“And were you pleased?” they asked of Helen in Hell.
“Pleased?” answered she, “when all Troy’s towers fell,
And dead were Priam’s sons, and lost his throne,
And such a war was fought as none had known,
And even the gods took part, and all because of me alone?
Pleased?
I should say I was!”
Lord Dunsany 1878-1957
Well I tell you what Mr William Tell
There is no place left in heaven
Cause it’s been shot to hell
And I don’t know what you been believing
But it is not what I am seeing
And they have been deceiving
You as well.
I guess a pager or phone detonation could ignite methane gas.
51 Dead in Iran Coal Mine Explosion.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/22/at-least-30-killed-in-iran-coal-mine-blast-state-media
F&L,
A pager or phone simply ringing might do the same. Same with an electric drill.
opps..
Upper Big Bend (West Virginia) April 5 2010 . Same year as Pike River
F&L .. TTG..
Greetings to you both.
Gassy coal mine explosions are quite common. Generally poor mining practices and flouting of regulations. Here’s and interesting story.
Upper Big Bend (West Virginia) April 5 2011. Twenty-nine miners killed. Cause; methane explosion with detonation source unknown, mainly due to poor mining and safety practices by owner and operators.
Pike River (West Coast New Zealand) November 19 2010. Twenty-nine miners killed. Cause; methane explosion with detonation source unknown, mainly due to poor mining and safety practices by owner and operators.
I would expect that Tabas coal mine has experienced a similar set of circumstances.
The sources of detonation are rarely found and electrical systems in mines are usually only cabled comms and lighting. Drilling and material handling is usually compressed air or hydraulic. It’s fairly obvious that a spark caused these explosions but the last witness cannot tell that tale.
rw
The methane that is coming up in plumes now in the Arctic and the EAS is a greenhouse gas that will cause a temperature rise in the near future that will kill everybody here.
Thanks Rob Waddell. I think the recent pager attack may have affected my thinking. Since I believe that the true endpoint of Israeli activity under Netanyahu is a nuclear weapons attack on Iran (with the US dragged in) and the Iranian equipment is stored in underground tunnels and caverns, I made too quick a connection between the coal mine and their nuclear equipment storage facilities. I didn’t think the coal mine was a storage facility, not by any means, but rather that the pure terror effect induced by a large mine disaster, occuring so soon on the heels of the pager attacks, would appeal to the obvious out of control sadism of the Israelis and perhaps enable satellite observations to determine targeting information from subsequent panicked reactions. Everything you say is 100% true as I recall from my 1950s childhood when coal mine explosions in PA and West Virginia were reported frequently on the radio. We were in NY State but I recall our teachers holding vigils for trapped miners more than once. Such disasters were the subject of popular songs by Tennessee Williams and Jimmy Dean. Now kids are forced to do shooting drills as part of their routine. The country had fallen into a nihilistic abyss.
F&L,
About Iran. Scientists there in 2016 synthesized five of seven Novichok agents and did detailed spectrosophy work on them, by which I think is meant that they could replicate it if they chose to–this, the deadliest poison ever invented, first by the Soviets during the cold war. What Americans don’t realize is the Iran has built up a serious pharmaceutical industry in the last forty years. There is a brilliant book by David Hoffman called ‘The Dead Hand’ (2009) which discusses Novichok and the dangers of NBC warfare. I think the western legacy media don’t realize just how bad the situation is, east versus west. There is a long-held habit of patronizing contempt in the west for Iran, which is not warranted.
In short, I think Iran has Novichok and the means to deliver it, almost certainly by drone. If American bases such as Al Udeid or the NSA Bahrain were hit by a Novichok attack blended in with everything else they are hit with including the severing of undersea fiber optic internet telecommunication cables, you will have a real problem. America lost military supremacy some time back, when I don’t know, but it’s gone.
Tidewater. That’s very interesting.
Nixon’s tapes contain this morsel — he’s addressing Henry Kissinger, they had been discussing Nixon’s signing or plans to sign a treaty banning chemical & biological weapons. He signed eventually and supposedly the stockpiles were destroyed. Kissinger if I recall was expressing reservations about the idea.
“If anyone uses germs on us Henry, we nuke ’em.”
To appreciate the greatness of that man try to get a copy of Seymour Hersh’s book “Chemical and Biological Weapons.” Published around 1968 or 1969. You will be stunned at the depravity.
And he pursued detente and achieved it for awhile. His reward in America? To be destroyed by the machinations of a US Admiral whose personal attache was the master spy Bob Woodward. (Reporter for WAPO my ass).
Iran reportedly has loitering drones now with a range of 4,000 km. And the Iranian foreign minister is in Washington right now. And the Iranian President said today or yesterday that they support Ukraine’s territorial integrity.
F&L..
One of my favorites is Nancy and Lee’s ‘Arkansas Coal’.
“My god, the rocks are falling
Ten thousand tons on my head
I knew someday this would happen
So this is how it feels to be dead
So this is how it feels to be dead”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_65cX3mOq4
rw
Rob Waddell I never knew about that one. Thank you. Did you know that there was an entire genre of hillbilly music devoted to songs about killing your girlfriend? It was not uncommon for those retards to kill their lovers if they got them pregnant, and bury them in their woodlands etc. Only one I can reference now would be Ruby by the Osborn Brothers. Shady Grove might be another but I’m not sure.
Ruby | The Osborn Brothers.
https://tinyurl.com/t94t29ak
One of my favourite from back in the bay
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=phXTSjRwdJY
Yes. Helen the eternal princess. Why don’t you and he fight over me. That successful genocide didn’t work out for a lot of the Greeks either. Such as Agamemnon being done in by Clytemnestra. Nor do many remember what Odysseus had to do to the suitors to restore equilibrium at home. Lots of others. But Helen remained a princess to the end of her days. A lot of that thinking abounds now.
Didn’t work out too well for Iphigenia either.
Victory sublime
Awaits TTG et al.
But reality
Helen was a survivor. They had to keep her caged so the Trojan women about to be sent into slavery wouldn’t tear her to pieces.
Saint Genevieve, Saint Genevieve
It’s Guenevere, remember me?
Saint Genevieve, Saint Genevieve
I’m over here beneath this tree
You know how faithful and devout I am
You must admit I’ve always been a lamb
But Genevieve, Saint Genevieve
I won’t obey you anymore
You’ve gone a bit too far
I won’t be bid and bargained for
Like beads at a bazaar
Saint Genevieve, I’ve run away
Eluded them and fled
And from now on I intend to pray
To someone else instead
Oh, Genevieve, Saint Genevieve
Where were you when my youth was sold?
Dear Genevieve, sweet Genevieve
Shan’t I be young before I’m old?
Where are the simple joys of maidenhood?
Where are all those adoring daring boys?
Where’s the knight pining so for me
He leaps to death in woe for me?
Oh, where are a maiden’s simple joys?
Shan’t I have the normal life a maiden should?
Shall I never be rescued in the wood?
Shall two knights never tilt for me
And let their blood be spilt for me?
Oh where are the simple joys of maidenhood?
Shall I not be on a pedestal
Worshiped and competed for?
Not be carried off or better still
Cause a little war?
Where are the simple joys of maidenhood?
Are these sweet, gentle pleasures gone for good?
Shall a feud not begin for me?
Shall kith not kill their kin for me?
Oh, where are the trivial joys
Harmless, convivial joys
Where are the simple joys of maidenhood?
Stephanie,
My parents had an album with the original cast of Camelot along with many other musicals. I loved this one although I often overlooked Julie Andrews singing about the simple joys of maidenhood. Another number keeps playing in my head with the rise of Trump and Trumpism, “Fie on Goodness.”
Kindly excuse this being slightly off topic but it’s important.
This is confirmation (to me at least) that my series of goofy comments about “precision debris” were not off the wall. This is the “Palyianitsa” – a hybrid missile-drone construction which goes very very fast (like a missile and unlike a drone) and carries a warhead weighing up to 5 times those of the most deadly drones. I knew this thing was a game changer as soon as I saw a brief demo video of it several weeks ago. I’ve rarely seen such a frightening device. Now you are all invited to reevaluate whatever it is you’ve been reading in our (lying) media regarding Joe Biden and his fabled “permission” for deep missile strikes into Russia. It’s happened and is ongoing. No surprise.
New Ukrainian Weapons Hit Russia Where it Hurts | Peter Zeihan (7 minutes)
https://tinyurl.com/2saymumj
F&L – not quite as awful as one of the many Zeihan equivalents over here:-
“Putin ‘rattled’ by threat of Ukraine’s ‘final push’ thanks to Storm Shadow missiles”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt7AhwuxA1I&ab_channel=TimesRadio
That’s from today! Amazing this sort of material is still being put out. That channel I link to above gets half a million views sometimes. General Hodges stuff. None of the devotees of such material seem to understand if our proxy did develop or get given the latest Wunderwaffe, and if that Wunderwaffe did look as if it were going to turn the tide of war, it would rapidly cease to be our proxy. Or maybe cease to be.
For most of us all this is merely a bit of theatre “over there”. We can cheer our proxies on knowing we’re not going to be in the firing line. A happy two minutes hate against the Russians before we turn to the football. For the Russians it’s different. They’re playing for keeps.
Wonder how we’ll react when we realise we’ve been led up the garden path on this Ukrainian war. Expect our politicians are wondering that too.
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In case you get the wrong idea I should add that as for the de Bretton-Gordon types that are all over the English airwaves, they’re not the real thing. Like absolutely none of the military characters I’ve met in England, and I’ve met quite a few over the years. Please don’t judge the UK armed forces by them.
EO – did you notice that your current Foreign secretary’s last name is a terrible misspelling of “Limey?”
Sorry, as you’ve noticed at least once I’m incorrigible. Nothing personal.
F&L – The Foreign Secretary? A nobody. A zero quantity. As far as the stuff you’re interested in goes.
I believe both the Americans and the Russians – the peoples of those countries, that is, not their politicians – greatly overestimate HMG’s clout. And that of Berlin/Brussels.
In fact even the psychos in Washington don’t have the clout they had. It’ll take a while for us in the Golden Billion to get our heads round these uncomfortable truths.
We’re still pretty good at mayhem, so there’s always that. This is Larry Johnson musing on the latest exploits in that line:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jD5JQ2hij4&t=137s&ab_channel=DialogueWorks
At around 22 mins we get from Larry Johnson further indications that the Pentagon’s starting to see sense. That’s been evident for some time now but more and more are pointing it out. Also a further look at the predicament both Zelensky and Netanyahu have got their respective countries into. Heaps more corpses to go, of course, but we’re closer to the end game than we were.
Mr Johnson doesn’t say it in so many words but I think his assessment of the fighting quality of the Israeli ground troops matches that of Colonel Lang when the subject came up on SST. The IDF must have its elite units, one presumes, but years of shooting civilians is no good preparation for what they’re up against. So the Colonel judged, at any rate.
EO,
I tend to agree with both Colonel Lang and Johnson as to their assessment of the IDF. They have been fighting Hamas for a year now and have yet to defeat them. And that’s with their massive air and artillery firepower. They will be able to cause massive destruction in Lebanon, but their ability to successfully take on Hezbollah in a ground offensive is iffy at best.
Ok this puzzles me bigly.
Video: Drone captures Chinese rocket exploding during landing attempt.
The test, which took place at a high altitude, was part of Deep Blue’s efforts to develop reusable rocket technology.
https://www.indiatoday.in/science/story/video-drone-captures-chinese-rocket-exploding-during-landing-attempt-2604800-2024-09-23