Congress cuts funds for Afghanistan

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 "With no perceptible opposition from the Obama administration, Congress has quietly downscaled Washington’s ambitions for the final year of the Afghan war, substantially curtailing development aid and military assistance plans ahead of the U.S. troop pullout. As congressional appropriators put the final touches on a huge spending bill in recent weeks, they slashed Afghanistan development aid by half and barred U.S. defense officials from embarking on major new infrastructure projects. After making a bid last year for $2.6 billion worth of “critical” capabilities such as mobile strike vehicles for Afghan security forces, the Pentagon agreed it could do with just 40 percent of what it had sought." washpost

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*Most diplomats now agree that Karzai is unlikely to sign the Bilateral Security Agreement (BSA) that would allow for some form of U.S. military presence in Afghanistan after the end of 2014, when most troops are due to leave. Along with reviving peace talks with the Taliban, Karzai is also demanding an end to all U.S. military operations on Afghan homes and villages, including strikes by pilotless trones. The United States has threatened to pull all of its troops out unless a deal is signed in good time, but embassies are examining alternative solutions behind the scenes that would enable the NATO-led mission to remain."  Reuters

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Time to go.  pl   

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/congress-cuts-us-military-and-development-aid-for-afghanistan/2014/01/24/3d4cb818-8531-11e3-bbe5-6a2a3141e3a9_story.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/25/us-afghanistan-usa-idUSBREA0O0B620140125

 

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35 Responses to Congress cuts funds for Afghanistan

  1. JohnH says:

    “How Do You Ask a Man to Be the Last Man to Die in [Afghanistan]?”
    “In our opinion and from our experience, there is nothing in [Afghanistan] which could happen that realistically threatens the United States of America. And to attempt to justify the loss of one American life in [Afghanistan] by linking such loss to the preservation of freedom, which those misfits supposedly abuse, is to us the height of criminal hypocrisy, and it is that kind of hypocrisy which we feel has torn this country apart.” –John Kerry before he became a politician.
    http://hnn.us/article/3631

  2. CK says:

    And yet
    we so want to keep the Keystone in the anti-Iranian arch in place. Maybe our great good allies and BFF the Sauds could contribute enough bakshish to the proper Karzais to make it happen.

  3. turcopolier says:

    CK
    The Saudis would not lift a finger to help us in this. We have reached the end of the era in which the delusion that SA is an ally of the US had any force. pl

  4. jon says:

    Cutting development aid seems either to be punishment for the Afghans not keeping US forces unconditionally. That, or it’s to punish Obama. I would think that development aid that night help build some residual good will for the US, might be some of the better money spent. Most of it is probably already going directly into the wrong pockets.

  5. Don Bacon says:

    The BSA even it were signed would be a piece of paper signed by an outgoing Afghan president and the US president who has shown no hesitancy in conducting secret operations. It wouldn’t be a treaty between two countries, especially on the US side where it would count. The US Senate, its advice and consent constitutionally required for treaties, has been excluded in all the US agreements with Iraq and Afghanistan.
    So the BSA kerfuffle is a lot about nothing, in practical terms. Its denial would in fact be a favor to US troops, whose continued ineffective dispersed presence in relatively small numbers in this volatile land-locked country could be a disaster of great magnitude.
    It’s time for Iran and Russia to increase influence there as they have done recently in the ME, with Pakistan as a main player. In Afghanistan the constitution requires a new president to take office in only four months, May 23 2014. (It may not happen this soon, though.)

  6. NancyK says:

    We are starting to look foolish. We are not wanted, Karzai has all but told us to get out. Why exactly are we staying?
    Col Lang is right “time to go.”

  7. Charles I says:

    Perhaps it will be spent in Africa.
    http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/us-soldiers-sent-to-south-sudan_898106.html; and then
    “Obama warns of further military action, if needed, in South Sudan” in
    http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-fg-wn-obama-south-sudan-military-20131222,0,6331405.story#ixzz2rS8hSPyV
    Here’s an article in spiegel about the lack of a deal and German Afghan withdrawal issues, noting French work in Africa and the likelihood of more to come with expectation of German participation in the DOL.
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/german-military-faces-a-difficult-year-in-africa-and-afghanistan-a-944553.html.
    Peace dividend anybody?

  8. Charles I says:

    omg the plot thickens. Who’s paying for these ads, Karzai wants to know.
    http://www.rferl.org/content/afghanistan-tv-ads-support-us-security-deal/25236288.html

  9. Fred says:

    There are plenty of places in the US more deserving of assistance than any part of Afghanistan.

  10. VietnamVet says:

    Colonel,
    These sure are interesting times. The USA can’t afford Afghanistan any more.
    Will the Grand Bargain with Iran be reached? When will the last American troops leave FOB Kuwait?
    The Friends of Israel will make the U.S. withdrawal from the Middle East the ultimate stab in the back; the Final Crusade. Military contractors will grab for any free dollar. However, the financial elite must see that their House of Cards is collapsing with current plunge in the stock market over fears about emerging markets. They need every penny for themselves and are calling in their chips with the Obama Administration.
    Also, something happened to force a 180 degree policy change in the last six months. Perhaps, it was the confrontation with Russia over the Syria bombing campaign which pointed out the futility of the Forever War.

  11. CK says:

    I could call that good news.

  12. Don Bacon says:

    There are currently about 40,000 US military personnel stationed in the Gulf area, with about 15,000 of them in Kuwait. Plus the Fifth Fleet carrier group. And more are coming, there is more USNavy building going on in tiny Bahrain.
    So much for the US shift to Asia-Pacific and a withdrawal from the ME.

  13. jon says:

    How well did it work out, the last time we withdrew from Afghanistan, without any assistance or guidance for our allies? That sure was a genius move. Very cost effective, too.
    The issue isn’t whether there are things that deserve funding in the US. Of course there are many. I will join you in trying to solve problems in the US with additional, well targeted spending.
    The US foreign aid budget is in single digits relative to either the domestic budget or military spending. Remember that most foreign aid is restricted to purchases of US supplies and equipment, so it winds up getting spent domestically.
    If the US wants the Afghan government we spent so much effort creating to last, for the Taliban to not entirely dominate the country, and for Afghanistan to not become a haven once again for for al Qaeda, then we have to be willing to do some things which cost money. Development, health and social aid funding is one way to do that, at a cost far less than that of military support or intervention. Can the US afford to disengage entirely from Afghanistan?

  14. turcopolier says:

    jon
    “Can the US afford to disengage entirely from Afghanistan?” I have no objection to the US participating in some sot of international consortium on developmental aid for Afghanistan. This has been tried many times and has always failed because the Afghans are the problem, but I have no objection. There was a possibility of a continuing long term presence for training and CT before the fatal decision to grow the US presence into a country building military presence called “COIN.” that decision resulted in fsilure. The opportunity is long gone. pl

  15. turcopolier says:

    Don Bacon
    The numbers you cite are declining steadily and will decline further. As for the presence of the “Fifth Fleet,” headquarters are merely planning and command and control entities. No combatant forces are permanently attached to them. The navy has only so many ships. they are moved around from command to command as necessary. pl

  16. turcopolier says:

    WRC
    Qatar? If you mean the CENTCOM forward CP and air base, there will always be some US presence in the region. pl

  17. FB Ali says:

    For an interesting analysis of the US 12-year effort, both warlike and aid-giving, in Afghanistan the following article is worth a read (one doesn’t easily find such a perspective in US media):
    http://tinyurl.com/khjgq28

  18. Don Bacon says:

    Including Qatar with 10,000 military personnel at Al Udeid Air Base.
    It is host to a forward headquarters of United States Central Command, headquarters of United States Air Forces Central, No. 83 Expeditionary Air Group RAF, and the 379th Air Expeditionary Wing of the USAF.
    http://www.379aew.afcent.af.mil/
    units
    –379th Expeditionary Maintenance Group (3 sgdns)
    –379th Expeditionary Medical Group (2 sgdns)
    –379th Expeditionary Mission Support Group (6 sgdns)
    –379th Expeditionary Operations Group (9 sgdns)
    –64th Air Expeditionary Group (2 sgdns)

  19. turcopolier says:

    Don Bacon
    So what? What do you expect, a decline to zero? pl

  20. Don Bacon says:

    SecDef Hagel, Dec 7, 2013
    As we have withdrawn U.S. forces from Iraq, are drawing down our forces in Afghanistan, and rebalancing toward the Asia Pacific, we have honored our commitment to Gulf security by enhancing our military capabilities in the region.
    We have a ground, air and naval presence of more than 35,000 military personnel in and immediately around the Gulf.
    Two years after our drawdown from Iraq, the U.S. Army continues to maintain more than 10,000 forward-deployed soldiers in the region, along with heavy armor, artillery, and attack helicopters to serve as a theater reserve and a bulwark against aggression.
    We’ve deployed our most advanced fighter aircraft throughout the region, including F-22s, to ensure that we can quickly respond to contingencies. Coupled with our unique munitions, no target is beyond our reach.
    We’ve deployed our most advanced intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance assets to provide a continuous picture of activities in and around the Gulf.
    And we have fielded an array of missile defense capabilities, including ballistic missile defense ships, Patriot batteries, and sophisticated radar.
    As part of our efforts to ensure freedom of navigation throughout the Gulf, we routinely maintain a naval presence of over 40 ships in the broader region, including a carrier strike group, and conduct a range of freedom of navigation operations. These operations include approximately 50 transits of the Strait of Hormuz over the past six months.
    http://www.defense.gov/Speeches/Speech.aspx?SpeechID=1824

  21. turcopolier says:

    Don Bacon
    We have a ground, air and naval presence of more than 35,000 military personnel in and immediately around the Gulf.
    “Two years after our drawdown from Iraq, the U.S. Army continues to maintain more than 10,000 forward-deployed soldiers in the region, along with heavy armor, artillery, and attack helicopters to serve as a theater reserve and a bulwark against aggression.
    We’ve deployed our most advanced fighter aircraft throughout the region, including F-22s, to ensure that we can quickly respond to contingencies. Coupled with our unique munitions, no target is beyond our reach.” Bacon, what is it you that you want, unilateral disarmament and abolition of the US armed forces? pl

  22. turcopolier says:

    FB Ali
    Saunders appears to share my opinion. Am working on the book. pl

  23. Don Bacon says:

    I expect that the US will retain troops wherever it has them until either (1) It becomes painfully obvious to the most dense that the exercise is fruitless or (2) When it is forced to remove troops. In both cases the US would seek to retain some presence, however fruitless.
    In the Gulf, reading Hagel, the US is keeping a large “robust” contingent basically for political purposes, to stay on the good side of the repressive Gulf regimes who share the US dislike for Iran. I believe this is being done while over-riding the military, because the military must know that these forces are untenable in any dust-up with Iran wit its large arsenal of mobile missiles.
    Or perhaps the military believes that keeping the military in such an exposed position is a desirable impediment to an unwanted war with Iran. Recall Admiral “Fox” Fallon, canned by Bush for pushing for accommodation with Iran.
    It isn’t quite what we were told.
    *Obama: “After a decade in which we fought two wars that cost us dearly, in blood and treasure, the United States is turning our attention to the vast potential of the Asia Pacific region.”
    *Clinton: “The future of politics will be decided in Asia, not Afghanistan or Iraq, and the United States will be right at the center of the action.”

  24. Don Bacon says:

    I merely want to point out that there is no U.S. withdrawal from the Middle East, especially in the Gulf, and along with that the vaunted “pivot” to Asia-Pacific hasn’t amounted to much.

  25. Fred says:

    Jon,
    Did the United States sign a treaty obligating the US to supporting the Afghan government ‘the last time’? Let me know where I can get a copy to read. The Taliban led government harbored Bin Laden, we drove them from power. I feel no obligation to Karzai’s government, regardless of whether we put them there or not. Karzai and his people can spend some of that aid money they stole over the last decade on their own people. What did the Afghans do with all the aid given them from the Eisenhower administration on? For that matter what did they do with all the aid they received from the USSR?
    I’m glad you’re going to join me in trying to solve problems in the US. I sure hope you can help get tax revenue raised before doing any of that additional spending.

  26. turcopolier says:

    Don Bacon
    Have you ever been in the military? the numbers you cite represent 5th Fleet headquarters, its immediate support units, CENTCOM forward, its support units, the Qatar air base group, other headquarters in Kuwait, etc. These are all headquarters and support activities. they are needed to support a possible return of combat forces to the region. Other than for TDY deployed air units there are no combat forces in your numbers. pl

  27. jon says:

    Thanks Col., and I hear you. Prior failure is not a reason to not continue trying, though perhaps not trying to replicate the same mistakes. Is success guaranteed or likely? No. But the effort should be made. Will a power vacuum from US disengagement be beneficial to the US?
    The Afghans have to be met with and dealt with on their own terms. This is not a perfect identity with US ambitions. But perhaps we should have something rather than nothing, or less. I’m speaking about governmental, developmental and social projects, not military projects. The US poisoned that well a while back.
    In recommending continued US civil engagement with Afghanistan, I’m not looking so much for positive outcomes, as to limit negative potentials.

  28. Don Bacon says:

    I never said they were combat troops. But Hagel did, and I assume he knows.
    — 10,000 forward-deployed soldiers in the region, along with heavy armor, artillery, and attack helicopters
    — advanced fighter aircraft throughout the region, including F-22s
    — our most advanced intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance assets
    — an array of missile defense capabilities, including ballistic missile defense ships, Patriot batteries, and sophisticated radar
    –a naval presence of over 40 ships in the broader region, including a carrier strike group

  29. RetiredPatriot says:

    Good. Now, if we could only reach the same point with that other pesky Eastern Mediterranean country!
    RP

  30. turcopolier says:

    Don Bacon
    “10,000 forward-deployed soldiers in the region, along with heavy armor, artillery, and attack helicopters” OK, where are these ground troops and what units are we talking about? pl

  31. CK says:

    Doing the same thing repeatedly in the expectation that next time the result will be different, the working definition of current American Foreign policies.
    Previous failure is a good indicator that you are either doing it wrong or doing wrong to begin with.
    There will be no power vacuum, the Afghanis will rule themselves as they want and their neighbours will inveigle as they can.
    Nothing is a good place to start, like the way we handled the power vacuum in Vietnam after we departed. It got sorted.
    Free trade with Afghanistan would be profitable for the goyim; so would free trade with Iran, Cuba, North Korea, Syria and all the other axles of enmity.

  32. Don Bacon says:

    Kuwait – two brigade combat teams
    2nd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division
    1st Brigade Combat Team, 34th Infantry Division
    “We are ready to execute theater security cooperation exercises across the region, as we strengthen our relationship and improve our readiness and that of our peers,” said Col. Omar Jones IV, commander, 2nd ABCT, 4th Infantry Division, addressing the Soldiers during the change of command ceremony recently.ceremony.

  33. turcopolier says:

    Don Bacon
    Yes. You are right about the continuing deployments in Kuwait. This should end. pl

  34. CK says:

    It would be a welcome change if one of these spokes-colonels spoke like Richard Sherman instead of Richard Simmons.
    Something like this:
    “The 4th stands ready to chew gum or take names for tombstones and our gum supply has run out.”

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