Zelenskyy Vows No Let Up as Ukraine Says Troops Cross Key River in Northeast | Newsmax.com
Comment My compliments to Russian IO, recruited agents of influence and “running dogs.” You all ae doing a great job of “keeping your pecker (nose) up.” You are doing a lot better job than the RA and auxiliaries are doing in Ukraine. I don’t know how many target platforms you are working, but I receive ten times as many draft comments as the number that I let be published. Kudos.
“Considered a relatively risky operation, requiring discipline to keep from turning into a disorganized rout or at the very least doing severe damage to the military‘s morale.”” wiki
I have read that the Russian forces on the Kherson Front are considering withdrawing to new positions to their rear. They should think that through clearly. A withdrawal under combat conditions before an enemy that has recently tasted victory and is full of “piss and vinegar” is the most severe test of the discipline and unit cohesion of the withdrawing force.
This could easily become another route. pl
This came from a friend who vaguely reminds me of Buffy, my old love. It could be Iffy the Jiffy Buttercup lady though. My mom called her Fluffy behind her back. Not nice. Wanted me to save it for the Altar. My mom was my mom.
https://mynews4.com/news/local/secretly-sent-weapons-grade-plutonium-removed-from-nevada
The madhatter of McNukus Louis Crane (Peter Zeihan – Nukes and Ukraine).
https://youtu.be/eH-UtO9clvc
Other news was a Miss Sills Aria sung in the Miss sinnity of a western powwower plant of Yorrick I knew him well Horatio.
Russian Strike Damages Hydroelectric Station Near 2nd Nuclear Site
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/09/19/world/ukraine-russia-war
US-NATO escalation in Ukraine risks nuclear war
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/09/19/pers-s19.html
Excerpt:
In fact, the US goals go much further. In the wake of the collapse of Russian forces in northern Ukraine, a mood of euphoria and triumphalism has taken hold in the US political establishment. The American ruling class is determined to press the offensive.
This was expressed in a front-page article by New York Times national security reporter David Sanger, who serves as a semi-official conduit for statements by the US military and intelligence apparatus.
Under the headline, “Ukraine Wants the U.S. to Send More Powerful Weapons. Biden Is Not So Sure,” Sanger and his three coauthors write:
American officials believe they have, so far, succeeded at “boiling the frog” — increasing their military, intelligence and economic assistance to Ukraine step by step, without provoking Moscow into large-scale retaliation with any major single move.
They say that Mr. Putin almost certainly would have pushed back hard if Washington had, at the outset of the war, provided Ukraine with the kind of support it is getting now, such as intelligence that has allowed Ukraine to kill Russian generals and target arms depots, tanks and Russian air defenses with precision-guided rocket attacks.
The Times article is significant in a number of respects. First, it is another acknowledgement that the US has been directing this war from the very beginning, indeed before the beginning. It provoked the Russian invasion of Ukraine in February by systematically arming Ukraine and encouraging its plans, officially adopted last year, to retake Crimea by military means.
At every point in the nearly seven-month conflict, the US has opposed any attempt at a negotiated settlement, while funneling ever more advanced weaponry into the conflict. The transformation of the Ukrainian army into a wholly owned subsidiary of the Pentagon has reached such a point that US military strategists are beginning to worry that it is depleting the capacities of the American military itself.
This is what Sanger means by “boiling the frog.” American imperialism has taken advantage of the fact that Ukraine is not formally part of NATO to wage its war against Russia without, as of yet, leading to a direct conflict between Russia and NATO itself.
However, the claim that the US is not at war with Russia is a legal fiction. The Ukrainian military has been turned into the equivalent of a mercenary force for US imperialism that is armed, trained and directed into battle by US generals. As far as American imperialism is concerned, it is willing to fight to the last Ukrainian, with upward of 1,000 dying every day in the bloody conflict. They are being used as cannon fodder.
Second, however, Sanger makes clear that the debacle of the Russian military in Kharkiv is being seized on to escalate even further. The “more powerful weapons” referred to in the headline are ATACMS missiles, which can strike over 100 miles into Russian territory. Russian officials have stated that the provision of these weapons would be a “red line,” making the US a party to the conflict.
The article declares that Biden is “resisting” demands in the military, intelligence apparatus and Congress to officially provide the ATACMS. This, in the language of US politics, means the decision has already been made, with the Times serving as a mechanism for conditioning public opinion for the inevitable overcoming of “resistance.”
The American ruling class appears to believe that its ever more belligerent escalation of the conflict, combined with brutal economic sanctions, will compel a section of the Russian oligarchy to conclude that its interests will be better served by cooperating with US efforts to dominate Russia’s resources.
But the crisis can also lead to the strengthening of ultranationalist elements of the Russian political establishment, who are demanding that Russia respond forcefully to the US offensive, either by introducing conscription, launching missile attacks on NATO weapons hubs outside Ukraine or even using nuclear weapons.
The latter possibility is made all the more likely by the statements coming out of US ruling circles that the ultimate aim of the war over Ukraine is the dismantling of Russia itself.
Last week, former US Army Europe Commander Ben Hodges declared in an article in the Telegraph that the US is “witnessing the beginning of the end—not only of [Putin’s] regime, but of the Russian Federation itself.” This, in fact, has been the ultimate goal of American imperialism: to break up Russia and open its vast natural resources to the direct exploitation and looting of American corporations.
F’nL; Sometimes I react on intuition, life experience, common sense. My reaction to your post is “too far, too fast”. Let’s see first how Ukraine does in Kherson and south. Don’t count your chickens etc., let’s wait and see how the European public (Germany) reacts to no heat and no jobs. My thoughts on the ultra nationalists (are there any other? Gasp, ultras want their country to continue, how extreme) have doubt. They may call for a UMD but will young Russian men go to war these days. The days of 3MM men Russian armies pulverizing all b/f them may be over? Calling for a Russian draft may expose another change in the Russian body politic … “hell no, we won’t go’.
The Ukrainian would be unable to cover their frontline with 500,000 Russian infantry supported by some BTGs from the professional army from Kharkiv and northwards to Tjenihiv. Ditto with 300,000 extra inf. in the south. The Russians would have the numbers and the equipment advantage. Just the presents of the Russian inf. in the north would change the balance of power in other areas of the front. They would not even have to move into Ukraine.
Right now, the advantage for Ukraine is that everything is concentrated in the south. They can leave the rest of the border area to the border guards, some of the less useful militia plus some recon groups from the army.
“…with 500,000 Russian infantry supported by some BTGs from the professional army from Kharkiv and northwards to Tjenihiv.”
Where are they?
https://twitter.com/trenttelenko/status/1571943390585188352?s=21
There appear to be several reports that the Ukrainian military is east of the river. The above linked thread notes that Ukraine could quickly put up a rail bridge and move supplies across.
Are the Russian military gonna refight to get back the territory they just lost? It is more likely that the weakness exposed over the past several months is now catching up and as Col. Lang notes we may see a rout instead.
“…to break up Russia and open its vast natural resources to the direct exploitation and looting of American corporations.”
This is what was said in the lead up to the war in Iraq on false pretenses. As it turned out American corporations did not get the expected share of the “loot”. The same was said in Afghanistan. IMO, the purpose of US support to Ukraine has nothing to do with exploiting resources. But, instead to roll back Russian threat to eastern Europe and have the Russians oust Putin.
There’s a strong corner who claim that the US provoked Russia. However, there was also Russian influence operations in Ukraine too. At the end of the day Putin invaded Ukraine as he believed his military would romp home in a quick victory. What he didn’t count on was Ukrainian resolve and the ability of the west to arm the Ukrainian military. It is they who have fought the Russian military to a standstill and have for now at least gained the initiative on the battlefield. They deserve the credit for their current military success. If the Russian military either withdraw or are beaten down west of the river in Kherson, again the credit is due the Ukrainian armed forces.
blue peacock,
Yup. Who wants the tough slog of extracting natural resources and the commodity pricing cycle? When the easy money is right here in DC!
We borrowed a few trillion dollars from our great-grandkids for the Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria boondoggles. The big bucks were made right here in the USA with no effort. Just the right connections. All recycled through the entire value chain from political contributions, K St lobbyists, the Beltway Bandits, the media complex, et al. Way way easier money making at scale. No resource project will get you that kinda return on investment.
Remember the billion dollars for firing a Ukrainian prosecutor. Of course borrowed from the grandkids but Biden got a piece of that through Hunter who was an expert on the board of Burisma – an oligarch owned Ukrainian business conglomerate.
This idea that we like to blow up shit around the world for some natural resource concession is absurd when the easiest money is borrowing from future generations and spreading it around our ruling elite.
Now the question is why do our neocons love blowing up shit all around the world? That’s worth some first hand research.
Colonel
Fourth and Long’s comment above exactly reflects my own concerns expressed here that the exposure of the weakness of Russia’s conventional military will embolden the inheritors of Brzezinski’s project to weaken and eventually destroy Russia. I also strongly agree with F&L’s concern that this could backfire spectacularly with Putin being ousted by an ultranationalist military leadership willing to use all means to stop the frog boiling exercise. Another defeat on the ground in Ukraine would make this all the more likely IMO. My reading of Russian sources suggests there are genuinely held concerns that Russia is fighting an existential war. Aleksandr Dugin made this plain in an article on September 15th, for example.
Russia is indeed a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma and none of us here can properly judge the relative strengths of the liberals, oligarchs, ultranationalists or of any other faction there. However, should we end up in such a scenario (ultranationalists take power) what would they have to do to demonstrate that they intend to take us all with them if the frog boiling does not stop – nuke an uninhabited island somewhere perhaps?
https://tsargrad.tv/articles/nachinaetsja-glavnaja-statja-aleksandra-dugina_625556 (in Russian)
Barbara Ann,
“… to weaken and eventually destroy Russia.”
That’s been a project for generations. How long (and how much) did Nucland and Co. spend funding the reformation of Ukraine’s government and to what purpose? “The Great Game” it was once called?
Barbara Ann,
I think this is very well presented. By Tatiana Stanovaya who has very good sources inside Ru such as such sources can be said to exist. She’s widely respected and has an expensive insider’s newsletter. I purchased acopy last yr one month and it was analytical but on the qualitative side, balanced and showed comprehension of the internal competing forces and clans that you’d hope for for $250. I usually don’t read this publication but her name caught my eye.
What Russia’s Elites Think of Putin Now
The president successfully preserved the status quo for two decades. Suddenly, he’s turned into a destroyer.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/09/19/russia-ukraine-war-putin-elite-public-opinion/
I agree with “Fourth and Long” as to US motivations and the calculation involved since 2014 (and probably well before, but more covertly). Our involvement with Russia since we first smelt blood in the water under Gorby has always been to dismantle Russia into impotent statelets, all the better to own the resources of the “Heartland”.
As to Ukraine, our public has been largely brainwashed and practices uncritical groupthink about “Putin” as the avatar of evil and enemy of Democracy while brave Ukraine is on the front lines of the defense of Democracy. This is preposterous and a fable concocted by use. Ukraine is and has been anything but a Democracy, but it’s a fine tale to tell the credulous public.
We’re now at the point where it may appear the realization of our dream is in sight and we’ll be tempted to double down now that we’ve got them on the run. We may think that all we have to do now is “kick in the door and the whole rotten edifice will collapse” We’re not the first ones of course to nurture these ideas and others before us have come closer to the brass ring, but failed. This could be very dangerous for everyone involved if events spiral out of control.
I see Zelinsky has upgraded to the tacticool hoodie. Winter is coming and all that.
“severe test of the discipline and unit cohesion of the withdrawing force.”
The Russians sure didn’t show much of either in the last six months. If they were leaving shouldn’t they have gotten out long ago? If they are staying shouldn’t they have counter-attacked, somewhere, anywhere? They didn’t get that many aircraft shot up in the raids mentioned here weeks ago, so where is the vaunted RU AF?
“Russian IO, recruited agents of influence and “running dogs.””
Let me see if I have my categories correct.
Russian IO: RT, Southfront, World SocialistWS, Fifth column US, EU propagandists ?..
Recruited Agents of Influence: Rabidly Russian Commenters, Saker (Andrei, Pepe..) ?..
Running Dogs: Moon of Alabama, Naked Capitalism ?..
“former US Army Europe Commander Ben Hodges declared in an article in the Telegraph that the US is “witnessing the beginning of the end—not only of [Putin’s] regime, but of the Russian Federation itself.”” good
First I want to thank Colonel Lang, TTG, Leith, Barbara Ann, Fourth and Long, Fred, Deap and the other commenters here who are educating me daily.
To recap why I comment the way I do, from my art:
The Jaguar has climbed down the Tree of Life from Heaven
He sits in NATO
Juptiter has unleashed Mars, under the guise of Saturn
Power flows from the skies
The art of military leadership will deliver the future
The world we knew until recently is being stolen from us. The actions of our enemies have been underway for decades, to destroy Western Civilization, it’s societies, and destroy it as an economic powerhouse. Get ready to fight.
I don’t know that tradition very well but I have been awed watching Jaguars dive into South America’s rivers and emerge with gigantic reptilian creatures similar to what to me is a crocodile. In commentaries to the book of Job it is speculated about the identify of Leviathan. Some say a whale, some a crocodile, but it seems to be a beast from the sea or waters. Maybe your heavenly Jaguar is here to fish an awesome monster from the depths.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job%2041&version=KJV
41 Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down?
2 Canst thou put an hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a thorn?
3 Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee?
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24 His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone.
25 When he raiseth up himself, the mighty are afraid: by reason of breakings they purify themselves.
26 The sword of him that layeth at him cannot hold: the spear, the dart, nor the habergeon.
27 He esteemeth iron as straw, and brass as rotten wood.
28 The arrow cannot make him flee: slingstones are turned with him into stubble.
29 Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear.
30 Sharp stones are under him: he spreadeth sharp pointed things upon the mire.
31 He maketh the deep to boil like a pot: he maketh the sea like a pot of ointment.
32 He maketh a path to shine after him; one would think the deep to be hoary.
33 Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear.
34 He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.
No sooner did Colonel Lang post this but 15 minutes later in my YouTube feed what appeareth?
Полина Гагарина и Аида Николайчук – Колыбельная
Polina Gagarina and Aida Nikolaichuk – Lullaby.
https://youtu.be/asmYjpiY8BI
The artists are Russian and Ukrainian, respectively.
Here is Anastasia Slanevskaya (Stage name Слава : Glory) singing in 2017 the huge hit by the Ukrainian pop star group Trio Виа Гра (Via Gra) of 2014 titled Перемирие (Peremiriya – Truce Or An End to the Fighting.
https://youtu.be/RH9tsgkaGiA
The background is from Slava’s vision she once wrote she experienced while in Volgograd at the Mamaev Kurgan where there is the eternal flame and the great statuary monument: Родина-мать зовет (The Motherland Calls)
When I heard her sing for the first time I knew she was that statue come to life and her Microphone was the statue’s Sword. A few years later I read her account of her vision which she published in notes about another song of hers. In the middle of the word Перемирие you can find the word Мир – peace, the world, the universe. Mir. Is it related to the word Mirror?
Wars can go on a long long time. The US shock and awe thing was always BS. Taliban proved waiting it out, picking soft targets with brown lamp wire and cheap fertilizer really does work. Quite well in fact. Just takes time.
Boomers want their Japanese surrender. Well that ain’t happening. Taliban didn’t even have resources. They kept fighting and won. Russia has mad stacks of resources and wait there’s more! They have FRIENDS.
I am a retired US combat officer. But according to many on here I’m an idiot, crazy, lunatic for saying these thing despite living it for over 20 years. Call me what you want but I will call it how I see it. This is not ending anytime soon.
Well said,
Its suprising how little insight people have especially in regard to the Russian psyche. one has to only reflect on the unimaginable losses in the first few months of operation Barbarossa and the willingness of the people to keep fighting. I am aware that the ideology that was prevelant at the time is no longer the driving force it once was but then as is now there was the same ‘backs against the wall’ scenario.
Imagining everything will be over because of a loss of national prestige due to the recent Ukrainian successes reminds me of the same sentiment during the first few months of the Soviet-Finnish winter war.
Yes this is an entirely different war but history should be a reminder still….
Babeltuap
I read and re re read everything you write. I consider deeply all of your thoughts. I have great respect for you. I agree with you that “This is not ending anytime soon.” I think we are entering a new “historic” age. The age of nations, “supposedly” working together is passing. This next age will be more in line with previous ages. Empires rise and fall, ipso facto.
Zelenskyy has put on weight.
Prior to the 1917 spelling reforms, Миръ meant “peace”, whilst Мiръ meant “world or universe”. It has its origins in proto-Slavic. Mirror comes from Latin via French. In Latin miror meant “wonder at”.
Thanks. I’m working on adler and adeler and adelaar as Eagle in German and Dutch. Yandex translate gives for Adel (Latin) > Mainz (English).
I thought oh, makes sense Mainz was an important fort town in the Roman part of Germany ages ago. I can’t get Mainz out of Google translate for Adel for the life of me. But I might continue trying.
But then it occurred to me that this is 2022 or MMXXII and I thought of the old MX missile. And that is a joke of course as is the subconscious mind.
Yes, I discovered Aquila and quill and qui and ill and didn’t even think of Tequila. Or tela qui which might mean who’s body or how’s buddy or bad guy but that would mean mixing Russian (tela) with qui (oh no not key?) Which is Spanish or french and in school you can’t do such things.
If you suggest that translation apps are terribly buggy and in need of updating which goes on behind the scenes and recall Hilary Clinton’s reset button translation faux pas, I wholeheartedly agree. But wasn’t her assistant’s mistranslation a mild insult, hmm, the newspapers told us what to think though – how unprofessional.
But how might translation apps which are constantly updated behind the scenes be used to advantage? Oh, shouldn’t have said that. TTG and Colonel Lang are not likely to post this message now, and there is merit to that point of view without doubt.
If Aedele or whatever the latin official’s or insignia’s name .. but off I go to Mina Z if she’s in, or imazen or ima zen. Yes imazen dat. Wait, what’s karusshunnn for Minter? Don’t flip an M.
I believe the direct translation for, “Tequila” is To Kill Ya. I’ve worked this one through many times, so yes, I’m quite sure..
I still can’t understand how so many people don’t get it that the same people who tried impeaching Trump for questioning Ukrainan corruption are the same ones pushing Zelensky as some second coming of Churchill, just because it’s gone kinetic. The same people who spent four years blaming Trump on the Russians. The same people who have spent the last twenty, if not the last forty years, blowing up other countries and bankrupting this one, to line their own pockets and the other thieves and parasites around DC, New York and London.
The same people who will have the dirtiest hands, when the dollar blows up, the states have to issue their own currencies and foreign policy goes to between California and Texas.
It might be interesting following the various ins and outs of this war, but I’m not buying any bridges from either side.
The Second US Civil War. Who will win?
https://youtu.be/5JDLrSRROC8
Top shelf. I had to pause it several times to read the texts he presents which signify subtopic sections and historical analogies. Best thing I’ve seen in several years. Col Lang and TTG should hopefully watch when time allows and return to their discussion of the probabilities of CW2.x
And, I agree with what you said. They are best described briefly by unprintable words. Maybe, hopefully, this video will shed light on how these particular barbarians of your post arose and their overall significance.
Not sure what your point is.
Assuming all you said was true, does that somehow make this invasion right ?
I’m not having it. I know I’m reaching far beyond, but: One nation, under God, Gods, and Goddesses. Absolute universal conscription, all in. One world to win, Empire. No UN/WEF/WHO…, no China, no Russia, no Iran, no N. Korea, allies and resources and dominate the planet and achieve the stars. Just like that. Yeah, all that acid didn’t make me a pacifist.
Polina Gagarina – A Million Voices
Eurovision 2015.
https://youtu.be/Q2gbKglCL5s
Actually I like it more than Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds. My favorite was The Ballad of Rocky Racoon. Little Piggies too. And if you mail this self addressed envelope to our toll free number..
I’m taking too many Type-O transfusions. I meant the Ballad Bungalow Bill, not R. Racoon. Probably I miss my late departed pal Bobby and I repressed it because the memories are too painful.
No way it could be ..
Some news today: It seems Ukrainians will be fighting on Russian territory soon after all, not that it will make any difference to them I expect. The LPR, DPR and the authorities in occupied Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions are all holding referenda on joining the RF by September 27th. Medvedev has just said on Telegram that this will allow Russia to use “all the forces of self-defense” which sounds to me like the outcome is a foregone conclusion and that Russia will annex all 4 oblasts – none of which are completely under its control now. Putin is rumored to be addressing the nation tonight. Looks like the SMO will end – to be replaced with the Third Patriotic War.
to be replaced with the third Russian revolution ?