Sidney starts to talk about half way through this hour.
She has a lot of interesting things to say about how many votes she thinks were moved, transferred, manipulated, etc. by electronic chicanery.
In her opinion the false vote across the key areas; Atlanta, Detroit, Philadelphia, Chicago, amounted to a number north of 5 million.
She also thinks several million dead were voted.
She thinks major parts of the US Government as well as parts of state governments have long been participants in what amounts to a contractual election bending empire operating across the world with major nodes in Europe.
Just used by Democrats? It seems that is not the case.
She is ALL IN in this. Her statements are so unequivocal that she will either triumph or be destroyed.
She should be protected from physical danger.
If the web of corruption hinted at by her and Rudy is real, then our electoral system has long been a fraud and for sale at any level using this kind of electronic voting machinery and software as well as by the usual and traditional ballot box stuffing. pl
“If … real …”
Surely traditional Christian Western European norms of morality and fair play will win out over temptation to abuse international systems operating for many years with ZERO accountability, when trillions of dollars of profits are on the line for whoever might pay2win, especially with the widespread default perception of zero risk of being caught. heh
The inhabitants of the United States used to be bound together with ties of Christianity and constitutionalism. Now we only share an economy which transnational financialists are hellbent on gutting and replacing with something they describe only in the most nebulous terms. The lack of specificity of their vision of our future strongly suggests that they suspect we won’t like it.
Horace
I am waiting to see the evidence.
I I live in MA. I have an old fashioned landline phone and have had my current number since the 1990s.
My son lived in Philly briefly, but that was several years ago.
On Nov 3 the DNC left multiple messages on my voicemail asking me to vote in PA.
A previous head of Dominions software was one Eric Coomer. He is a member or avid supporter of Antifa, depending on how you view the group.
The same Eric Coomer was previously a skinhead when he was at Berkeley, based on ok’d message board posts.
Google Eric Coomer Skinhead and view some of what comes up online.
From skinhead to Antifa? He is now apparently nowhere to be found. Seems to me at least, that there may be a chance he may be CIA and that this may have been a domestic op to get rid of Trump.
The challenge today: how to allow WASP values pass PC muster. They are situational values; not literal values.
How to define WASP values: Thrift, honesty, prudence, hard work, sacrifice, duty, delayed gratification, personal accountability, private property, capitalism, limited government, family, faith, objective moral code, stability, long range planning, reward for efforts, pleasure, happiness ……….???
One can only look at the widening tent of the GOP today to know WASP values have transcended their former literal definition and today are a diverse, aspirational and welcoming concept; no longer an exclusive membership club. Long live WASP values.
WASP values in the broadest sense are good values; because we tried the other ones for the past 50 years.
Here are some sources as well:
https://hereistheevidence.com/
A remarkably appropriate movie scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fbw4Fj-ax8
“Anybody that looks at the rest of this is going to see that something happened, but no one is going to be able to figure it out. That’s your objective, to make it so convoluted that anyone can have a theory, but no one’s got the facts.”
-Jedburgh (that’s Captain Jedburgh to you, Senator)
The Edge of Darkness, 2010
Col. Lang,
I’m very skeptical, if she had something, I believe she would have shown it.
– Eliot
Horace
High Tech neo-feudalism is a good approximation of what they seek. And now they have an open highway to get there.
Sir,
Some people are alleging that there were FISA warrants on all of those people during this election and after, to catch them doing the fraud and then the cover-up. http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/11/were-waiting-for-bidens-concession.html
Like they said, the cover-ups are usually worse than the crimes.
The fact that the Pennsylvania court ruled against is not dispositive. That is the same court that changed the legislative measures and ruled that signature matches and postmarks were not required, so such a ruling is hardly unexpected. The case still has access to the Supreme Court.
This is extremely serious business, obviously. I expect massive social unrest being unleashed if it starts gaining legal traction/looks like the evidence is going to work.
Very dangerous times perhaps for all of us.
I too await the evidence.
There are allegations and then there are requirements to provide irrefutable evidence to a state court that there is material fraud that would change the outcome of the election in the state. My money is not on the Honey Badger to meet the state courts test. Who believes that SCOTUS would be willing to buck the “realpolitik” of the situation and send the Democrat run cities into riots unless there is incontrovertible evidence that a fraud overturned the election results in many states? Why would they risk the media-driven hysteria that they are a partisan court?
The Republican party is not gonna back Trump all the way through the media hysteria. They’ve got what they wanted with a stronger position in the House and likely a majority in the Senate after the GA senate runoffs. They’ll get back to “old-fashioned” partisan status quo horse-trading and prepare for the 2022 mid-terms. The oligarchy have been the big winner and they’ll continue to press their advantage.
Trump is on his own. His MAGA soldiers have shown no propensity to create the mayhem that Antifa did. He’ll have time to reflect on what may have been if he’s unable to prevail in the courts. Should he have hired the Swamp in his term to all the key positions? Should he have used the powers of POTUS more aggressively with declassification? He still has a few weeks to give the Swamp a big FU by pardoning Snowden and Assange. His Twitter platform may very well be cancelled or throttled. How is he going to continue to suck up the media oxygen? The Democrats, could very well get him all on the defense with prosecutions for tax violations. A very interesting question is what happens to the 72 million people that voted for him? Will they remain loyal for another run in 2024 or will another more competent & ruthless candidate come along to capture their imagination?
She ought to think twice about starting in Georgia. Her premise of Dominion machines switching votes was destroyed when the first 100% hand recount showed there was no vote switching by Kemp, Raffensperger or even Chavez himself.
TTG
I don’t buy that. What they did was re-count a lot of ballots, many of which were accepted without proper authentication.
A number of post-election videos, alleging election problems, from Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani, including the SP phonecon with Howie Carr, are in this YouTube playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZlQy6FlDBO0eaaFM_fIUKK5x7oXYDlWt
TTG,
yes, the Georgian foxes recounted the hens and determined that none were missing, just like they said the first time. Hardly what one would call a true audit.
Trump is asking for a truly audited recount –https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-georgia-elections-7bba105439653d530ee8023d54d7ec89
One illegal vote disenfranchises a legal vote. That must never happen.
The most sacred voting principle we cherish is corrupted by illegal votes – one person one vote. All the sudden that illegal vote cancels out a legal vote. A voter is then denied their sacred right to vote, when even one illegal vote is cast.
Burden of proof now falls on the election process to prove it is not disenfranchising voters; not the party who bring in proof of even one illegal vote cast, let alone thousands of them.
PA court got this all backwards – they rewarded illegal votes.
TTG
Recounts are usually done by the same people who did the initial tallying.
How many of these people are going to admit that they submitted a bad count the first time?
If elections were subject to serious audit, I’m pretty sure that most would be dirty or just plain out of wack.
Look at the people counting the votes -low level political hacks and temps.
TTG – Guiliani in the press conference carefully explained why the Georgia vote counting would most likely come up with the same results.
Georgia threw away the mail in envelopes with the voter’s signature, so there was no way to validate or recheck the authenticity of those mail-in ballots once the qualifying envelope was tossed. Hence their potentially illegal now naked ballot got mixed up with the qualified legal ballots. Therefore, the later count —machine or by hand —– would likely be exactly the same.
The issue in Georgia went well beyond the Dominion software counting process – it was their unverifiable intake process that was corrupted. Powell has claimed every possible level of voter fraud was exercised in Georgia. Not just one. Above is just one example of sloppy at best, corrupt at worst election process.
Our county in Calif which uses Dominion software admitted only 40% of the signatures can be validated by machine. The rest must be hand validated.
When you all the sudden have a massive number of “signed” mail in ballots to process, and the original envelopes got tossed, how does anyone get to observer or double check the mail-in ballots, once they have been severed from the signed envelope?
Known weaknesses like this can or will be exploited, so the burden falls on the election department to prove fraud or even incompetent handling of ballots could never take place. They cannot even claim any “mistakes” were in a reasonable margin of error.
There can never be a perfect election; but there are degrees of imperfect ones. This potential voting corruption was off the charts since this was such a heavy mail-in vote this year. When numbers of mail-in ballots, as in the past, do not rise to a material level then one can claim “mistakes” would not have affected the outcome regardless.
But this time? Whole different story.
TTG,
Counting every ballot just means the numbers add up, not that all the ballots were legal cast, nor legally recieved. Just like counting fake money mixed in with real money.
Moving from fact into this recently presented speculation – was Georgia election fraud an inside operation?
Georgia is a perfect state for Powell to start this legal process, since Georgia, along with other former Jim Crow southern states, have been under federal Voting Rights Act jurisdiction now for decades.
“Deep state” federal agents therefore would know every twist and turn, every screw to tighten, every lock box to unlock in the entire Georgia election process – for those who are now speculating this might have some sort of “CIA operation”. The crowd with US blessings that allegedly used to assassinate winning candidates they did not like.
blue peacock, do you want to share which planetary ZIP code you are writing from, because it certainly is not coming from planet earth.
I have long suspected something like this might be going on. I have no idea why one would ever use electronic voting machines.
However I have not seen any evidence so far for any vote switching.
It appears the Trump campaign and even Giuliani are distancing themselves from Sydney. Denying she is part of the legal team:
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/527105-giuliani-distances-trump-campaign-from-sidney-powell
The meme of honey badgers is they are all but indestructible, and that is probably apt. There’s a market for the kind of stuff this currently appears to have been.
Sidney Powell was fired from the Trump legal team today.
A tweet came out today:
“Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own. She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team. She is also not a lawyer for the President in his personal capacity.”
Signed by “Rudy Giuliani, Attorney for President Trump, and Jenna Ellis, Trump Campaign Senior Legal Advisor and Attorney for President Trump
What does this portend?
Trump may be distancing himself from the honey badger. They have stated that Powell has overstepped and misrepresented the strength of the evidence. They say they hoped to work with her, but she’s out at as of tonight.
Numerous sources. Here’s one;
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/22/trump-legal-team-distances-from-sidney-powell/
Here is a headline at the Daily Me ail about Sidney Powell at 7:10pm EST on Sunday night:
“Trump campaign DENIES attorney and QAnon supporter Sidney Powell is part of their legal team after she claimed Dems ‘paid’ to rig the election and said China and Hugo Chavez were behind a conspiracy at Rudy’s press conference”
No wonder she had so many conspiracy theories she refused to provide evidence for. She is a QAnon supporter. That is all I need to know.
Trump should listen to Chris Christie.
“Sidney Powell accusing governor Brian Kemp of a crime on television, yet being unwilling to go on TV and defend and lay out the evidence that she supposedly has,’ he said …
‘This is outrageous conduct by any lawyer and notice George, they won’t go inside the courtroom. They allege fraud outside the courtroom but when they go inside the courtroom, they don’t plead fraud and they don’t argue fraud,’ Christie pointed out to Stephanopoulos.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8975945/Trump-campaign-says-attorney-QAnon-supporter-Sidney-Powell-NOT-legal-team.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8975191/Chris-Christie-says-time-Trump-concede.html
Deap, lol !!
It may as well be Mars since reality can’t penetrate your preconceived notions.
Heck, even Trump thinks the Honey Badger may have smoked something strong.
“Her statements are so unequivocal that she will either triumph or be destroyed.”
the Trump legal team is setting a record for own-goals.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-campaign-disavows-its-own-election-conspiracy-lawyer-sidney-powell
I’m sure it’s a deeply clever move I just can’t quite figure out.
The latest bit seems to indicate infighting between elements of the defense. This is dangerous and counterproductive. All evidence of any sort of fraud needs to be exposed to do what ever is possible to prevent a full consolidation of this corrupt power structure. What kind of future we have will be dependent on this information getting out even if the system is too corrupt to be overturned by it.
pl,
Yes, they hand recounted all the ballots and they’ll do it again. I haven’t heard or seen any evidence of those ballots being accepted without being authenticated. If such evidence exists, it’s on the Trump legal team to present it in court. To date, they’ve refused to do so in any court. Now it appears Powell won’t be presenting the case in Georgia or anywhere else. Seems the Trump team including Giuliani have decided the honey badger may be crazy as a shithouse rat. Too bad. From the few times I’ve seen her talk, she seems to have an effective courtroom demeanor… even though she now spouts QAnon fairy tales.
Early voting and absentee/mail in voting put the kibosh on the Republican tactic of voter suppression this year. Limiting polling places and voting machines in predominantly Democratic precincts didn’t have the effect it did in past elections. There was also a massive Democratic get out the vote effort in Georgia, Michigan and in a few other states led by Stacy Abrams and a few others starting after the 2018 elections.That was key to those Biden victories.
The election is over. Regardless of the blatant fraud, the power of the media to project a particular “reality” is in full display. What is likely occurring is Trump negotiating a severance package: no post election prosecution, winding down of the current investigations…in exchange for concession and not declassifying the locations of the bodies.
The deep state is circling the battle wagons. Perhaps all this panic press is psyops taking advantage of the realization that Sidney was always operating independently of Trump team, their statement is simply pointing out that fact.
Did everyone see the smokescreen put out by Dominion that their machines can not Physically switch votes from one candidate to another. Really, they aren’t full of pens and erasers? I bet their software sure can change votes between candidates. These folks are in as much trouble as Von Spee at the Falklands when the Inflexible and the Invincible arrived.
Harry, no one has disputed the Antrim County, Michigan vote switch – 4000 ballots from Trump to Biden. It was acknowledged as a “glitch” but those in the know say computers don’t glitch; people glitch.
This is one vote switch that got caught. Let those who are working on this unfold their case. “Proof” is an odd word to define – it can be subjective or objective. But not both. Evidence can be circumstantial or actual. But not both. But worst of all, proof is what a jury says is proof – which may be none of the above, but is the consequential determination of proof.
As more heat starts to develop about voting fraud and the elephant in the room — electronic voting machines — activity is picking up behind the curtain, and some people are obviously maneuvering now to disassociate Sidney Powell from Trump’s efforts to achieve re-election–
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-campaign-clarifies-sidney-powell-isnt-legal-team
The best way to commit voting fraud is to use electronic voting machines, and more than one political party, organization, government agency, and government can desire to use them, and will further desire to keep the fraudulent capability of the machines out of sight of the general public.
Didn’t see this one coming- Trump team felt it was necessary to distance themselves from Powell – clarified the status of each lawyer.
Powell is operating on her own and is not officially representing Trump. Or is this disinformation too? Plus anything about a German Dominion computer raid suddenly became very muddy.
The warning about false flags has been out there for several days, including Democrat operatives flooding the Trump team with bogus election fraud “affidavits”. Assumed his legal supporters were too smart to fall for that. So as always, trust but verify.
TTG
What is the basis for your assertion that she is a Qanon shill? This is an obvious left wing meme. Is it that you don’t like what she says? Yes, evidence must be presented in a court room and not at a presser. You know that. I am surprised that you have become so open a Democrat operative. Goodbye again.
TTG,
Amazing that Stacy Abrams managed to accomplish for Biden what Hillary’s $billion+ couldn’t. Abrams is pure genius. She don’t look like it, but damn, that woman is the best of the best of the best. Woulda thunk it? Thanks for explaining though. It all makes sense now. Just get out the vote. Even sleepy old basement Joe can get more votes than any candidate in history with Stacey Abrams gap toothed grin floating above him
Eric Newhill. She got the vote out by getting ballots sent out to everybody. That change required the state legislatures approval and the courts need to decide that, but a strict interpretation would indicate that those ballots should all be thrown out.
All
Prosecution? What would be the charge?
Ladies and gentlemen:
It appears that Powell was not “fired” in the usual sense. I submit for your consideration a theory from voat. I am not the original author.
TLDR: This is not a big deal.
(1) In any civil lawsuit, there must be parties to the lawsuit, and they are called “parties in interest.” This means they have to have an interest in the lawsuit. The Plaintiff(s) must allege that a duty was breached by the Defendant(s). The Defendant(s) have to be served legal notice. This is what constitutes a “case” in court.
(2) The Plaintiff(s) must have “standing” (legal right) to sue. Since I do not live in Georgia, I could not file a case in Georgia regarding voter fraud or election fraud because I would not have standing. But someone in Georgia could. That is what Lin Wood did. He lives in Georgia. He is in the process of appealing the lower court’s ruling against him.
(3) Trump has legal standing because, even though he does not live in Georgia, he was a candidate on the ballot there, and if there was election fraud that cost him votes, he has standing to sue.
(4) Trump’s legal team represents HIM in court, regarding any case having to do with the election for which he was on the ballot.
(5) There are also OTHER parties who might bring lawsuits (in Georgia and elsewhere) that were NOT candidates on the ballot, but they DO live in Georgia and have been wronged in some way.
(6) These other people are likely who Powell will be representing. She can still coordinate with Trump’s legal team, even if she is not officially part of that team.
(7) It would be a good idea, given the circumstances, for Trump’s legal team to make a public statement that Powell is not officially part of their team, and any statements she makes are not part of their cases on behalf of Trump. That way, the opposition (or corrupt judges) can’t bring Powell’s statements into their cases. Powell is likely to be attacking from a different direction than Trump’s team.
Source:
https://voat.co/v/QRV/4129240
TTG,
“To date, they’ve refused to do so in any court.”
Which means they can appeal the decision.
“There was also a massive Democratic get out the vote effort in Georgia, Michigan and in a few other states led by Stacy Abrams and a few others starting after the 2018 elections.”
you mean the left has been setting up the steal for years by engaging in legislating extra time for ballot harvesting operations. You left out the getting secretaries of state and other voting officials elected at the local level with millions of dollars of out of state money and long ties to leftist organizations that were not made clear to voters. (Secretary of State Project backed by the Democracy Alliance and George Soros.)
See here:
http://www.danielgreenfield.org/2020/11/the-real-presidential-election-was.html
Given the difficulty in proving fraud via software I suspect that the HB and crew are going for official’s corruption, from either Party. Which, if correct, could be why the President and the Republican party have disowned her. Can’t be seen to be funding the charging of their own officials.
The HB seems to be going for the fraud election system as a whole rather than just defending Trump. Which indeed, given her standing in her profession, is exactly what she should be doing. But it is in neither political parties interests for her to succeed, making her task odd against.
On another subject, if Trump is indeed negotiating an exit deal then surely almost certainly there will be a clause that he exits politics. If so I am not sure how his 70M+ supporters will react. Very badly I suspect as they will blame the Democrats for the blackmail, not Trump.
Eakins,
Only nine states and DC sent ballots to all registered voters. Five of those have been doing so for some time now. Several others sent ballot applications to all registered voters. Georgia, Michigan and Pennsylvania did not send ballots to voters unless they requested them by mail, online or in person. Georgia did automatically send ballots to voters who voted absentee in the primaries, were over 65, were handicapped and checked so on their requests for primary ballots. Those in this group were far more likely to be Republican voters.
longarch,
I think I stumbled over Powell’s “different direction”. It’s a real stunner – communists… or foreign actors.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/exiled-trump-lawyer-sidney-powell-vows-epic-lawsuit-to-stop-america-from-being-stolen-by-communists/
She may achieve Bachmann-level batshit craziness. Quite an accomplishment.
Fred,
They’ve appealed decisions and will assuredly appeal more. One of the Trump elite strike force’s two wins was an appeal. It still didn’t change the outcome. All those appeals will count for nothing if they still refuse to present evidence in court.
Oh my God! The Democrats are winning elections at the state and local level. What horror! It still means getting out the vote. Actually, the Democrats learned the importance of those down ballot and local elections from the Republicans who did just that very successfully for years.
What it appears Sidney went too far was the accusing of Gov Kemp in GA, long time Trump supporter, of accepting a bribe to throw the election in his state to Biden. She did that on Newsmax over the weekend. Everybody flew off her wagon immediately after. Giuliani, Christie, et al.
In the Newsmax interview she said her lawsuits will be filed in Federal courts this week, either the Friday after Thanksgiving or the following Monday.
Mark K Logan
She was not fired from anything. What they have done is sort out the donated funding and lines of approach. A senior former WH person is coordinating the efforts on several different lines of approach.
turcoplier,
Seems so. She is seeking her own funding, asking that checks be made out to herself directly. This explains a need felt by Giuliani to draw a distinct line between Sidney Powell and the Trump Legal Team.
http://defendingtherepublic.org/
Mark K Logan
Why should they be made out to anyone else?
turcoplier
Now that it has been made clear she is not part of Giuliani’s Trump Legal Team, there is no reason checks can’t be made out to her personally. Sorting out the donations, as you mentioned.