Corte Madera, CA – A major lawsuit is on the precipice of being filed by the Institute for American Democracy and Election Integrity, the implications of which could dramatically alter the landscape of the 2016 U.S. presidential race.
The group claims that in about eleven states, there has been noted a significant difference between the exit polls and the electronic vote totals presented on the morning after the primaries. These differences show votes appear to be shifted from Bernie Sanders to Hillary Clinton. The chances of this kind of shift happening are considered to be statistically impossible between Tuesday night and Wednesday morning in these eleven states. See the chart below.
“We are going to be filing a racketeering lawsuit under the Ohio Racketeering law, the strongest in the country and we can bring in every state, our RICO statute is coextensive with the federal RICO statute… So they’re nailed,” said Cliff Arnebeck.
Arnebeck, an election lawyer, got his J.D. from Harvard and is the chair of the Legal Affairs Committee of Common Cause Ohio and a national co-chair and attorney for the Alliance of Democracy. He will be joined by Bob Fitrakis, an election lawyer and political science professor, as co-counsel.
Computer security expert Stephen Spoonamore, who worked with Arnebeck on exposing GOP election fraud in Ohio has noted that when exit poll data varies more than 2% from electronic vote totals, the electronic vote totals are questionable.
In fact, 2% is the boundary by the US government when determining whether an election in another country has possibly been stolen. Please notice the exit poll differences in the 2016 DNC primaries listed above are significantly more than 2%. These differences point to questionable results for the electronic vote totals and likely electronic vote switching. (The Free Thought Project.com)
This isn’t the rigged system that Crazy Bernie and Deadbeat Donald railed against. That’s the system established by private political parties to further their own interests while giving the appearance of democracy in action. They’re well within their rights to use computer modeling, ouija board and/or a smoke filled room to pick their nominees. All they have to do is sell it to the public as a legitimate process. This is about voting and vote counting using public voting procedures, machines and officials… and some possibly nefarious IT contractors.
The lawsuit is delayed in order to incorporate data from the 7 June California Democratic primary. I don’t know if they’re concerned about the Republican primary. These primaries use 100% paper ballots so the final count and certification will take a while. In light of a pending lawsuit, I’m curious if any significant discrepancies will be found.
This lawsuit may come to nothing, but it may also further taint the HRC juggernaut. If nothing else, it will further erode the public's trust in our whole election process. Drip. Drip. Drip.
I have followed Greg Palast for a number of years since 2000. He has been on about vote suppression for many of them. Here is his take today: http://www.gregpalast.com/california-primary-returning-to-the-scene-of-crime/
Both parties have participated. I recall from my time in Chicago in the early 1970s with détente with the USSR that a standing joke was that Chicago had participated by donating voting machines to Moscow for their mayoral election and Richard Daley had been elected Mayor of Moscow.
Will it make a difference?
You tell me; the “Landslide Lyndon” whose election to US Senate in 1937 is claimed to have been rigged.
Or the 5000 votes cast in Cook County which sealed Kennedy’s election?
Irony Alert – Yes, Babak we are hopelessly corrupt and hypocritical. Feel good to have gotten that off your chest? pl
Given the much better machine HRC has I’d look at the absentee/early balloting to see if that is a factor. For instance the Metro areas in Georgia opened up a lot of places for early voting compared to the past and you no longer need a reason to vote early. You can just show up. With the growth of early voting exit poles are becoming less reliable. So the notion of 2% variance suggesting election fraud is, IMO, no longer compelling.
It seems there is a lawsuit every election about nefarious machines and nothing comes out if it.
I know that in the primary couple weeks ago, Hillary won my county’s Democrat primary by a decent margin. I don’t know anyone who voted for her. Most of my family, friends and neighbors are Democrats and they all voted for Sanders. I think I saw 2 bumper stickers and 3 yard signs for her relative to the many tens for Sanders. She sure has a lot of stealth support here.
TTG, IMO a direct voting fraud like that is not in the cards, it’s too dangerous and not really necessary. Observed exprinces tells me, that they have such firm grip control on this nations Main Stream informatiob broadcasting systems, that they can turn on, or turn off the (minimum number of ) voters in any which way they wish. In my observatio, in matter of few hours they can turn the majority of this country for or against what they want, having power like that makes it unnecessary and unpractical to change votes on ballot boxes after they were cast. IMO our problem with this rigged system is much more deeper and more aggressively challenging then just a childish last century style voting fraud.
The 50 States control federal elections. Need we say more? And this is not a Constitutional mandate but continued inability of the federal government to reform itself. Also one of the key basis for our system of federalism.
We still have all-paper votes in the UK. If an election result is challenged you still have physical evidence of how people voted. Provides nice little earners for all those banks clerks too – if such people still exist.
TTG, and all
One of the tricks to hacking an election is to generate a vote total wherein the winning margin exceeds by a goodly amount the automatic recount trigger that most election laws provide. This forces the cost of the recount onto the putative loser. Another, as has been used in the past, is to destroy any paper ballots used or machine logs generated before a recount can be called. Even if so doing is in violation of the law. After all, in for a sheep as a lamb. Also, many of the voting machines commonly in use leave no verifiable audit trail in any case.
Col Lang and those here able to answer:
As an officer’s oath of office is to the Constitution, if it were proven beyond the proverbial without doubt criteria, that a Presidential election had or was being stolen, what would be the possible reaction of the Officer Corps? This may not be as hypothetical a question as we might wish…
I understand as well as a civilian does understand such things that this intimately involves the subordination of the military to the civilian authority.
Electronic voting is inherently hackable and insecure. The only safe solution is paper ballots, hand counted in the presence of multiple interested parties and immediately posted where the ballots were cast.
An organization that has been trying to challenge the safety of electronic voting is blackboxvoting.org. On their website they present some videos which claim that the Diebolt voting machines can multiply voting results by a number to alter the results.
To pick a nit, IIRC it was in 1948 that Landslide Lyndon was elected to the Senate by less than 100 votes.
Well said, Dr. Cuming. How many of our fellow citizens understand that? How many think the two party system is a constitutional artifact?
Agreed and I hope we all know that the howling from the MSM would be deafening. The barely restrained frenzy on their part to call the results of an election whould be seriously crimped by this return to sanity. On the other hand, we would then miss Wolf Blitzer doing his election night impression of a gerbil on amphetamines.
There was also this statistical analysis:
In certain district in Quebec, during the last Quebec Independence referendum, there were no English language ballots.
And you saw what happened in Florida. Paper is no panacea, look at elections in Egypt.
Thanks, I did not know that.
48 to be exact!
Thanks for the Dr. but no thanks. I graduate with the more honorable bachelor of laws degree in June 67. 5 years later the ABA lobbied the academic world to make the first level degree in law a Juris Doctor. It did so. And I was contacted by my law school that if I sent $25 to them I would have a totally new parchment degree issued reading Juris Doctor in 1967.
Thus, I have two officially issued law degrees.
Many Doctors of Juridical Science exist in fact like the PhD.
But hey before the first WW almost no real law degrees or medical degrees existed in our U.S.A. Again IMO!
And there were persistent rumors that, in Hill Country TX, there were entire counties (with only a few hundred residents each, admittedly) where all the voter affidavits were signed in the same handwriting, where a good deal more than 48 votes were supplied for LBJ…
It is well known that the voter fraud which occurs in the US occurs with absentee ballots and with fraud involving the voting machines. Yet, we never see attempts to change this.
I tend to agree. There is probably some other type of laziness which explains the exit poll not matching the vote tallies.
However I do not that Dem turnout is substantially compared to the election that Obama won. Two possibilities. Black people dont care if there is no black person standing, or there were some very effective vote suppression tactics designed to keep the kids from voting. The postal vote favored HRC by more than 2:1
Good. I was wondering about that recently because of the vote coming up in Britain on leaving the (awful) European Union. I had found an article from several years ago saying that paper ballots were used, but I was not sure if that was still the case. Electronic voting machines make voting fraud easy; a lot more work is necessary for fraud with paper ballots.
I think that “Landslide Lyndon” Johnson got his nickname in a runoff election against Coke R. Stevenson in the Democratic primary in Texas for a U.S. Senate seat in 1948. LBJ got some “extra” votes in Duval County and in Jim Wells County. The “corrected” vote total from Jim Wells County came from around 203 names that had been added to the voter sign-in sheet, and each “voter” signed in the same handwriting, and the names were in alphabetical order, as if the voters happened to show up to vote in alphabetical order!
There was a lawsuit over the mess, and at some point a court issued an injunction order to prevent LBJ’s name from being placed on the ballot in the general election that fall. But before the general election, the injunction was lifted and Johnson’s name was allowed to be on the ballot. He easily won the general election, since at that time the Democratic Party was dominant in Texas.
I am not aware of an article or book devoted to the lawsuit(s) that occurred after that primary race when the voting fraud became known.
See also, “The Duke of Duval: The Life and Times of George B. Parr,” by Dudley Lynch (1976).
If b’s post on his blog is to be believed, the Russians have bombed explicitly U.S. supported and organized jihadists, had their planes “chased away” by American planes and when the American planes left come back and bombed the American Jihadists again.
If true, these are not the actions of a military who are particularly scared of the American forces in Syria. Nor is it possible to rule out a Russian strategy to make it politically possible in the United States to introduce American ground forces in Syria, thousands of them. When you stop to consider that, all told, the U.S. is currently spending a trillion dollars a year on “Defense” this is probably a winning strategy. It’s even better than that. It may in fact be brilliant. The second foreign military adventure becomes the major issue confronting the electorate, the electorate will be able to see the stark contrast between Clinton and Trump.
On topic, there was wide divergence between exits and votes in Florida when GWB got elected.
They speak French in Quebec.
And the ballots have to be available in both English and French.
Nixon would have won the election in 1960 if the Outfit in Chicago, and Landslide Lyndon in Texas, hadn’t stuffed sufficient ballots to win Illinois and Chicago.
The lawsuit that is contemplated is welcome news. It will be interesting to see what relief will be asked for when the paper is filed.
Germany outlawed electronic voting machines in a 2009 ruling from the Constitutional Court. The press release is here–
A translation of the court’s decision is here–
The Ohio State University Law School has a website that keeps up to date on election law and election lawsuits around the country, and is a good resource–
Time goes by very quickly. Back in 2004, when I began to complain about electronic voting machines and the federal Help America Vote Act [sic], I was asked by a man who was active in an organization that advocated for minority rights to look into it. The ethnic group was actually a majority of the population of San Antonio, but on some subject areas, they had a point. He then said they would like to go ahead with a lawsuit, so I worked up the document to file and would do it pro bono (for free). Then I was told that the County Commissioners, which is the governing group for the county, offered them some money “to educate” that community about the voting machines, and so they decided not to do a lawsuit after all.
Then before the 2008 general election, I did an editorial and submitted it to the San Antonio newspaper about the electronic voting machines. The person in charge of the editorial page that week accepted it and told me it would be published. She called me later to say that a person higher up at the newspaper had spiked it and ordered that it not be published, because it was “too controversial”.
The Help American Vote Act (HAVA), Public Law 107-252, was signed into law by president Bush jr. in October 2002. That devious and diabolical piece of legislation tries to put electronic voting machines everywhere in every state.
If Donald Trump actually receives the Republican Party’s nomination at its convention, his main opponents in the general election will be electronic voting machines and the tabulating computers.
I’m afraid the real problem here is that chart. Clinton’s CNN exit poll numbers in Virginia were 57% of men (43% of the electorate), and 70% of women (57% of the electorate). Unless my math is off (possible), that gives her around 64.5% overall vs. the 62.2% reported by “Trust-vote,” and right in line with next-day totals. On Georgia, the actual number is 72%, not 64.8%, again right in line with the result. The Alabama numbers are obviously inaccurate, since she exit-polled 73% of men and 80% of women, while the chart has her at 70.6%.
A return to Legal Paper Ballots and hand counting of the Legal Paper Ballots would remove from existence the problems that were engineered into existence with the invention of digital fraud-based electronic voting and/or counting.
Would not a candidates name be the same in either language? (Ballot propositions would of course be a problem)