“Pentagon Has ‘Off-World Vehicles Not Made on This Earth’” PM


"Now, a new report in the New York Times confirms those accounts. The government’s UFO unit currently resides in the Office of Naval Intelligence, where it “deals with classified matters,” per the report, even though the unit itself isn’t classified. The Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force is meant to “standardize collection and reporting” on sightings of UAVs and publicly divulge “at least some of its findings” twice a year, according to the Times."  PM

"Harry Reid, the former Nevada senator who was instrumental in funding the original UFO program, told the Times he believes that “crashes from other worlds had occurred, and that retrieved materials had been studied secretly for decades, often by aerospace companies under government contracts.” From the article."  PM

"The astrophysicist Eric Davis, who consulted with the Pentagon’s original UFO program, told the Times that after he examined certain materials, he came to the conclusion that “we couldn’t make [them] ourselves.” In fact, Davis briefed a Department of Defense (DOD) agency as recently as March about retrieving materials from “off-world vehicles not made on this earth.”"  PM


So, ONI is now running this.  Interesting.

I find the statement by Eric Davis to be intriguing.  "retrieving materials from “off-world vehicles not made on this earth."  He works for a technical research center in Austin, Texas where the focus is on black holes, their generation and what use might be made of them.  A nutter?  Maybe, but Harry Reid is not a nutter and neither is Senator Rubio.

I have suspected for a long time that the US has been "back engineering" UFO crash wreckage and deriving great advantage from that process.  Lt Col Philip Corso claimed before his death in 1998, that as head of the US Army General Staff's Foreign Technology Division he had been involved in the process of transferring the technical fruits of reverse engineering to various US companies for their use in developing new products.  pl



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40 Responses to “Pentagon Has ‘Off-World Vehicles Not Made on This Earth’” PM

  1. blum says:

    Imagine that,
    the US has the superior intelligence by back engeniering superior intelligence from outer space? May have? Such?
    If so, we surely don’t need to bother that any other foreign earthlinga steels our wisdom. Theoretically?

  2. walrus says:

    While this is delightful speculation, I have to remind people that negative evidence is not positive evidence of UFOs. Just because some Astrophysicist can’t understand how something was created doesn’t mean anything. He does astrophysics not materials science, why, he may not even be able to tie his shoelaces.
    However I do have my suspicions; Oakley sunglasses are made from “Unobtainium” – a sure giveaway, as is Kevlar, Velcro, Carbon fibre and of course Teflon. It’s no secret that DuPont has a research lab in Area 51.

  3. Eric Newhill says:

    Maybe they are using some of that alien tech to start all those fires in Iran.

  4. blum says:

    Maybe they are using some of that alien tech to start all those fires in Iran.
    Posted by: Eric Newhill | 25 July 2020 at 04:44 PM

    That’s what you voted him for? Tear up the Iran-whoever-US treaty? And then use covert means beyond the known ones to get Iran down on its knees begging for mercy… Yes, no doubt he somewhat suggested he would be better than anyone before on covert matters.
    Thus, why not …

  5. Fred says:

    I was hoping this was just a news release to cover for the discovery that the Shalnuksis’ were gathering up some reinforcement to send to Rick Galloway on Tran to keep their lucartive yet secret agricultural project going.

  6. Babak makkinejad says:

    Eric Newhill
    May be they are using those alien technology to dumb down the Americans.
    Seems to be working.

  7. kodlu says:

    Interesting Correction on the NYT webiste: July 24, 2020
    An earlier version of this article inaccurately rendered remarks attributed to Harry Reid, the retired Senate majority leader from Nevada.
    Mr. Reid said he believed that crashes of objects of unknown origin may have occurred and that retrieved materials should be studied; he did not say that crashes had occurred and that retrieved materials had been studied secretly for decades.
    An earlier version also misstated the frequency with which the director of national intelligence is supposed to report on unidentified aerial phenomena. It is 180 days after enactment of the intelligence authorization act, not every six months.

  8. Seanmcbride says:

    I read Corso’s book when it was first published. Some things JJA said made me think it shouldn’t be automatically dismissed as a flight of fancy. This entire subject is baffling — and possibly of the utmost importance.

  9. Yeah, Right says:

    I find this sort of commentary to be so…narrowminded.
    If it is true (and I don’t necessarily accept this) that the USA have examples of material of extraterrestrial origin then this has huge and global implications.
    It is earth-shattering in its consequences.
    And what does the USA do with that information?
    Well, apparently it says “yipeee” and attempts to gain whatever military advantage it can derive from that knowledge.
    As I said: narrowminded.

  10. JohninMK says:

    Given that the US, plus presumably its vassals, covers only a proportion of the Earth’s land mass, there could well be other countries also in possession of similar/different artifacts.
    Maybe this is why the US has not been able to replicate the RD-180 rocket metallurgy.
    Whatever it was, it doesn’t seem so far to have been significant enough for anyone to have helped them gain world dominance.

  11. Barbara Ann says:

    Yeah, Right
    Do you suppose the Chinese, Russians or anyone else would not first seek to apply any new technology to military uses? War is the primary driver of technology and better ways to kill off the competition will always be of the highest priority. I suspect this iron law to be consistent throughout the cosmos.
    I can imagine a peaceable galactic civilization which eschews war, instead using its technology solely for the betterment of its population. Sharing its technology with other civilizations so as to improve their lot too would be natural for such kindly beings. It would then come as a great surprise that the first warlike civilization to successfully weaponize the technology would arrive one day as their exterminators.

  12. J. Casey says:

    Nice to see Corso get a positive nod, and not run through the mud.

  13. Leith says:

    Did you ever meet or work with Corso? I assume he retired long before you were at DIA. But perhaps later?

  14. Garret says:

    I believe I submitted a lengthy comment to this article yesterday. If so, I made an error in suggesting the average distance between stars in our galaxy is 1200 light years. That was an average for the universe (which has since been greatly expanded in recent estimates). The average for the Milky Way is only 5 light years. This is an immense distance anyway. The closest star system, Alpha Centauri B, was since discovered to have a planet. It is 4.24 light years away and could take roughly 142,000 years by one estimate to reach under current technology. My apologies.

  15. akaPatience says:

    Well, if the NYT published the story it MUST be true, no?
    I could easily believe alien beings introduced poutine-topped hamburgers in an effort to kill off earthlings.

  16. turcopolier says:

    Never met him. Saw him on TeeVee. Hard to see how a Lt Col could have as much power as he said he had. But he may have been an exception.

  17. Mark Logan says:

    aka Patience,
    It’s possibly they wished to make the sprinkling of certain forms of technology appear to be accidental. A wonderful way to study forms of life would be to introduce methods of communication and information storage which can be monitored. There would’ve been great celebration the day the first comm sat showed up in earth orbit. High fives…or whatevers…all around.

  18. turcopolier says:

    I caution you as well against talking down to me. You remind me of the blond cutie on “The Five.” Perino. She is so blinkered that she thinks the space program is and has always been completely worthless and a waste of money. She says the things we send into space are worthless. She also refuses to believe the evidence presented by navy videos of engagements with flying objects. A cute dimwit.

  19. Yeah, Right says:

    Barbara Ann, nowhere do I suggest that the Chinese or the Russians would be any less blinkered where the opportunity to present itself (which, for all you or I know, it has).
    But this reminds me of the parable of the one-eyed man in a world of blind people.
    Blinkered is blinkered is blinkered, and pointing out that everyone is wearing blinkers is not a very persuasive retort.

  20. Clueless Joe says:

    Like JohninMK said, I wonder how often such off-world ships crash on Earth. If the US has such a headstart and benefit so much, this would be very rare, unless the US actually monitors the world so closely it can reach the crash sites first. But if this occurred often, then USSR (and now Russia+China) would have had access to some and have reverse-engineered some techs as well; they’re not worse than America when it comes to that.
    Mark Logan:
    Something like this could be possible. An old and highly advanced galactic civilization that leaves around some bits and stuff of tech so that newcoming emerging spacefaring races would find them and use them, developing along lines designed and planned for by the older more advanced civilization – which eventually will be able to monitor their progress of the younger ones, then more easily attack, harvest and cull them – is the key premise of the Mass Effect video game franchise. And the first version of Arthur C Clarke’s 2001 was also similar: the obelisk on the Moon was a warning beacon that was designed to signal to the galactic civilization that left it there that it was time to come and destroy Earth’s civilization as soon as it could take to the stars – this being a trick used all across the Milky Way to get rid of any future competition.

  21. Barbara Ann says:

    My suspicion is that any visiting aliens will be indistinguishable from their technology – i.e. they are highly unlikely to be squishy, perishable life forms and far more likely to be space-faring robots of some kind.
    The argument comes down to time and distance, as @Garret points out above. Even if one is able to travel at near light speed, interstellar/interplanetary travel takes years and intergalactic travel hundreds of thousands of years at least. The latter is an evolutionary timescale.
    If the whole civilization is on the move, their spacecraft will surely be rather larger than the craft which seemingly appear in traditional UFO sightings – tho I guess we could have experienced scouting ships as the aliens pass us by.
    Communication is the other barrier to maintaining any sort of interstellar civilization. A return message to Proxima Centauri from Earth takes 8.5 years. Kinda hard to keep track of the neighbors when all news is years, decades or more out of date.
    On the off chance that aliens exist with the capability to communicate & travel faster than light (wormholes or some such) I expect any contact we may have with magical beings of this kind would be a very brief and very final experience (for us).
    Yeah, Right
    I would argue that the blinkered/blind thinkers are the pacifists & utopians who do not recognize & accept that war is a cosmic fact of life and that civilizations with superior military technology will always exterminate others, in Darwinian fashion. Non-military uses for technology are of course great, but first one needs to ensure that one survives to develop them.

  22. Tactitus says:

    In A. Scott Berg’s biography of Lindbergh, there’s a small tidbit of how the first rocket to pierce the world’s atmosphere took place near Area 51 (as it subsequently became). If you were an advanced civilization, would you be scanning planets for that very activity?

  23. Christian J. Chuba says:

    “It is 4.24 light years away and could take roughly 142,000 years by one estimate to reach under current technology. – Garret”

    We are already experimenting with quantum physics which exceeds the speed of light even if we have not determined if there is an upper limit. We have speculated about artificial wormholes perhaps there are other means to break the speed of light limitation.
    If the accounts are true and not part of our psychological warfare against countries like Iran, the such craft could be unmanned probes would help increase exploration range. Eliminating requirements for life support really helps and could explain some of the taxing maneuvers that have been described.
    Being a cynic, the fact that the Pentagon is willing to tell us about it leans me towards the psychological warfare option. Just being honest.

  24. Polish Janitor says:

    very intriguing indeed
    As you also noted, it is equally interesting for me that the Navy Intelligence is presiding over this ongoing UFO issue. I wonder when and how the new Space Force would react to the new wave of verified UFO developments…
    Several things that crossed my mind that I think are worth considering are:
    1. Marco Rubio’s interesting and sorta strange reaction to the ‘mysterious un-Earthly vehicle’ that explicitly connected it to China or broadly-speaking giving observers a ‘food for thought’ with regards to China’s possible connection to these
    2.China’s recent Mars orbiter launch, with Colonel Lang covered here on SST
    3.During the Cold War President Reagan had a famous 1987 UNGA speech where he said the following: “I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And yet, I ask you, is not an alien force already among us? What could be more alien to the universal aspirations of our peoples than war and the threat of war?” (1)
    4. I wonder if there are geopolitical and political elements to this as well. I mean, beyond the extra-terrestrial aspects and more with respect to the new Cold War with China.
    5. IMO the best piece of evidence regarding the Alien tech research and the military’s involvement is Bob Lazar and his detailed first-hand account of working in Area 51 during in the 80s.
    6. The still ongoing UFO sightings in Nebraska, Colorado, Utah and Wyoming and so far no answer and explanation by the local, state and federal authorities. The sightings began in late last year and the epicenter appears to be in Colorado and confirmed reports vary from 194 to 1873 (2) (3). These are not made-up numbers and are 100% real.
    (1): https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/research/speeches/092187b

  25. turcopolier says:

    IMO DoD is responding to the growing mass of evidence of UFO reality and the concomitant loss of credibility in the long standing effort to hide what the government knows about the phenomenon.

  26. Polish Janitor says:

    I hope the Trump administration would declassify and make available at least something, anything concrete and revealing about the UFOs. So far the military folks are the first coming forward with really good new information. I would also want to thank you Colonel for discussing and covering these UFO developments. I really like this blog very much. God bless you for this cool no nonsense blog.

  27. akaPatience says:

    Colonel, I wasn’t trying to talk down to you and I apologize for causing you think so. I just find it very suspicious that at this moment of national political turmoil, with a presidential election a few months away that leftists are desperate to win, and the DOJ investigation of widespread corruption of top-level US IC winding down, that the NYT and US military are going public with a story like this, a story that is certain to capture the attention of just about every person on earth.
    While I’m a believer that UFOs are actual phenomena AND that our government has withheld proof of their existence for a long time, I hope you’ll pardon my skepticism about the timing of this report. WHY NOW, I wonder?

  28. Peter in Toronto says:

    This is indeed interesting, and at least partially corroborates Bob Lazar’s claims that he worked and received pay cheques from the ONI at his alleged time at the Groom Lake facility (Area 51).
    But I’ve always believed Corso to be a hoaxter, and I’m not convinced Lazar is truthful either.
    Considering these “craft” travel through either space or dimensions using a physics unknown to our science, it strains credulity to hear they travel these distances and suddenly are crashing out of the skies because of lighting or some feeble forms of radiation our sensors give off (as claimed in the Roswell crash).

  29. Fred says:

    Perhaps this is another example of ideas spring from ‘area 51’. A synthetic material which can’t be cut:
    It looks intereseting, not sure where the grapefruit fits in, but I do see their on-line video doesn’t show any cooling fluids in use, which is commonly used on hard to cut materials.

  30. HARRY C says:

    70 years to get the doors unlocked! LOL
    Arthur C. Clarke: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic”. After eons of witches, sorcerers, demons & angels, gods & goddesses appearing & disappearing, & miracles, one might surmise that there are natural phenomena we can not adequately observe, do not understand & do not have control of. Not to mention raining fire & brimstone. Therefore physical laws would imply that new technologies may be available to us.
    Funny analogy to humans with UFOs: (45 sec.)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhxqIITtTtU (Chimp with AK47)
    Faked, but those guys sure can run. The guys that gave us the UFOs probably ran too. Great ending says it all.
    Maybe we have it but haven’t quite figured it out yet.
    If we can’t understand the tech we can’t utilise it or control it.
    Better keep that cat in the bag awhile if possible.
    We don’t want everybody able to step behind a tree & vanish like Bigfoot.
    Science may soon be taking a closer look at the “spiritual” realm. What looks like magic today may be reality tomorrow. Terms like “off world” are moving in this direction. The Overton Window moves slow but it’s on bureaucratic time.
    UFOs were just a spook prank psy-op to scare the Reds. Oops, it went viral. Libraries of books. Movies, TV shows, documentaries. Steady traffic to Roswell, NM from worldwide. NM has a creepy surreal aspect anyway, aside from UFO/MIC, practically uninhabitable standing alone.
    Went horseback trail riding in NM.(Near Black Mesa) What struck me was how ominously quiet it was. Even the coyotes at night seemed subdued. Rough terrain. In 2 weeks I saw 1 antelope. Jack rabbits, doves, crows. No songbirds. Bad vibes. No desire to go back. Great place for a fable though.
    UFOs are thoroughly fixed in folklore now.
    More USA soft power if nothing else. We’re #1.

  31. turcopolier says:

    Harry C
    Do not post twice. All comments are moderated before final deletion by me.

  32. Polish Janitor says:

    @ Peter in Toronto
    Bob Lazar and Corso are not the only high level guys to come out with information on UFOs. Simply and blindly ruling out and rejecting these guys and similar accounts with regards to UFO encounters and other extra-terrestrial phenomena do not make sense in my opinion. With that being said, I am definitely not one of those blind believers in aliens and ETs and don’t look for them in every corner, but always take seriously the accounts of military folks and especially pilots. The best example is Commdr. David Fravor a recently-retired F/A-18 super hornet Navy pilot who gave interview to The New York Times in 2017 and discussed his numerous encounters with tic-toc shaped flying objects who defied all rules of aerodynamics and physics (at least our current understanding of them). My father himself is a retired jet-fighter pilot and he himself has had a couple of strange sightings throughout his 30+ service in the air force and later as commercial airliner (not America). Also I believe Colonel Lang’s analyses and consider his views and takes on matters very seriously. But again, these are my views and you can agree or disagree with them. Just wanted to give my own two cents friend.

  33. HARRY C says:

    When I click “post” I get a message that it’s in moderation.
    It’s all yours from there on.

  34. turcopolier says:

    Harry C
    Yes, and you will have wait until I get to it.

  35. HARRY C says:

    I don’t follow. I click “post” & have no further input.
    It’s gone from my end. Although longer posts I write/save on Notepad
    just in case, then paste it in the typebox. Can’t see how I am getting multi posts. I would delete if had the option. If you can see what I’m doing wrong send me an email so as not to clutter up the blog.
    Other blogs use Typepad but I’ve not had this problem.
    My main complaint is it’s hard to get paragraph spacing thru the typebox to get a legible post. Preview comes out all run-on like a text message. Have to go back edit & edit to see what comes out.
    Windows 10/Chrome

  36. turcopolier says:

    harry C
    You did it again. Perhaps someone will explain it to you. Strangely, many others manage to make it work. Ii don’t care if you post here or not but don’t tell me what to do.

  37. RPL says:

    Why do you suppose all of this information is being released now?

  38. turcopolier says:

    Preparing for a much larger admission.

  39. Jim says:

    From Oct. 18, 1948, “Flying Disc” sighting near Honolulu.

  40. different clue says:

    I have been thinking off and on about this description of reverse-engineering technology taken from alien crash sites. The only way I can make sense of this in my own mind is to think that these Crash Site Aliens were operating from the same basic scientific and technological concepts and knowledge we were operating from. They and we were on the same road, thought they were ahead of us. But not so far ahead that their recovered technology was beyond our reverse-engineering understanding.
    But I think there have also been other alien presences here straight along. They could be up to millions of years ahead of us, and they could have taken a very different scientific and technological road than we did. They could be the ones behind some of the amazing craft sightings. They could be projections or even more than just “projections”.
    What if some of these aliens have the ability to create engineered and tailored “thought-forms” and place and operate them at a far distance from themselves? What if these alien civilizations are able to harness and direct a significant percent of the energy-yield of an entire star or stars? What if they know how to run Einstein’s equation backwards and compress and precipitate huge amounts of energy into controllable material objects?
    Tibetan ( and maybe other) master meditators claim the ability to create actual quasi-material derivitave constructs of their focused meditating minds. Hopeful wishers credit these Tibetans ( and maybe others) with actually being able to actually do that. They call these things “tulpas”. I found a website about this designed for people like me to run across.
    I have my doubts that I or any other layman can just read about this and then make a tulpa or think up a tulpa. But it may be that some Tibetans lamas or other meditation masters can or have. If so, perhaps eventually Tibetan tulpa-masters may be able to help us think about how to find a way into this High
    Alien phenomenon.
    About the ONI being in charge of at least some of this alien studies subject . . . I can think of another reason in addition to the one give as to why the ONI might be a very good office to do that. And that would be the amount of alien activity happening or having happened in, around or over water. And since water covers 3/4ths of the planet, that is a lot of scope for water-related alien activity, and the navy and other waterborne people would have been seeing this over time.
    Ivan T. Sanderson wrote a book about this once. His own remembered experience of water-related alien phenomena was part of what lead him to research other reports of this as extensively as he could. He felt that what he had gathered deserved writing up into a book, which he called Invisible Residents.

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