Babak
    you did not read the Q&A but write anyhow? Many, many bits and pieces have been found. you would know that if you had read the Q&A. North America is filled with food for any such creature. How do you think that bears, bison, elk and moose live? pl

  13. Babak Makkinejad says:

    Q&A? Sorry, I missed it. Where is it please?

  14. Babak Makkinejad says:

    All:
    I stand by my skepticism about Sasquatch, even after reading the Q&A.
    The issue of contamination is a serious one – even academic specialists with clean-rooms have been forced to retract their published results in Science of in Nature (among many others) due to contamination issues with the DNA samples. This plagues DNA analysis – examples: Neanderthal DNA analysis, analysis of meteorite for signs of extraterrestrial life.
    The only thing I found noteworthy was the claim of a tissue sample – 3 X 1/2 X 1/2. Let them produce that piece of tissue and have it analyzed by a research laboratory.
    All I read over there was unsubstantiated claims.
    A skull would be very useful.
    Or teeth; since they last a very long time indeed and there is a lot of knowledge and experience in the analysis of ancient teeth extant among paleontologists.

  15. Imagine says:

    Sadly, the one main movie is a world-class hoax. A detective tracked down the actor, the film location, the guy who sold the producer a 1960’s-era gorilla suit, etc. The real smoking gun is he has his booties on backwards, and when he lifts his right foot IIRC it’s got a left 1960’s blobby slipper sole on it. Which looks like a slipper booty and nothing like a real creature’s foot sole.
    https://www.amazon.com/Making-Bigfoot-Inside-Story/dp/1591021391
    This is not to say that Bigfoot does not really exist. Gorillas were thought to be myths until about a century ago. And it turns out that Sherpas are actually crossbred humans with not Neanderthal but “Denisovan” hominid blood, they are not pure human, absolutely fascinating, which explains a lot.
    http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2014/07/02/sex-with-extinct-humans-passed-high-altitude-gene-to-tibetans/
    http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/07/tibetans-inherited-high-altitude-gene-ancient-human

  16. turcopolier says:

    David Habakkuk
    I merely described reality and implied that for someone whom you and I think appropriate to become CJCS requires some explanation other than virtue. Considerable skill in dissembling and self concealment would be required. When asked to be a permanent professor at USMA I declined because it was clear to me that the USMA culture and therefore that of the Army favored rigorous but not expansive thinking. As my dear old dad said, “in the Regular Army we cut off whatever sticks out.” “the mainstream” is what is valued. BTW, with regard to Flynn one must remember that e was always a tactical/targeting man until he took over DIA where he was fired. pl

  17. turcopolier says:

    Babak
    In my opinion you do not accept the data because you do not wish to. pl

  18. Colonel Lang,
    Thanks for that clarification.
    I should say that I am fascinated both by General Dempsey and Lieutenant-General Flynn, for complex reasons.
    Having myself no skill in ‘dissembling and self concealment’, what I wanted was to work for people who could manage the ‘political’ aspect as I could not – but would want to have ‘good work’ done for them.
    (Hence my immense respect for Walter Bedell Smith.)
    More and more, such people have disappeared – but it seemed to me that General Dempsey might be in that ‘mould’.

  19. Generalfeldmarschall von Hindenburg says:

    Euclidcreek – Good one! I recommend Jacques Valee’s “Passport to Magonia” or John Keel’s Mothman book. The latter is the kind of writing no one does anymore and a lot of fun to read no matter what your opinion on things like UFOs or disincarnate entelechies.

  20. Peter in Toronto says:

    This is true. I’m willing to bet that to this day there are swaths of old growth forest that have never seen a human, especially in the west.
    I remember reading how elusive it was for European explorers to track down a living, wild panda (upon hearing rumors of their existence from locals), and those are relatively dim and immobile creatures. A robust, pre-human hominid would likely be able to cover a lot of ground.

  21. Peter in Toronto says:

    What are you alluding at here? That esoteric phenomena are attributed only to people of European descent?
    You’d be surprised how many tales the native Amerindians have in their folklore about wild men and even encounters with star people.
    As far as the abduction phenomenon goes, I’m sorry to disappoint, but there are numerous claims from African Americans and others. Most notably, the first reported US abduction was the Betty and Barney Hill incident. Barney Hill was a man of mixed heritage. Someone compiled most of the known incidents and found it is a global, multi-ethnic phenomenon. It has certainly been popularized in US mainstream culture more than anywhere else, that’s for sure.

  22. NotTimothyGeithner says:

    Chuppicabra, the Mongolian fireworm, Mokele-mbebe, and so forth beg to differ. The sightings often reflect local fauna and myths, but the modern alien abduction myths share many similarities to medieval visions of angels. Those dreams where people wake up and can’t move become aliens and demons depending on the popular culture of the day.
    “Bigfoot” or a “missing link” is shaped by the rise of evolutionary science. Less “modern” societies see skin changers and wild men. The “yeti” was once a wild man spirit who became a hidden ape modeled on local monkeys and gorillas. The “yeren” of China was once a mysterious Wildman who took on apelike qualities when news of gorillas traveled.

  23. turcopolier says:

    nottimothygeithner
    Color me primitive. but, I would not have joined the Green Berets if I had not been. pl

  24. turcopolier says:

    Babak
    Have you ever had ought to do with “primitive” people (other than your students? pl

  25. turcopolier says:

    Gruenther would be another such as would FM Slim have been. pl

  26. Babak Makkinejad says:

    My instructor days are long over; although I must admit that while it is easy to get the boy out of the academe, it is not as easy to get the academe out of the boy.
    Last person I mentored stated that I was the man who turned out to be always right.

  27. Babak Makkinejad says:

    Thank you for your comments.
    Wikipedia reports the abduction phenomenon have been made around the world, but are less common outside of English speaking countries, especially the United States.
    I was trying to refine it further and see if there is a ethno-cultural bias in this phenomenon.

  28. Fred says:

    While the fine committee is searching for the Denizens of the Northwest Passage or some other such creatures I, being a bit more nautically inclined scoundrel, will have to head up a search for Nessie. This will of course entail some extended acclimatization so I think I’ll have to start in Dublin, which though an Island away at least has the two great ingredients to start the process off right: Guinness and Jameson. I am more that happy to invite other members of the committee of correspondence along. If you don’t partake of spirits they do brew up some fine tea. (A feat I wish I could emulate at home.). Then off to Islay for something a bit more “peaty”. Acclimation has to been done right after-all.

  29. ked says:

    well, at least brown-nosing is universal.

  30. turcopolier says:

    babak
    In the ME I was often told that ghosts are real and asked by physics students if they could trust professors who told them that TV was a physical phenom and not the result of jinn. So, let’s not get too pumped up. I have only occasionally seen ghosts. pl

  31. Degringolade says:

    Since that is close I might attend, but at 6-8 and > 300lbs with a pronounced tendency toward the hirsute, I worry that I may end up being a “sighting”

  32. I also wonder if any non-Euro-American has ever been abducted by the aliens and subjected to their shenanigans.
    Barney and Betty Hill said they had encounters with aliens in the early 1960s. “They were an interracial couple at a time when it was particularly uncommon in the United States; Barney was African American and Betty was European American.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_and_Betty_Hill

  33. Babak Makkinejad says:

    I never question the phenomenon only the interpretation of it.

  34. Babak Makkinejad says:

    Aye mate, it is a heavy burden, akin to a curse, this being always right.

  35. Babak Makkinejad says:

    In regards to ghosts; I have never heard of them in Iran – she has no popular ghost stories – unlike China, Japan, and Korea.
    Jin do appear in popular stories; and a variety of monsters, along the lines of Rusalka; such as “Zan-e Zal” – an evil being in the form of human female who subsists on the liver of recently pregnant women.
    I met a Japanese once who told me that his father had seen ghosts.

  36. Mark Logan says:

    Col,
    What’s also a laugh for us locals is recognizing the land they are on as Weyerhaeuser (tree farm) land between Mts Rainier and St. Helens. Areas crawling with hunters and car-campers year round. I suppose the cameras get heavy after a mile or so…
    The tales around St. Helens from 1924? They all maintained their story was true for the rest of their lives and there were five miners in that cabin. Another bit of local yore, Jim Whittaker, Lou’s twin brother, has been asked a few times. And one time at a climbing seminar I attended he relied thus:
    “Bigfoot no, Yeti maybe.”
    “Why not Bigfoot?”
    “I’m sure I’ve never seen a Bigfoot.”
    And that is all anybody can get from him.

  37. Babak Makkinejad says:

    Thanks.
    Indeed, “I am doing the best that I can.”
    Couldn’t have said it better myself!
    I guess there is still some hope for me after all.

  38. kooshy says:

    Babak I know a few Iranian American in Calif they attend Burning Man , some 60 year old lady with grandchildren, a successful business woman from a rich Iranian family.

  39. kooshy says:

    I can’t believe how young he is in that MV

  40. BabelFish says:

    I’m on board with you! The NR-1 is retired (my brother helped do that at PNSY) but maybe we can borrow Alvin or one of the Mirs from the Roosians.

  41. turcopolier says:

    David Habakkuk
    “I should say that I am fascinated both by General Dempsey and Lieutenant-General Flynn, for complex reasons.” Alumnus status at one of the US service academies remains a powerful advantage in the US military. Flynn has struggled with that all his adult life. it leaves a mark. pl

  42. Fred says:

    BabelFish,
    Welcome aboard! I served on the NR-1, briefly. “Baby nuke” as the slang went at the time. My first time at sea on a sub was that boat. Quite the adventure. Sometimes volunteering has advantages. The rest of my compadres thought a couple weeks on ashore at Port Canaveral were much more desirable.

  43. Babak Makkinejad says:

    Rather, you seem to give credence to what I suspect…

  44. Degringolade,
    Yep. You’re definitely on the team. You can conduct the psychological preparation of the Sasquatch People by venturing into the forest primeval, maybe bang on a few trees and wiggle provocatively to draw in a few starry-eyed females of the species. Whether you want to be the one to establish first contact with the amorous vixens will be totally up to your discretion. Optimax graciously provided a link to how that could play out.
    http://rcrumb.blogspot.com/2012/01/whiteman-meets-bigfoot.html

  45. turcopolier says:

    TTG
    As I mentioned before we can do pattern analysis for what is known of Sasquatch activities and then send Degringolade into the right WV hollows wearing a ball cap, a size extra large checked wool shirt and bib front overalls. the recon truck can be any old pickup with a gun rack behind the driver’s head and signs that say things like “eat more possum” and “Jane Fonda” American Traitor Bitch.” Actually, equipped like that he would be virtually invisible among the locals. Maybe he could sprinkle himself with some gorilla pheromones?

  46. Babak Makkinejad says:

    A gun rack on the back window, a few spent cartridges on the floor (from various calibers), and crumpled packets of Lucky Strikes on the dash and front seat would also help.

  47. turcopolier says:

    Babak
    Yes, in the actual Virginia we always police up our brass. pl

  48. Babak Makkinejad says:

    The Beige and the White – need I say more?

  49. turcopolier says:

    euclidcreek
    Mothman? I think Laura Linney is interesting. She was in the movie. The mothman phenom occurred around Point Pleasant WV.
    the last Confederate general McCausland farmed there after the WBS and died there in the 20s. pl

  50. Degringolade says:

    Sir:
    I already have two ex-wives. I will have to pass on that part.

  51. BabelFish says:

    Ah yes! Cherchez la femme on the shining sands of Coco Beach. Perhaps stop in at the early Ron-Jons for appropriate cherchez clothing.

  52. divadab says:

    try reading my post again.

  53. divadab says:

    @Imagine – “crossbred humans with…Denisovan hominid blood, they are not pure human”
    Whatever can cross-breed with a human is also human. Denisovans and neanderthals were human, as their dna survives in many human populations. You have been misled by anthropologists who find a new fossil and call it a new species when in reality we humans have been and continue to be composed of many varieties – one species, many varieties, for over 2 million years.

  54. Degringolade says:

    A couple of modifications on the equipment. I would go with camel studs.
    Tragically my ’67 Dodge truck is gone….it would have been perfect, redneck bumper stickers, rifle rack, the whole kaboodle. But it has gone to pasture, alas, now I drive a minivan.
    But I always kept used to keep my paperback copy of volume one of “A La Recherche du Temps Perdu”, tucked into the lower hook of the gun rack. Wanted to keep them guessing as to whether I was firm supporter of gun rights or just a french queer.
    Also, mixed caliber brass would be suspicious. As a traditionalist, I lean toward 30-30.

  55. Babak Makkinejad says:

    I did. I stand by my opinion about any such large hominid living any where in North America.
    You only need to equip a dew thousand drones with IR cameras – looking for a heat signature the is somewhat similar to man – as seen from a distance of a few hundred yards.
    And what is NSA doing?
    Cannot they point a few of their cameras from their spiffy satellites in Earth orbit to look for these Hominids?
    I mean, NSA could justify the effort:
    NSA Staff: Well Sir, we have reason to believe that Al Qaeda is the Pacific Northwest; trying to convert Sasqutach population to their Jihadist creed?
    NSA Directors: Did you say Jihadists? Pull all the stops, get satellite surveillance going pronto, I want those damn SOBs before they convert any of our Big Foot.
    NSA Staff: Yes Sir, Sir!
    NSA Director: I have heard those Jihadists won’t pass up any females, you get the drift of my meaning son?
    NSA Staff: Yes, Sir, loud and clear.
    NSA Director: Carry on.

  56. turcopolier says:

    Babak
    You have no idea what you are talking about. in the real world as opposed to Newsweek or other popular press, these assets, even if they existed with the capabilities that you fantasize about would never be diverted to this task. pl

  57. Donald says:

    This has been one of the most entertaining threads I’ve read anywhere.
    I read about cryptozoology when I was a kid and still like watching the shows occasionally, secretly hoping that some day someone will show that some of these animals are real. Though it might be more fun just to wonder about it and not know for sure. The extradimensional Sasquatch might be the one with the best chance of existing and avoiding capture.

  58. Ah, the glorious 30-30. My frat brothers gave me a Winchester 94 for a wedding present. Actually it’s a Ted Williams model 100 built by Winchester for Sears. The women folk weren’t too excited about it, but it’s a wedding present we still have after forty years.

  59. Two ex-wives, eh. Do you have a Rolex and a ruby ring?

  60. turcopolier says:

    TTG
    You can always get new women. pl

  61. turcopolier says:

    TTG
    In those days it was a star sapphire ring, a Rolex, an erection and a bag of dirty laundry dragged behind when you got back to Bragg. One of my sergeants came home early from somewhere and found his wife shacked up with a leg captain from 18th Corps artillery. the captain said “you are going to kill me aren’t you?” The sergeant played him a hand of poker for her, lost and walked out. “Sang Froid” pl

  62. turcopolier says:

    Donald
    I am informed that you are actually a Sasquatch monitoring our traffic. pl

  63. turcopolier says:

    Degringolade
    30-30? Too light. I saw a USAF captain empty one into a big boar on a mountainside in Turkey. The pig weighed 200 lbs gutted. It grabbed his leg and bit its way up toward his crotch, finally let go after attacked by dogs and shot few more tines. It attacked a tree and then fell over dead. the spare ribs were delicious. pl

  64. Degringolade says:

    Now that is just hurtful.

  65. I was impressed by the Hawaiians who hunted wild pigs and big boars in the mountain jungle with a pack of dogs and knives. I’ve seen some big ass boars taken down by some big ass Samoans. I had a Samoan corporal who lured a good sized pig in with some c-rats, tackled it and killed it one night directly in front of my tent. The pig and the corporal looked about the same size in the darkness. This was back when we had company mess teams and we were in an isolated encampment on the Big Island. We ate good the next night.

  66. Babak Makkinejad says:

    Of course they exist, I saw them in many movies.
    In fact, I suspected that US had ship-borne Laser Guns when I saw one deployed in the Transformers II movie.

  67. Degringolade says:

    Look, while I did have a penchant for stealing jeeps, I only had/have a Seiko Mechanical. Being a lowly EM, I had no rings, but I always thought that the Marine Raider stilleto that my dads best Friend Eddie gave me when I joined up was cooler than any Demo Knife.
    I will accept the suppositions concerning erections and dirty laundry.

  68. Fred says:

    Don’t forget the Moon Hut for pizza and cold beer. Though I think like the Apollo program and a 34″ waist line they are now just a memory.

  69. optimax says:

    Degringolade
    To make your disguise complete and acceptance assured you need a case of PBR. Craft beer is for citified snobs.

  70. hans says:

    Over at the Bluegill Bar the other day we were having a discussion about yetis, which is what we mostly call ’em hereabout, and whether or not they hibernate. We all agreed that the ones here do hibernate, cuz none of us have any indications otherwise and most of us have felt their presence during the more clement months.
    Years ago one fellow thought he caught a glimpse of one, and several of us, while porch sitting, have heard a kind of baritone huffing grunt that sounds nothing like any sound ever emitted by bear or moose, the only other candidates hereabout.
    Our dogs don’t like it at all. Last October my flat coated retriever and I were listening to owls and the occasional fox snuffling through the leaf litter late one night when the sound of that grunting huff came down from the ridge about 200 yards away – maybe a little farther cuz there was a breeze from that direction that would’ve helped carry it.
    Lady started a hard growl deep in her chest and when I put my hand out to her I could feel her mane standing on end, along with all the hair across her shoulder and down her spine. The only time I’ve ever heard that from her is when she was within a bat’s blink of total war – you other dog men out there know what I mean, when they’re like that it’s life or death, and god help anybody or anything gets in their way. Bears never bother her like that – she’s actually been kinda friendly with a couple of ’em over the years. She hates moose, and I’m not fond of ’em either – probably the most dangerous critter any of us east of the Rockies will ever encounter – but this sound wasn’t moose or bear, and anyway it grew fainter and fainter, seeming to move upwind away from us. For a couple of minutes after I couldn’t hear it anymore Lady stayed on alert until she finally let out a deep sighing breath and relaxed.
    Now consider, if an animal the size of Mrs. Yeti were active year round her basic calorie needs just to stay warm would be about one deer a week. Yet we have no evidence of that. And Mrs. Yeti would be a direct competitor to the wolves we have in considerable numbers in northern Wisconsin today. No evidence of that either. Increasingly, the woods are full of a new prey species in winter – snowmobilers. But we’ve no evidence they’re being taken by either wolves or yetis. Maybe that’s because there are some things no self-respecting predator will stoop to.
    So at the end, we, of the Bluegill Bar Yeti Preservation Society, conclude: the yetis are here, they’re peaceful, and they mind their own business. In other words, perfect neighbors.
    Time to bring over that jug of stumpblower… time for a toast.

  71. LeaNder says:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mothman_Prophecies_(film)
    Interesting. Both the genre and your alert to the actress.
    There was a specific variant in the thriller genre in the 40s with a strong psychological component. I recall, I was glued to that type as young adult. They left traces. I still somewhat love the genre … within my personal limits, that is. 😉

  72. Booby says:

    I have a cousin in south Georgia who is a crazy pig hunter. When the dogs corner a hawg, usually in a palmetto thicket, my cousin would crawl into the palmetto with a large caliber pistol & shoot the boar between the eyes. Now he crawls into the palmetto with a lasso to put around a leg or two. The hunters drag the boar out & take it home to pen feed it for a couple of weeks. The BBQ is delicious.

  73. When I was drinking too much beer I determined by experience and reading of published reviews that the most cost-effective brand, combining relative cheapness and acceptable taste, was Schlitz.
    Now that I have found Missus Charley my substance-abusing days are behind me – for the foreseeable future – however long that is.

  74. John Minnerath says:

    Optimax
    Craft beer !?!, and I suppose dressed out with all new duds from LL Bean.
    You want to spook all the 2 leggeds and 4 leggeds in the county?
    A rodeo cold 12 pack of Coors in the back and a PETA (People Eat Tasty Animals) sticker on the rear bumper will help you blend into the surroundings. As long as you haven’t shaved for a couple days.
    I agree with PL, a 30-30 is pretty light. Nothing less than something like a 7mm Mag.
    Around these parts everyone who’s been in the woods for more than a couple days looks sort of like Sasquatch, so they’re hard to spot. Then we have the Little People too

  75. turcopolier says:

    TTG
    Hey, fellah, this is no bullshit. A while back I knew a group of lawyers in Mississippi who had a patch of woods in which they hunted hogs that were mixed European Boar and feral pigs. The things were HUGE with big teeth. These lawyers hunted these animals with medieval boar spears. A blacksmith made them locally with leaf shaped foot long sharp on both side spearheads and a big cross bar on both sides. their technique was to threaten the pig until it charged. You had to see this to believe it. These were corporate lawyers. pl

  76. Bobo says:

    At an earlier time in life I also was an aficionado of the “Beer that made Milwaukee Famous” to the degree that I found the empties so stable that I stacked them against a wall “floor to ceiling” in my bedroom. Unfortunately one of my roommates mothers stopped by one day with a care package and noticed my wallpaper and her undies at the top. The wallpaper came down rather quickly after that
    My only experience with a Sasquatch was on the side of a large hill covered with wild flower off a road in New Hampshire that we stopped to climb. While laying on the side of the hill examining the world we heard these grunts and looked up to see this huge creature cresting the hill tossing his arms into the air. We got the message quickly and headed for the car. Looking back seeing this fella at the top of the hill we remarked that he musta been seven feet tall and resembled “the Man in the Mountain” but Sasquatch will do.

  77. Degringolade says:

    I hate to interrupt this colloquium for news of the more mundane.
    I found this interesting this morning.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/pentagon-and-intelligence-community-chiefs-have-urged-obama-to-remove-the-head-of-the-nsa/2016/11/19/44de6ea6-adff-11e6-977a-1030f822fc35_story.html
    There is an old saying about judging a man by the quality of his enemies.

  78. BabelFish says:

    Fred, I believe the Moon Hut is history but Ron-Jon is still open and is one a giant Art Deco palace.

  79. Ishmael Zechariah says:

    Colonel, TTG;
    Sorry for butting in, but I am on the side of the pigs in this one, being an apostate Muslim and all. Hope one got eaten.
    Ishmael Zechariah.

  80. Ishmael Zechariah says:

    I meant to say “one of the lawyers got eaten”. That would certainly accrue some righteousness to the pigs.

  81. hans says:

    The tedium of a life at the bar must be exquisite these days. I grew up around pastured pigs and there’s almost nothing as ill-tempered and fearsome as a 600 # sow protecting her brood. They’re pretty quick, especially considering their size; maybe they can’t outrun a horse, but more’n likely they can outrun you.
    Word around northern Wisconsin is some jackoff has released one or two pair of Russians up in Yooperland. If that’s true, it won’t be long before deer hunting gets real interesting up there.
    And if true, it’ll create a market for .50 caliber autos and antitank ammo.

  82. Degringolade,
    I saw this story last night. It has everything in it. I’ll start a post on this later today, although I hate to take away from this discussion of Sasquatch and wild pigs. I can imagine a lot of us sitting around a table sharing a good stew and some home brew swapping yarns. The dry heat and glorious smell of a wood stove just adds to the atmosphere.

  83. optimax says:

    JM
    Pabst Blue Ribbon isn’t considered a craft beer at the dive bars which serving it.

  84. optimax says:

    mistah charley
    Most people research beer by comparative drinking, or competitive drinking. You’re the only one i’ve heard of that has taken the academic route.

  85. John Minnerath says:

    heheh, It’s been so long since I’ve seen a Pabst the PBL went right by me.

  86. hans says:

    That’s a low, mean trick to play on a feller. I damn near choked on my coffee and also ruined my new wireless keyboard… It’s so mean n low I just couldn’t resist passing that link along to my 200 or so closest about-to-be-former friends 🙂

  87. Ishmael Zechariah says:

    Degringolade, all;
    This is a satire website. http://realorsatire.com/cnn-com/.
    Be careful of phishing and other dangers.
    Ishmael Zechariah

  88. Ulenspiegel says:

    “In my opinion you do not accept the data because you do not wish to.”
    This is a possibility, however, BM’s argument is IMHO spot on.
    If you are interested in the Neanderthal story with all its pitfalls you should read “Neanderthal Man” by Svante Pääbo. The guy is head of an excellent Max Planck group and leading scientist in his field.
    He describes in his book with a lot of humor the developement of DNA analysis from fossils; he admits that his first paper (Nature!) was very likely wrong because of contamination – he actually did not isolate the mummy DNA but the DNA of a curator. 🙂

  89. different clue says:

    There was a respected natural scientist, leader of collecting expeditions for the British Museum, author of many books, etc. named Ivan T. Sanderson. Here is a little wiki about him.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_T._Sanderson
    I mention this because as well as having written carefully researched and written staid and sedate mainstream books for a mainstream audience, he also wrote some equally carefully researched and written books about subjects called “paranormal” for people will to read about them.
    One of those books was called Abominable Snowmen: Legend Come To Life. It discusses at length and in detail the aspects of “big parallel humanoid” sightings all over the world. I read it about 25 years ago but I think it could be very relevant to the subject of Sasquatchology today. Here is the link.
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/223404.Abominable_Snowmen

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