The statues of long dead Johnnies were easy pickings, low hanging fruit for the revolutionary movements now ravaging the land.
I was in college in Virginia during the Centennial of the US Civil War at a school drenched in the history of that period (VMI). We had all kinds of distinguished historians come to speak to the cadet corps in Jackson Memorial Hall. As an outlander new to the South I watched the reaction of the cadets carefully, curious to see how much the tale would stir them. It did not. They listened with some level of polite interest but that was the limit of their engagement. The fire had gone out even then.
Today, with the exception of re-enactors and antiquarian eccentrics involved in the literature of that time, few people care. That is why there has been no serious or effective resistance to defacing and removing Confederate Memorials. Few care, certainly not "practical people."
But, pilgrims the Confederate caper was merely a warm-up for the big game, the game intended to smash the present social and governmental order in the US and replace it with something other, something better in the collective mind of the revolutionary movements. "White Supremacy" is code for the present forms of government and economy. These movements are deeply Marxist, deeply against private enterprise, deeply anti-democratic except for the Soviet definition of the word. "Government ownership of the means of production and distribution."
The insurrectionists are hoping for a collapse of the will to resist, a PTA moment in which the weak willed throw up their hands and surrender. To get to that point a constant barrage of abusive language and childish behavior is part of the program, something like the way badly behaved children take control of weak parents.
Disbandment of police forces are a necessity long the way.
Weak politicians who in their hearts are filled with guilt over "White Supremacy" are a convenience.
I would give the insurrectos high marks for their progress thus far. pl
“These movements are deeply Marxist, deeply against private enterprise, deeply anti-democratic except for the Soviet definition of the word. “Government ownership of the means of production and distribution.””
We often take a walk in a now almost abandoned office park with tall redwood trees, instead of going to the park path we’re we usually walked prior to the Covid “Crisis”. Mostly private offices. I’m guessing a mixture of professional and tech. How many are going to realize that the office is now a non-productive liability rather than a benefit? If so will commercial real estate have a tough time making ends meet? How many pension plans are dependent on high earning REITS?
My eldest brother coined a very apropos term; “Liberal Supremacy” to describe the leftist tendency to dismiss any other idea or argument to their religion
Yes, The insurgents have been very effective convincing a lot of people that this is all about a law enforcement event that occurs maybe 10 times a year out of millions of interactions. Even those not totally convinced must play along lest they be “cancelled”.
Still, it’s an urban phenomenon for the most part. If it attempts to appear in rural areas in any Kinetic way, there will be at least a minor war. I think the insurgents know that and will continue to infiltrate via the education system.
Ultimately, I have to agree that, as you said elsewhere, there will be a civil war, like the Spanish version, as well something like the French Revolution in the cities. The 2A was never more important. The agitprop even had a guillotine outside of Bezo’s home this week. Funny that a noose door handle is illegal but guillotine just fine. We are past logic, equity and recognition of irony.
Nothing more than a turf war between SEIU et al and the teachers unions against the police union, for the declining amounts of post-covid taxpayer cash.
Follow the money as their covers are blown. Grow the numbers of government employee union members at the expense of police union members.
This is the only way to make sense out of the obvious inconsistencies of BLM, including using “progressive” ActBlue as their official administrative and fund raising entity.
War of the Vendee Perhaps?
Accept this time the Vendee will be much better armed, trained, and motivated. And they (we, if I was young enough) will control the food supply, along with much of the energy supply. And we’ll have lots of allies in cities and on the Coasts.
“The insurrectionists are hoping for a collapse of the will to resist, a PTA moment in which the weak willed throw up their hands and surrender.”
One problem those who rule and own have is that they have been raping their own working class to death for the last 30 years, sending jobs overseas and importing their replacement here in our homeland. How many of our own have died of the White Death? We defended their property during the long Cold War and the second it was over they threw us under the bus. We only have a communist problem, a socialism problem, a marxism problem, because we got a cheap-labor-over-all-else globalism problem in our ruling class FIRST.
Who will die to protect the property and citizenship rights of creatures like Mitch McConnell and Chuck Schumer? Generally by the time a ruling class gets a communist revolution it deserves a communist revolution. It is the rest of us who do not, but we will get it anyway. Our suffering, our penance for our forebears not snuffing out the first smoldering embers of globalism, is just beginning. Those with neither tribe nor nation are easy meat for cooperative foreign predators who do.
Establishment Republicans bent the knee in surrender by the end of the 1960’s after dyscivilizational eGOP leadership made decisions to destroy our institutional right-wing instead of the communists, to not fight the culture war and refuse to let the Republican Party be used as an institutional vehicle to do so. Their default culture is that short term profits will come first and any consequences will be borne by future generations long after they would die with a glass of brandy in one hand and a cigar in the other. The end of the road down which to kick the can is in sight.
The federalism of our founders does not work in a hostile-oligarch-monopoly mass-media society. A national group in a multicultural society either social engineers others or gets social engineered by others. Our leaders have been conditioned like dogs (as have we all) and either they uncuck themselves and reimpose OUR traditional civilization upon the country or there will be no “will to resist” exercised on their behalf. Either ‘our’ leaders lead us, or they will either be replaced by those who will or we (and they) will be destroyed.
Colonel, I believe this statement “something like the way badly behaved children take control of weak parents” goes for both sides in this dispute and really provides an excellent description of Trump as well. He has, just like the Clintons inflamed everyone. I don’t know what good can possibly come out of both sides carrying on like three year olds.
a prominent moderate liberal, here in Hungary coined the current movement “progressive talibs”.
For me Trump is so much like all the New York boor business people that I know that I guess he doesn’t seem different or surprising to me.
For a while, I had some hope in the home school, private school, charter school movement. The parents pushing for them were trying to hold the line against liberal ideologies.
It’s pretty had to work in those movements because parents who want their children in those alternate schools have to give up some of their financial nest egg building to support them.
The NEA has worked hard to prevent those movements from progressing also. The largest school district in our state–one in which I taught until I retired–eventually was able through clearly union tactics to overturn the voters’ wishes when they voted in a school board in favor of accepting alternate schools, many of which would be run by boards of parents.
The teachers convinced their students to march with them up an down the major streets of the district to vote to throw out the school board. I was appalled that parents allowed their kids to be coerced with extra credit points, etc., to join in those union tactics.
Sorry to say, most of the younger teachers are well-entrenched in their stupid liberal ideas and have little to no really knowledge in regard to the actual subjects they are supposed to be teaching. Our popular teacher of ninth graders once bemoaned the fact that when she was grading a set of essays, she didn’t know when to use the word “past” and when to use the word “passed.”
That was the year I gave up and applied to retire. I was in the minority by then and too tired to keep fighting for real standards in each subject matter.
Been chuckling to myself a bit, I figure us “normies” should start showing up to the protests in huge numbers to support the insurgents. Make sure to wear Bermuda shorts and Hawaiian shirts, golf cart optional. The Democrats would freak out and the insurgents would lose their minds.
Prices going up.
Fits behind or under seat great. Sorry about those eardrums though.
Antifa shooting now, Check Zerohedge.
I completely agree with your views with regards to this ongoing situation. A month has passed since the first shots were fired in the liberal-controlled cities against the very fabrics of society, and it is getting worse by the day and there’s no one to stop this Maoist insurgency. Trump used to trust his instincts and act upon them when faced with crisis, like not risking fight with Russia in 2018, Iran in 2019 (2 times), dumping Bolton (long overdue though), diplomacy with N.Korea and earlier in June when he flirted with the idea of bringing law and order unto the streets by force. But somewhere along the line things got out of hand and even the generals have turned on him out in the open and distancing themselves from him as though he is deadly plague. Either Trump is a paper tiger armed only with his twitter account or his advisors are screwing him big time by not giving him proper advice on how to handle the riots. with that being said, I am not a Trump supporter at all and lean more paleo/libertarian, but a maoist insurgency is bad regardless of where it is taking place that it warrants a serious federal response immediately.
In the meantime, the House recently passed D.C. statehood bill unanimously and I believe the plan gonna get in the Senate too. This will change a lot of things both nationally and internationally.
The current BLM/Antifa movement is a powerful tool mobilized by the elite liberal democrats to fulfill their wet dream of changing the nature of America from a constitutional small (r) republic to multicultural democracy. Will it succeed?
Tomorrow, how many NY City bitches male and females, I will identify.
You forget that I expect civil war.
If you are correct, then what matters right now is which way the defense forces will jump. I think Trump has already lost control of them as evidenced by Miley’s memo. Both sides will claim to be defending the Constitution.
I am concerned about who has the control of the software and airpower. F35’s and drones against unprotected infantry is not good.
If you are right, members of the five eyes (except Canada) will be thinking that they may need to make their own accommodations with Russia and China. Taiwan is gone. Hong Kong too. The Koreas must make their own peace.
What are your opinions on the similarities and differences between Occupy Wall Street and BLM/Antifa? There used be anarchist protests at globalist events. Is there any similarity with current crop of anarchists?
Are these mostly “trustafarians” taking advantage of the situation and loosely organized by the Democrats and their media to take Trump out?
Curious what the Committee thinks.
I wouldn’t want to be a lefty when this blows up. More than a few will follow James Hodkinson example and be shooting the soft targets in government from librarian to state rep all across the country, just like we’ve been getting warned about every time a left winger does it. Given the discrediting of government at all levels and voting process sabotage from the left I suspect that will happen before the end of the year. Those of us still promoting voting will get silenced or ignored before then.
“Talib” means “seeker” in Arabic, a seeker for truths of religion, in Muslim context. In other words, a student of the Religious Sciences of Islam.
The bon mot would be Liberal Jihadist. Just like Jihadist who do not recognize any central Religious Authority of Islam, the Western Liberal one also recognizes not Just Central Authority.
I would expect most of the Liberal Jihadiists be from Protestant backgrounds.
There will always be the anarchy of desire versus the tyranny of judgement. We live in a consumer culture that has ingrained in everyone they have a divine right to have their cake and eat it too.
Yet not every acorn gets to be an oak tree. If society doesn’t make some of the selection, eventually nature does it for us.
The problem is that we have a culture of monist idealism, where each side of the dynamic see themselves as the one true path and the other as fools, if not evil.
The problem for inherently liberal movements is they cannot have a program, a process, or then they become the conservatives. So eventually those who do rise to the crest of the wave are those who can best control the mob and the only emotion the mob truly understands is fear.
Though as some have pointed out, this only really applies in the closed loop of the urban, media culture. The countryside is foreign territory to them.
Of course I should I should say that I did not actually know what was in the hearts of my schoolmates.
It would be very interesting to war game a hypothetical Civil War in the United States, beginning with the initial catalyst.
There’s a reason why Tucker’s show is such a ratings hit. His monologues are attracting many viewers. He gets the zeitgeist.
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> You forget that I expect civil war.
We should no exaggerate the current events. There will be no civil war. Polarization did increase considerably. Most people understand that “something is rotten in the state of Denmark” but can’t pinpoint what exactly.
I hope people will eventually see how corrupt neoliberal Dems are and how they try to manipulate the population using BML and Antifa. The inability to find a leader and presenting this semi-senile “has been” is another liability for neoliberal democrats (Clinton democrats, who sold the Party to Wall street and still dominate the party).
I think the proper framework of thinking about this events is “American Maidan”: two greedy and corrupt groups with the US neoliberal oligarchy are fighting for power.
Sadly, Trump behaves somewhat like Yanukovich (and presence of Kushner in his entourage makes analogy with Yanukovich much stronger) , but he was backstabbed several times, including by Esper ( https://thehill.com/policy/defense/501930-trump-was-talked-out-of-firing-esper-last-week-report ) and his gang of MIC lobbyists.
But this country is not Ukraine; it is a much stronger country.
It looks like BLM should be properly viewed as a DNC project, or as the project appropriated DNC soon after its emergence. At least sources of financing suggest that (Soros, Ford Foundation: two well-known faces for this kind of operations).
BTW this sad parody on Marxists (should we call them “black Bolsheviks” or this is politically incorrect?) that we see are just low-level cannon fodder. At the top are not “black Bolsheviks”, but standard, typical for non-profits bunch of parasites and demagogues. In other words, DNC people.
In this sense, “Black Lives Matter” in reality might well mean “Black Lives Matter only till November.”
So not all is lost 😉
As for Antifa, I think they were created and supported to counterbalance the mythical threat of “far-right militants” and, as such, are a group that was probably thoroughly penetrated and even partially controlled by the FBI. So it might well be that a faction of FBI that created Russiagate is somehow coordinating Antifa actions in the protests.
The fact that pallets of bricks and cans of bottles with frozen water were delivered at several protests and nobody was investigated and punished for that increases plausibility of this hypothesis.
Exclusive from Gen. Flynn: If We Don’t Act, 2% of the People Are About To Control the Other 98%
while your interpretation is (more) true, ‘talib’ like ‘al-kaida’ has become much more in public speech than their meaning in arabic. They have become brands.
The destruction of the Buddha statues (later followed in similar fashion by Daesh) was a pure shock to the western world. There are strong paralels between islamists and this current mob.
Two days ago General Flynn put pen to paper. From his words you can see why the other side are desperate to remove him from the political scene. He might make a good VP.
Incidentally, Sidney, his lawyer has confirmed that he is under no gagging order, just being prudent.
These are his first paras to set the tone, the rest is at either link.
“I was once told if we’re not careful, 2 percent of the passionate will control 98 percent of the indifferent 100 percent of the time.
The more I’ve thought about this phrase, the more I believe it. There is now a small group of passionate people working hard to destroy our American way of life. Treason and treachery are rampant and our rule of law and those law enforcement professionals who uphold our laws are under the gun more than at any time in our nation’s history. These passionate 2 percent appear to be winning.
Despite there being countless good people trying to come to grips with everything else on their plates, our silent majority (the indifferent) can no longer be silent.
If the United States wants to survive the onslaught of socialism, if we are to continue to enjoy self-government and the liberty of our hard-fought freedoms, we have to understand there are two opposing forces: One is the “children of light” and the other is the “children of darkness.”
As I recently wrote, the art and exercise of self-governance require active participation by every American. I wasn’t kidding! And voting is only part of that active participation. Time and again, the silent majority have been overwhelmed by the “audacity and resolve” of small, well-organized, passionate groups. It’s now time for us, the silent majority (the indifferent), to demonstrate both.”
A lot of farting unicorns here
On second thought. This too shall pass.
Lots of talk about how organized Antifa/ BLM is. (Soros, etc.)
One obvious weak point of this “insurgency” is transport. The rear engine of tour buses can easily be disabled with HP rifle or slugs. Tires. (Non-lethal). Outside blue cities they’ll be singing:
Will they ride in back of pickups like ISIS? In February? LOL
Stay local? Not enough bodies evidenced by their bussing people everywhere. Full on armed insurrection? USA? How much & who would pay?
+ a little intel. (Where’s their bus?) Lots of eyes along those lonely stretches. Now hillbillies have drones. Big-uns with gas engines that go 150 mph. LOL. Give them insurgents a PB&J sandwich,
let them hitchhike home & finish their degree in diversity studies. Future administrators.
Hopefully a resistance will organize & we’ll finally see who this “we the people” are. More resilient than you think.
But beware that we don’t get the Moral Majority back in charge.
What’s old new again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRLc2O1xtYk
You are the militia. Duct tape or bailing wire whatever it takes.
“Weak politicians who in their hearts are filled with guilt …”
I think that this needs a quick reality check. Any explanation of events based on the consciences of politicians is immediately deeply implausible. Ideology doesn’t even matter for this. Nor any other aspect of culture. The people we are talking about are not driven by guilt or any other aspect of conscience. Such people do not get to the top in the rough and tumble world of the big time (in any field). To the extent that their rhetoric leans in that direction, it is driven by a perception that there is a significant audience for such sentiments. Rightness of wrongness of the sentiments doesn’t matter. (For politicians.) There are people who feel threatened and mistreated by the current system and people who feel threatened by changes. Politics is the working out of those different perceptions of self interest.
Nah. People like the mayor in Seattle have the canker of Leftism buried deep in their inner beings.
We shouldn’t forget what Castro accomplished with 700 insurgents versus Batista’s 30,000 strong military, extensive police and intelligence agents.
John in MI,
“It would be very interesting to war game a hypothetical Civil War in the United States, beginning with the initial catalyst.”
I second this motion. I’ve been wracking my brain to figure out how such a scenario would play out and I’m mostly at a loss.
That’s the best & most important Tucker monologue I’ve seen so far – “partisan junk food” was particularly memorable. He is the one figure I could see unifying Americans. Alas getting him into a position to do so would take years we probably don’t have. His home truths must be making him enemies among corporately captured Republicans.
What you describe is the Ancien Régime; the bipartisan globalist duopoly; the Uniparty. The neo-Marxist revolutionaries have no respect for the outmoded democratic system of Dems vs. GOP, or the Constitution that underlies it. To them it is all superfluous, dead weight. They want to sweep it all away to make way for their New American Utopia.
The Dems are doubtless using Antifa, BLM etc as useful idiots, but they do not seem to understand the fire they are playing with. The Democratic Party itself may survive, but it will be unrecognizable once the extremists take it over completely.
The same underlying forces that gave rise to the Deplorable counter revolution against the globalists has given rise to the awokening. The old system and more particularly the corruption no one has yet cleared out, is failing both sides, but whereas the Deplorables seek a restoration of older values within the cherished Constitution, the Wokes are determined to burn everything down so as to impose their hyper-progressive brand of intolerance on everyone. And so far they are having great success. I can easily see this rolling towards a tipping point.
The Colonel is right to highlight weak politicians as a real danger. It seems most of the Ancien Régime is unaware of the dire peril it is in and can only see the current paradigm continuing indefinitely. To many of us it is self evident that this is the one certainty; it cannot.
I sometimes wonder what may precipitate a transition into outright violence, from which there may be no return. Something like Tucker Carlson being cancelled by white-guilt ridden Fox executives, under pressure from the Woke Terror and with tacit support from corrupt Repubs who want to shut him up, perhaps. So much dry tinder.
@fredw | 01 July 2020 at 06:30 AM
You completely misunderstand the idea of identity politics as pursued by Democratic Party. They key idea is to create groups hostile to each other and thus split the electorate on “minor differences.” In no way this is about working out the differences, it is about amplifying them.
This is done with the explicit goal to avoid political backlash for neoliberal policies of the last 50 years, deindustrialization, offshoring, and decline of the standard of living of the bottom 80% of the population.
And to depose Trump, who personify a challenge to those Democratic Party policies (although in reality, despite his election rhetoric he governed mostly as a part of the problem, not as a part of the solution.)
The critical issue that the USA facing is how to re-industrialize the country and create meaningful jobs for people who lost them. Even if this means to make life more difficult for coastal elites, which are the backbone of the Democratic Party.
That among other things require redirecting of a part the parasitic income of financial oligarchy and a part of the military budget on the support of moving factories back (like Japan recently did) and scaling down foreign military presence.
Including downsizing politicized CIA, while strengthening intelligence services outside CIA, and first of all military intelligence, which is far less politicized and more objective.
The ideas that Trump supports, but is unable to implement so far.
We do need something like a second New Deal. BLM and “American Maidan” protests in major cities (fully supported as a tool to depose Trump by Democratic majors as we see in Seattle, New York, and Chicago) are just diversionary tactics to bury this idea under the smokescreen of identity politics.
I sit here reading reports and articles I find on my computer. I check to local news. Our local university has a group–a very small group–with one or two Black students, which has done some demonstrating but no rioting and no destroying property or attempting to take over property. It’s sad to me how they think they are trying to make themselves more “relevant” in that way.
I watch the national news and become frightened and discouraged; however, I can walk around or drive around any part of this medium sized town, and I do not see the turmoil I see on television.
I wonder if what I am experiencing is called cognitive dissonance. National news seems to be taking place in a different country from the one in which I live.
It reminds me of the time I was a young undergrad in this same town when the sex, drugs, and rock and roll crowd were dominating the national news–or worse the Vietnam war protests were behaving badly and the nasty Weathermen were trying to blow up police stations. Those people seemed so distant and far away.
All I can hope for is that again it will be Middle America in the medium and small town and farming areas of the country that will hold our country together.
I never knew any one of my classmates or work friends in any of my many employment situations over the years who hated their parents’ generation or hated the government so much as these kids do.
I think they all must have had very weak and neglectful parents.
Does anyone remember the woman during the Baltimore riots over the Freddie Gray situation who rushed into the crowd of rioters and grabbed her son by his t-shirt and pulled him out of there to take him home?
We need thousands more parents like that woman. I know my dad would have bruised my bottom if I had ever behaved like these idiotic entitled and brainwashed young people. I also know that because I admired my parents and grandparents so much, I would have never acted as these young people do.
So, to my way of thinking, it IS the breakdown of the family that some speak of that is the problem here. There is the breakdown of old-fashioned morality and behavioral norms.
I do think also that I have seen that same sort of breakdown in the behavior of our Congressional members. For example, Adam Schiff’s presence and position in Congress really put me into cognitive dissonance. He reminded me of a spoiled rich high school boy whose parents’ wealth had protected him from any sort of reprimand on the part of the faculty or school administration.
If Adam Schiff could take control of the House of Representatives the way he did, why shouldn’t all those other young snots be afraid of taking control of the nation the way they are doing now?
I am proud that my two sons are living productive lives and raising my four grandchildren following many of the same rules and methods I set as they were growing up. They are living in middle class communities. Hopefully there are enough younger people like them who will eventually outnumber the idiots who are wasting their lives throwing temper tantrums.
If the DNC is rolling up CHAZ or whatever the hell it’s called today, presumably that means diminishing returns are kicking in. Likewise, there will be the next “event” in this regime-change op in order to keep the heat on up to the election. What will their next move be?
Indeed so in the case of Durkin. Right to the bone it goes. However she has learned the hard way that some in the city council have to be checked. She’s not a phony leftist but has streaks of realism. Probably a good fit for the situation, as is.
I have a project at one of the hospitals near the CHOP (Capital Hill is also known as “Pill Hill” due to it’ abundance of hospitals) so I wandered in for a look-see early last week. It was apparent the homeless were moving in and I was told the biggest issue was gang bangers fighting for turf rights to the place at night. If I had to put a tag on it it would be “kids learning civics by trial and error, mostly error.” Getting taken apart this week due to that combination of calamities. The vocal leftists weren’t in charge of anything but the bullhorn they held and the square foot of concrete they happen to be standing on. Yakking away, only a couple people bothering to stop and listen.
Comedian Russell Brand has an analysis that is well worth a watch.
My view is that politics in contemporary America is about divide & distract to enable the real looting that is taking place in front of us. The societal breakdown is a direct consequence of the policies and politics of the past 50-60 years that continues today and there are no signs that it will change anytime soon.
Chinese faces in blue helmets in USA will be the sign.
If the Globalists can gin up enough ruckus.
World Government is the goal, keep your eyes on the ball.
Dostoyevsky had a good definition of the political correctness of his day, from his very prescient novel “The Possessed” [by devils]. He defined it as “a combination of self righteousness, and the unwillingness to hold an independent opinion.” (They were then as now called “liberals,” the “resistance” then to Tsar Aleksandr II, who had just freed 23 million serfs, created a court system with trial by jury, and instituted elected local and regional governments. Elements of the resistance assassinated him en route to proclaim an elected national parliament, the proclamation physically on his person.)
The only reason that the Seattle Mayor had the police go in and dismantle CHOP/CHAZ, was a radical council member took BLM into the Mayor’s home area threatening to take over her $7.6 Million home. Evidentially that then pissed off the mayor enough to order the police in to dismantle CHOP/CHAZ and kick them out.
This site reflects my convictions about various things. I allow people with varying views to express them but I do not allow people to use MY SITE to campaign against things I believe in.
Our state’s Oklahoma County DA Prater is pushing for hard hard time for those domestic terrorists that go by the labels BLM and ANTIFA. Prater has filed domestic terrorism charges, along with a host of others, that also blend into Federal charges that AG Barr has said those pecker-woods will do hard time for their terrorism around the nation. Oklahoma BLM leadership is whining and crying foul. Those pecker-woods should have thought about that before they stuck their heads up their backsides and committed violence in our state. The Tulsa DA is also throwing the book at those BLM/ANTIFA who went and got stupid in Tulsa.
Like Humpty-Dumpty, I like to make my own words.
Southern girls have something Joan Baez ain’t got.
A submerged subliminal yodel or warble. Early colonists wrote that
slaves sang with a melody & sadness that did not fit classical notation. Before they lost their native tongue.
Connection to folk/country tearjerkers? Now let’s go back even further to Chaucerian echoes: (Appalachia)
Too bad we don’t have recordings. But we have echoes. We have
something in spades other cultures DON’T.
Wonder when they’ll go after the cemeteries.
30 unnamed Johnnies near here at Battle Grove. Morgan’s men.
Does Arlington take a knee?