First McCabe, then; Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Strzok, the Ohrs, Steele (in absentia?) Clinton Campaign people, etc.?

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"Federal prosecutors have been weighing for well over a year whether to charge McCabe, after the Justice Department’s inspector general alleged that McCabe had misled investigators several times about a media disclosure regarding the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s family foundation.

By the inspector general’s telling, McCabe approved the disclosure and later — when asked about the matter by investigators with the FBI’s inspection division and inspector general’s office — denied having done so. McCabe’s attorney has said previously that his statements “are more properly understood as the result of misunderstanding, miscommunication, and honest failures of recollection based on the swirl of events around him.” Lying to investigators is a federal crime."  Washpost

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This whole thing has the odor of something by Dostoevsky, C&P maybe?

"Who will watch the watchers?"  Well, if Barr and company are not going to indict these characters, the answer is NOBODY!

If you read the long litany of articles on SST by David Habakkuk and Larry Johnson, the pattern of a soft coup conspiracy  against the possibility of HC's defeat is quite clear.

And then following her loss, largely brought on IMO, by her unwillingness to cultivate the Deplorables, the semi-Deplorables and the Irredeemable Deplorables, this disdain on her part for ordinary people was further displayed in her offhand dismissal of coal miners as future wards of the state.

Once she had lost, the plot rolled on in an effort to make the ultimate Deplorable a failure in office.

It is de rigeur to write that both parties should feel equally wounded by the plot but they do not.  pl

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/justice-dept-could-be-nearing-decision-on-whether-to-charge-andrew-mccabe/2019/08/26/0e1a636c-c840-11e9-a1fe-ca46e8d573c0_story.html

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58 Responses to First McCabe, then; Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Strzok, the Ohrs, Steele (in absentia?) Clinton Campaign people, etc.?

  1. Factotum says:

    Martha Stewart was not above the law and served her time. Good enough standard for me.

  2. PRC90 says:

    Hunting down and prosecuting former political enemies such as HC could become a dangerous habit, reminiscent of third world pseudo-democracies, and one that would rapidly take hold in State and city politics after a precedent was set from above.
    Not so in the case of their apparatchiks such as those mentioned above, who in many cases have sworn an Oath of Allegiance which they willfully ignored.

  3. Dave Schuler says:

    You’ve got the right country but it’s more like something by Ilf and Petrov than by Dostoevsky.

  4. turcopolier says:

    PRC90
    We have to make it clear that fidelity to the constitution is not a pretense. IMO HRC and Obama are at the heart of this matter, but better to scourge them and let them go.

  5. turcopolier says:

    factotum
    Leona Hunsley, etc.

  6. Bill H says:

    Is that related to “looking forward, not back,” perhaps?

  7. anon says:

    Good article just one nitpick.The intials are HRC,i dare say-hotel romeo charlie ?
    HC,hotel charlie,is too forward for the queen who waited.

  8. turcopolier says:

    anon
    She asked me to call her “Roddy.”

  9. eakens says:

    They will indict her after she’s 6 feet under.

  10. MP98 says:

    Dog bites man.
    One set of laws for the swamp (AKA the imperial city) and another for the rest of us (the “deplorables”) is hardly news.
    If any of these traitorous bozos (Comey, Clapper, Brennan, McCabe et. al) is indicted I’ll sell my pair of breeding unicorns.

  11. Fred says:

    PRC90,
    Using the instruments of state power to prevent IRS approval for nonprofit organization status of conservative groups or later using intelligence and police agencies to spy on the Trump campaign are not 3rd world tactics, it’s just good ole Democratic conduct. Trump of course has to live up to the constitution. Alinsky 101. Barack and company learned well.

  12. blue peacock says:

    Col. Lang
    I will be SHOCKED SHOCKED if Bill Barr indicts McCabe, let alone the rest of the miscreants.

  13. Lars says:

    There is no need to help Donald Trump be a failure in office. Many of us knew when he came down that tacky escalator that he was incompetent. Metaphorically, it has been going downhill ever since.
    Much more is going to be known about his business deals and the Mueller report has already laid out in detail both his campaign’s collusion with Russia and his subsequent obstruction of justice. You can be in denial of this, but it does not change the facts.
    The good news is that a majority of Americans do not want him to have a second term to screw things up even more. Even that is that is a fact.
    If you truly believe in the US Constitution, you should welcome an impeachment inquiry in the US Congress.

  14. catherine says:

    ”unwillingness to cultivate the Deplorables,”
    Huge huge mistake….Hillary drank too deeply of both the feminist and elite Kool-Aid long ago and ruined herself.
    But I am tired of them all, they are all predictable, corrupt and greasy. The best punishment is to send them all to the political garbage dump,waste no more time or money on them.

  15. James olney says:

    Dear pl, am now finally reading guns of august. Do you know a book review from milatary point of view.?

  16. akaPatience says:

    Yes, Obama and Clinton deserve to be scourged, at the very least. The MSM won’t do it though. Who could effectively knock them off their pedestals?
    Actually, every one of the greedy, corrupt and conspring bastards should be SLOWLY DRAGGED through court and nearly bankrupted. Hit ’em where it really hurts.
    Still, it would be nice to see SOME of the malefactors do the perp walk, for the sake of public morale if nothing else. People are truly sick of the double standard of selective law enforcement.

  17. LondonBob says:

    Nixon, Spiro Agnew? Of course they were Republicans and the journalists didn’t like them.
    I don’t buy this argument, politicians aren’t above the law and should face the consequences. Would set a terrible precedent if they did get away with it.

  18. ancientarcher says:

    It’s incredibly surprising and sad for someone like me, who’s not an American but spent a few years working in the country and has a lot of love for the place and the people there, to see this. In my opinion, the bureaucrats who behaved so must be prosecuted and made an example of. In the absence of that, this rot will only spread. Control this cancer while you still can

  19. anon says:

    Oh well
    King for a day
    Queen for a night
    Do our desires rule
    From day to night

  20. turcopolier says:

    anon
    She didn’t really.

  21. turcopolier says:

    LondonBob
    Nixon was forced into resignation and Agnew was forced to resign as well. How does that not qualify as “scourging.”

  22. turcopolier says:

    James Olney
    I do not. IMO her best book is “The Proud Tower.”

  23. Barbara Ann says:

    I’ve heard she is OK with “HRH”.

  24. turcopolier says:

    Lars
    Trump is nothing like a failure. The country is prosperous. We are not at war. What would be the charge? Bad taste? Tell me how he is a threat to the constitution. He has, in fact, waited patiently for the investigative process to deal with the villains I named while his own allies were imprisoned by Mueller’s Kangaroo grand juries and Mueller’s army of Clintonite staff. Leftists like you are provoking all who disagree with you to the point of almost inevitable dissolution of the Union.

  25. turcopolier says:

    Barbara Ann
    I briefed her several time when she was a senator. That was the limit if my acquaintance.

  26. Morongobill says:

    You are so far into denial of the facts that you typed this from your row boat near Cairo.
    Keep dreaming.

  27. Fred says:

    Lars,
    If only Nancy Pelosi could get an impeachment bill out of committee. I’m sure when The Squad gets control we won’t have to wait for years to impeach for colluding with the Russians, or corrupt NYC real estate deals, or payoffs to porn stars or, what’s the newest scandal this time? Inquiry now! Impeachment, well, maybe next election cycle.

  28. LondonBob says:

    I agree with the scourging, I was disagreeing with the contention of the poster that pursuing politicians of opposing parties for wrongdoing is akin to third World behaviour, an argument I know Bannon made. Maybe Trump can pardon Obama and Clinton after they have been sufficiently chastised.

  29. John Minehan says:

    Trump, as a businessman, tended to overextend himself in areas where he was not very able (gaming, airlines and proprietary educational institutions come to mind).
    As POTUS, Trump started a trade war with the PRC against an almost universal consensus among economists that such a course of action: 1) was virtually unwinnable in the particular; and 2) systemically disruptive in general.
    This is a “bell the cat” plan, like the invasion of Iraq to “transform the Middle East.” I doubt this will end well.
    The problem with “trusting your gut” is that you will be wrong more times than you are right. If you are the only one bearing the risk, and the winners pay off vastly more than the losers cost, you are OK. An example would be Nassim Nicholas Taleb’s hedge fund strategy.
    Trump (or any POTUS, by definition) is not in that position.

  30. turcopolier says:

    JM
    That depends on the quality of your gut.

  31. Don Schmeling says:

    ‘Trump is nothing like a failure. The country is prosperous. We are not at war. What would be the charge? Bad taste?”
    Exactly!
    And he is trying to bring industry back into the USA. I don’t know if he can do it, but if he succeeds, he will be listed as one of your country’s greatest Presidents

  32. Barbara Ann says:

    What was the almost universal consensus of political pundits on Trump’s chances before the election? Trump was elected POTUS despite us (and doubtless him) being assured it was 1) virtually unwinnable in the particular; and 2) systemically disruptive in general. My gut tells me it is highly unwise to underestimate what this man can achieve with his gut.

  33. Keith Harbaugh says:

    Are you referring to HRC here? I thought you had said in an earlier post that you had recommended her for some kind of award at VMI when you were involved with nominations for such awards. Somehow Sidney Blumenthal was involved in that, IIRC.

  34. turcopolier says:

    KH
    Yes, but I di not see her then. I recommended her but by the time the award was made I declined to attend.

  35. Fred says:

    I am assured by an expert, a Nobel prize winner no less, that the economy is never going to recover. In fact it is so bad Obama got a deal on a completely non-elitist mansion on Martha’s Vineyard. I hope he enjoys the beach front views, experts assure me he’s only got twelve years.

  36. John Minehan says:

    Eh, not really.
    HRC was almost more unpopular than Trump in many circles. Certain people (Salena Zito notably), forecast issues in the Mid-West that had been developing over several election cycles.
    A lot of people foresaw an odd result in the Electoral College, either someone winning the Popular Vote without taking the Electoral College or an Adams-Jackson- like trip to the House.
    The HRC E-mails are not evidence of a crime, but neither did they make me think she could handle being POTUS; she set up that unwieldy e-mail architecture to get around FOIL and by DoS’s own IG there were major issue with Computer Security and Document Security in DoS.
    Not enough people saw her campaign as anything other than a sale of day-old-bread.

  37. different clue says:

    It depends on who or what the DemParty nominates. There are millions of Pink Kitty Cap legacy Jonestown Clinties who would rather see the Bad Orange Man re-elected than to vote for the evil Lunatic Marxist who cost Her Royal Hillness the Presidency so far as they are concerned.
    And there are millions of Bitter Berners who would rather risk having the Bad Orange Man re-elected than to vote for a Catfood Clintonite. And if Her Royal Herness gets herself re-nominated as Candidate all over again . . . under cover of darkness in a Brokered Convention . . . then at least some of those Bitter Berners will vote for Bad Orange Man all over aGAIN to send Countess Clintula back into her coffin aGAIN and try to make sure she stays there for good.
    So it is too simple to say that just because a majority of Americans ” do not want ” Mr. Trump to have a second term ; that he therefor will not have one. DemParty decisions at and after the Convention will have a very major influence on that.

  38. different clue says:

    A problem for Hillary is that the particular strand of feminism she embodied was an upper-middle-class feminism . . . which has come to be called Goldman Sachs Feminism. And the Goldman Sachs Feminists’ major concern was breaking through the Tiffany Glass Ceiling.

  39. blue peacock says:

    “…Trump started a trade war with the PRC against an almost universal consensus among economists that such a course of action: 1) was virtually unwinnable in the particular; and 2) systemically disruptive in general.”
    When has the universal consensus among economists ever proven correct? In actual market trading the winning strategy is always to fade the “universal consensus of economists”.
    Maybe you forgot to read Jack’s response to your Ph.D economist friends dire opinions on the trade “war” with the Chinese Communist Party! Yeah, they are exactly some of those that sold the Deplorables down the river in the hope that the Communists would give them a slice of pie.
    BTW, Trump is already winning the trade war against the Chinese Communists. Just follow the stories on Bloomberg & Reuters of how many companies are shifting their production away from China. If he ratchets it up a couple notches by sanctioning the Chinese banks including those that a US Appeals Court has upheld contempt fines on, then we will see how Xi & his politburo squeal like the culled hogs in China.
    This is Xi’s China – a revolution waiting to happen.

  40. blue peacock says:

    China’s tariffs on US hogs hits essentials for Chinese whereas US tariffs on Chinese goods hit discretionary and intermediate items for Americans. Big difference.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/import-limits-effects-of-swine-fever-hit-pork-prices-in-china-11566990454
    Pork prices up 18% in 2 weeks and 50% in the past year. Yeah, Xi is winning! With more winning like this Xi will soon be in a re-education camp.

  41. catherine says:

    I have a short story about Hillary. A friend of mine who was a mid level executive with a Fortune 50 company had cancer and the surgery required left her disabled, she lost half her back muscle and the use of her left arm. Since her job was 80% travel year round she was declared “unfit” for her position and the company offered her no other position. Plus their insurer kept refusing to pay on her disability insurance and she had run thru several 100 thousand of her own savings on living expenses and med bills during this time. My husband referred her to several attorneys but when they explained ERISA to her and that the court could make her responsible for paying both her legal cost and the insurers legal fees if she lost she balked.
    She was so mad however she fired off a email to Hillary’s WH office describing her situation since that was during the time Hillary was pushing on health care but not thinking to hear anything from it. But several weeks later she got a phone call from a lawyer with the DOL who said her letter had been referred to them. Several weeks later she got a check from the insurer for everything they owed her and letter of apology from the HR department of her company.
    Needless to say she is a big supporter of Hillary and voted for her. This was almost enough to make me support her but this was back on the mid 90’s and I think Hillary had become too power driven and become too radical leftist in public and too wedded to WS in the back room.
    There might be other instances where a WH responded to a average citizen but this one is the only on I know of.

  42. catherine says:

    ”My gut tells me it is highly unwise to underestimate what this man can achieve with his gut”
    A lot of people have no understanding of why Trump was elected.
    It wasn’t genius.
    I said 12 years ago that if a candidate with a “America First'(and I used that exact phrase) slogan came along he would be elected.
    Why?
    Because the country was ANGRY. Everyone but the 1% was angry and disgusted and everyone thought their class or group was getting the short end of the stick…and most were. Working Americans of every class were the most ignored people in the country and they were sick of the DC incest tank status quo.
    Of course Trump wasn’t what I had in mind as a American Firster so I wouldn’t vote for him.
    Why?
    Because I knew his business background, not the rumors or the PR hype, the facts.
    Any marketing exec. or anyone gets around enough to ‘sniff the wind’ would have advised tapping into that ANGER and that is what Trump did.
    BUT that ANGER is still out here, in fact its worse so I wouldn’t make any bets on who is going to win the next election.
    Imo…its going to go one of two ways;..Public Anger vr Public Exhaustion with the turmoil.
    And those two can be combined by a candidate smart enough to use both.

  43. catherine says:

    ”when The Squad gets control ”
    Well this will probably set someone’s hair of fire..tee hee… but I like the Squad. And Ted Lieu who also blasted the Israel ‘influence’.
    They have done wonders for my Israel Derangement Syndrome.
    So how ironic is it that it took a immigrant Palestine girl, a immigrant Somalia girl and a immigrant Japanese guy to say in public, despite the risk to their political careers ,what none of our locally bred politicians will say about the pernicious influence of the Israel Fifth Column.

  44. d74 says:

    «his campaign’s collusion with Russia…»
    Do you suppose Putin is so incompetent that he would have bet everything on the orange-haired guy who has nothing between his ears? A bad investment, really.
    You can answer the qualities of Orange Hairs are well hidden and Putin discovered them, but I doubt it.
    It is safer to think such a big failure by the KGB/FSB is unlikely. The guy with nothing between his ears is all alone, left to his own devices. Exit the poutineries. The next step is for the USA with/against the USA and that’s fine.

  45. John Minehan says:

    that is an interesting anecdote. I’ve heard similar positive things about HRC as a Senator.
    On the other hand, it appears your friend was denied benefits due under the Plan, which is the quintessential violation of ERISA.
    It would strike me the first thing you would do as a private attorney would be to exhaust administrative remedies and that any demand letters would be copied to US DoL, who (along with the IRS) oversee ERISA.
    While HRC benefited your friend, I’m not sure she did anything unusual.

  46. turcopolier says:

    d74
    There are many kinds of intelligence. This may be a new thought for you but there are people who function differently than you but are yet intelligent.

  47. Barbara Ann says:

    catherine
    Yes Trump tapped into the zeitgeist and the next winner will have to do likewise. But another necessary for Trump’s success was his extraordinarily skill in defeating the almost universal bias among the mass media with his “Fake News” strategy, including the use of his personal Twitter account. How many other anti-establishment candidates would have managed this? The sufficient factor enabling victory was of course conveniently provided by his opponent.
    I agree with your characterization of the 2 dominant moods among the electorate. I believe Trump could still pull it off, but he’ll have to address the turmoil. This will require victory to be declared in the trade war. A similar victory declaration re Afghanistan should help and then there is the wildcard of where the unraveling of the Russiagate coup plot goes. On the last one Trump darn well ought to have enough ammo to bury the Dems for a generation, if he is minded to use it.

  48. John Minehan says:

    Yeah, I think that covers it quite well . . . .

  49. John Minehan says:

    The better advice is to hedge the consensus. It is, for example, how Taleb made his fortune.

  50. John Minehan says:

    It also depends, per Nassim Nickolas Taleb, on your having “Skin In The Game.”

  51. Jack says:

    Taleb’s thesis is not hedging but buying cheap insurance for tail risk. Two different things.

  52. John Minehan says:

    I think this has some merit https://fortune.com/2019/08/16/trump-china-trade-war-winner-data/.
    The real answer is that this is a big advantage to Vietnam, Brazil and other similarly situated countries.

  53. John Minehan says:

    I liked Stillwell and teh American Experiance in China. She had a knack for telling a story as well as presenting information.

  54. Barbara Ann says:

    As I said here shortly after his election, Trump has tremendous skin in the game. The day he took office the fortunes of the brand Trump became inextricably linked to his presidency. If he is impeached, or otherwise fails spectacularly he will be ruined and his whole family will become outcasts.

  55. Barbara Ann says:

    One of the reasons Trump is consistently underestimated is pure and simple intellectual snobbery. He is boorish, so assumed to be an oaf. I have no difficulty saying he is brilliant. It may not be the socially acceptable kind of brilliance, but that does not change the fact.
    Given the potential for deadly consequences, I imagine in your world (GB and particularly in MI) any such prejudice is quickly rooted or trained out.

  56. catherine says:

    ”This will require victory to be declared in the trade war. ”
    Don’t worry about Trump’s trade war. Trump will declare ‘victory’ in the trade war whether or not it is an actual victory…lol….just keep reading his tweets.

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