Russia Invading Ukraine is the New Shiny Object of the Permanent War Party

There is a remarkable amount of saber rattling in Washington, DC and the mainstream media about defending Ukraine from an “imminent” Russian invasion. This is crazy talk and is intended to divert attention from the collapsing Presidency of Joe “Dementia” Biden.

The U.S. media, for the most part, is obfuscating and misrepresenting what is going on in the Ukraine and along Russia’s borders. If you look at a map of Eastern Europe you will see that the following countries border Russia–Estonia, Latvia, Belarus and Ukraine. The United States European Command and/or NATO have conducted at least 9 military exercises in countries that border Russia that are designed to respond to a Russian military operation.

Here is the list:

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26 Responses to Russia Invading Ukraine is the New Shiny Object of the Permanent War Party

  1. MapleLeaf says:

    Biden’s handlers continue to hoard wealth, letting the rest of the US lurch forward into a quagmire of inflationary hell (at least for the bottom 50%). If they want to keep that gig going, at least until the next election, they need something to keep the public distracted.

    Putin as the new Hitler seems to meet that requirement.

    I travelled to Kiev and Lviv in 2015, and the streets and fascists were already dripping with rabid hatred and desire for revenge against the Russian speaking east. Most of the people I knew in Ukraine, who weren’t stirred by such sentiments, have since left, abandoning what they saw early on as the slow-motion collapse of Ukraine under the tutelage of European elites that denied any Russian historical connections or future economic participation. The nationalists who remained have only gained in power and prestige since that time.

    With so many actors in the West able to benefit from a conflagration in Ukraine, it seems likely that things will boil over.

    The French will be happy to have further pressure on Russian exports, opening up in particular more weapons sales for them and making competition easier. The British will be thrilled to have a reason to demand a sizable increase in military funding. The Germans will be happy to have NATO forces increase in number within their country, providing a stealth stimulus to its economy, and helping its industrial concerns sell more military components to enlarging NATO forces. The Polish will be smiling as governments across Europe are forced to support them, regardless of how much they rail against and spurn European institutions and diktats. The Turks will be laughing as their geopolitical position will be further strengthened, eager to press their “gains” in Syria further with Russia distracted.

    What can Russia offer these European elites in return (and that is who I refer to when I use nationalities), other than abject submission? In reality, that is closer to the actual demands being made implicitly through Western practices, in the recent past, the present and outlined for the future.

    I feel we will all be surprised how Putin responds, once the West again ignores his rather reasonable offers.

  2. blue peacock says:

    Nothing has changed. The neocons continue to run US foreign policy no matter which party is in power. Yet most folks keep with the tribal partisan and left/right battles. Keep voting the duopoly and expecting change. Isn’t that the definition of insanity?

    • English Outsider says:

      What with the Think Thanks and the Foundations and all the rest of it the neocons have a powerful base. A powerful academic base too, if you in America have the equivalent of our Integrity Initiative. Recently I wanted to see how the people egging the Ukrainians on see it from their side of the fence. Came across this:-

      https://thestrategybridge.org/the-bridge/2019/4/29/ukraine-the-epicenter-of-hybrid-warfare-and-why-the-west-must-win-there

      “Yet the opportunities to reshape the Kremlin’s strategic calculations are clear and readily available in Ukraine. As the rise of democracy in Eastern Europe spelled the end of the Soviet Union, updating former National Security Advisor Brzezinski’s prescient comment for today’s struggle reveals the same opportunity—the survival of an independent and democratic Ukraine means defeat for Russia’s revanchist empire, and that will always be in the interest of the United States and its democratic allies.”

      Detestable stuff. Easy enough to take the underlying premises apart. But there’s such oceans and oceans of it around. The amount of money that must go into producing such material is incalculable,

      And when it comes to information warfare, no contest. In the public arena it conquers by sheer weight of numbers.

      • TTG says:

        EO,

        I thought it was a pretty good article. Sure it doesn’t allay any fears, but it just describes what changes are occurring in strategic thought all over. Our developing Multi-Domain Operations (MDO) concept is really no different. Rather than talking of a state of peace, it talks of a state of strategic competition. IO is central. There’s nothing sinister or evil about either our or Russia’s doctrine. It’s just the logical development to military, technological and informational changes.

        • English Outsider says:

          It’s a little worrying, TTG, seeing us all pushing it in the Ukraine.

          On the MDO concept, a lay question, if I might put one. It looks advanced and complex. How would other NATO forces that are not at that level be integrated?

          • TTG says:

            MDO emphasizes synchronized long range fires with sensor/reconnaissance and tactical level unit actions across all domains. Although it seems to rely on effective communications even if they are intermittent, a great reliance is placed on liaison elements and knowing how all the parts can work together without that seamless communication capability. We did something similar in Special Forces/special operations where disparate and allied units shared liaison elements to enable effective cooperation without constant commo links. Sounds complicated, but it worked even with very different forces with very different capabilities.

          • TTG says:

            EO,

            I’ll add that MDO is not meant to blunt a swift invasion by 50 to 100 BTG. That’s what Ukraine’s total mobilization defense is meant to deal with. Total mobilization, territorial defense and guerilla operations won’t blunt that kind of invasion, either, but it’s meant to make such an invasion too costly to undertake and sustain. The Baltics are using the same defense strategy.

  3. Terence Reeves-Smyth says:

    One ugly by-product of all anti-Russian carry-on is the action of the US in rejecting the UN resolution against the ‘glorification of Nazism’ a few weeks ago. As someone who (like millions of others) lost family members in the fight against Nazism in the last war, I find the US action frankly abhorrent. The fact that some others countries abstained is bad enough but rejecting the resolution is beyond the pale. Especially chilling is the fact that there was hardly any complaint from US press or its citizens

  4. tedrichard says:

    mr putin has stated that any attack against russia will see those missiles shot down, the platforms where they are located will also be destroyed AND the command and control centers from which those orders were given will be destroyed as well. this means nato command centers in brussels, germany, romania and continental usa will become targets as well as all the ships, plane and bases where the missiles are located.

    nato, american and ukrainian soldiers on the ground will be greeted by mr thermobaric and will enmasse disappear. the debaltsevo cauldrons of 2014-2015 which precipitated the west to hurriedly and desperately seek the minsk accords will feel like a swedish massage.

    this imo is what frightens the war mongers in the west, and thus far keeping a leash on their worst impulses….. having the war brought to their front door………say hello to mr iskander, mr zircon, mr nudol and mr avangard from which you in the west have no defense against.

    • JerseyJeffersonian says:

      Col. Lang, Mr. Johnson,

      With your indulgence, I would like to drop a couple of thread comments from another blog – one by me, two from other posters – on this.

      These were the comments preceding mine to which I was responding:

      The big question is, are there still enough people in our so-called “Elite” who understand that a nuclear war, probably even a non-nuclear war, would mean the end of their power, and their deaths on a massive scale. My guess is probably, but barely, and things are not headed in the direction of greater engagement with reality in DC. The arrogance of these people is staggering, and they seem to believe that they are bullet-proof, in both the literal and figurative sense. They will find out differently, if they provoke a war with Russia.

       

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      Wouldn’t it be lovely if, instead of a war in response to US aggression, Putin employed various means to take out US leaders and their families to neutralize the threat?

      This one by me was in response:

      Well, it could certainly come to that. President Putin has rather pointedly suggested that the shit stirrers against Russia would be in for a wakeup call.

      Their military doctrine clearly targets follow-on forces, and particularly logistics and command and control for a pasting in the event of a throwdown. Make those REMFs have a very bad day.

      Another recent event, not yet remarked upon in this thread (or at least the part that I have so far read), is their recent destruction, by ground or air launched means, of one of their old satellites as a means of both demonstrating capability, as well as their intention to make space-based assets of any serious adversary a target. This would disrupt intelligence gathering, communications, and targeting for the US’s heavily satellite-dependent military forces. This “test” let it be known that that disruptive capability is operational, and not merely aspirational.

      Here is one final comment from that thread:

      Just in time for Christmas. The gift that would keep on giving for generations. A “decapitation strike” from the head of that venomous serpent now sitting with razor wire all around it. We should be so lucky…

      Well, some of us are grown quite weary with these tyrants who misrule over us; we’ve gotten pretty bloody-minded. Their unhinged lunacy is imperiling hundreds of millions of lives of innocent people.

      This is where “liberal democracy” has landed us, dread for our very lives. We ain’t voting our way out of this.

      • JerseyJeffersonian says:

        N.B.: the last two paragraphs were written by me, and not by the final commenter cited.

        Thank you,
        JJ

  5. Ran across this yesterday. At the time, of course, we were virtuously denying we were doing any such thing and the US Congress had passed some sort of law about not training the Ukronazis. And here she is boasting about it.
    https://ucpbacalgary.ca/event/march-31-2016-one-canadians-experience-training-the-azov-batallion-to-nato-standards/

    • Mal says:

      Wear it with pride…..so Canadian, pump up their sorry little asses……both my Gramps killed their share of Nazis….. apparently they didn’t kill them all. The up side, should festivities break out, won’t have to travel far to whack their evil offspring

      Cheers Mal

    • Leith says:

      Your boaster, Oksana Kuzyshin, appears to have been an already retired Ukie/Canadian logistician when she went to lecture to the Azov Battalion. Who gave her that assignment? Hard to believe it was the CAF. Perhaps one of the many Ukrainian Nationalist organizations in Canada? Or maybe your Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland asked Oksana to give instruction to the neo-Nazis. Freeland’s maternal dedushka worked for the real Nazis of the Third Reich during WW2, and she has had contacts with Ukrainian activists in the past.

      For sure it was not us down here in the lower 48. The US Congress did pass a law to ban arms, training, and any other support to the Azov Battalion. It was a bipartisan vote and pushed by both Dems and the GOP. And the House condemned Ukraine’s 2015 memory laws glorifying the ultra right-wing Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) and its leaders in an open bipartisan letter to the Department of State. Unfortunately Fat Mike Pompeo ignored it.

  6. Fred says:

    Alex Baldwin has shot more Ukrainians than Putin.

    • mcohen says:

      Interesting comment Fred.Especially for you,unless you have the same suspicions I had about the whole kabonga.

  7. Babeltuap says:

    If he bans FB and Twitter in Russia then yes. Without that no.

  8. scott s. says:

    I have a bias of viewing things through the lens of history. What I see is from the 1600s Poland (or Poland-Lithuania if you will) caught in the vice of Russia, Sweden, and Prussia/Germany. My understanding is western Ukraine was dominated by Polish nobles / Catholicism, in conjunction with the remains of the Holy Roman Empire / Austria-Hungary.

    The strategy of providing security guarantees to Poland by outside powers has never worked well.

  9. upstater says:

    Lithuania borders Kalingrad Oblast as does Poland. Rail service into Kalingrad is only available through Lithuania.

  10. TTG says:

    Larry,

    “Russia, by contrast, still bears the searing scars of being invaded by the Nazis in World War II.”

    You’re absolutely right. But you’re forgetting about the searing scars of Russia’s European neighbors from decades of brutal Soviet/Russian invasion and occupation. The WTO was no picnic either. Even Western Europe was under the shadow of the 3d Shock Army and its compadres for just as long. Those scars are fairly fresh. Putin is not Stalin, but Russia is still Russia. Fifty plus BTGs on Ukraine’s borders just aggravates those scars.

    • Fred says:

      TTG,

      Where inside the borders of the Russian Federation will NATO allow Russia to place their troops? Which Western European nation, scared by the Soviet/Russian occupation of half the country while the other half was under the shadow of the 3rd Shock Army, is giving Russia billions of dollars, thus funding the Russian Armed forces, in exchange for natural gas via a pipeline that avoids transiting Ukrainian territory?

  11. mcohen says:

    lol.they swapped Ghislaine for Julian.looks like maxwell was mi 6.3.wonder if it strained relations?

    • Pat Lang says:

      mcohen

      MI-6? Maybe an informant, but not a staff employee.

    • blue peacock says:

      Notice they’ve buried all details of her trial and the evidence. And they’re gonna wrap it up pretty fast.

      While there is now more evidence of several high profile individuals including Clinton, Trump, Larry Summers, Dershowitz, former Israeli PM Barak, CEO of Barclays, Leon Black the CEO of hedge fund Apollo, etc on Epstein’s plane and in homes in NYC and the Caribbean in the presence of underage girls at those times, you know that it is all gonna get buried and these pedophiles are gonna get away.

      Of course what do we expect when the DoJ have appointed their JV team led by Comey’s daughter to prosecute.

      I’d say it is an even bet that Ghislaine get’s away too.

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