Open Thread 18 June, 2021

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  1. Fred says:

    Will Chinese space stations leak like Chinese virus labs? Just kidding.

    Happy Juneteenth weekend, the new holiday where we celebrate the execution of communist traitors who gave national security secrets to the USSR aiding them in their efforts to build nuclear weapons.
    https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/rosenbergs-executed
    Oh, and those white guys freed the slaves. Make sure to say thanks.

  2. asx says:

    There was a time in the 80s and 90s in India when either the ruling party or the combined opposition would call for a nationwide ‘bandh’ aka shutdown/strike. The compliance to the bandh was an indicator of how much the cause resonated with the public and/or the popularity of the parties calling for it. To ensure compliance ‘workers’ associated with the calling party will enforce the shutdown mostly with a verbal threat or sometimes by ransacking shops and businesses which defied the call for shutdown. This was the cancel culture mob of those times. In recent times, these calls for bandh have mostly been met with a wide yawn as no one wants to compromise on their livelihoods and profits. The socialist yoke is no more.

    Fast forward to the 2020s here in the US. Last week, the CDC scheduled an emergency meeting set to happen today to discuss the potentially serious side effect of myocarditis(inflammation of the heart muscles) in young men after the second vaccine dose. That an emergency meeting gets scheduled a full week later in itself raises eyebrows. But now with the declaration of Juneteenth as a federal holiday which is observed today, the CDC canceled this meeting. The spectacle of the nation’s top scientists and medical professionals not observing the holiday was not worth handling this emergency. Fear of getting canceled is the primary survival instinct. The yoke bears heavy.

  3. Deap says:

    The infamous three-party pass of “something” (looks like a thumb drive?) from (1) triple vote counter Ruby Freeman to (2) suitcase ballots daughter Shaye Freeman Moss to an unknown (3) sleepy, yawning Third Guy at the Atlanta Convention Center election count – Fulton County.

    For your 2020 Election Integrity research files, before it gets scrubbed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Za3OKNKG-8

  4. Leith says:

    Heard on Science Friday radio today that Polynesian navigators discovered Antarctica a thousand years before the Bellingshausen expedition in the 1820s. I tend to believe it. Those people were amazing navigators. Sorry, but can’t find a link to the broadcast.

    I wonder though if the Yamana people of southern Tierra del Fuego didn’t also get there early on. 1] They lived father south. 2] they were not far from the northernmost tip of the antarctic peninsula aka Palmer Land and Antarctica’s South Shetland Islands. 3] they were hunters of sea lions and other ocean mammals.

    • TTG says:

      Quite a coincidence. Yesterday I found an article on this very subject. I don’t know what brought me to the “Journal of the Royal Society of New Zealand,” but I’m glad I found it. Maoris in either very large canoes or sailing double canoes like the Hokule’a made the trips. I still may build a proa.

      https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/03036758.2021.1917633

    • Deap says:

      The Great Polynesian Migration is one of the grandest adventures of all – sailing with sufficient provisions into the vast uncharted Pacific Ocean unknown relying only on a highly complex sense of winds and wave patterns indicating where land might exist across this great flat expanse of water with an infinite horizon.

      Allegedly, it was the rats brought along for a food supply on these sea-faring journeys that ate all the palm tree nuts on Easter Island, leading to its destructive deforestation, since there were no natural predators for the migration introduced rats.

    • Mark Logan says:

      Probably not. They have no recorded seafaring tradition. Not much reason to develop one. The near waters are rich, and the seas in that part of the world are legendary for their hostility. The indigenous peoples of the tropic and sub tropic regions had strong incentives to travel.

      That wanderlust and a seafaring tradition no doubt played a large part in the decision making of individual islanders to go join the crews of the early European explorer’s ships, some gaining high status nearly immediately. The legendary harpooners of the early whalers on which Queequeg was based.

      Deadliest Catch’s Freddy Maugatai exhibits all the traits. There is something of an immediate and strong synergy between the culture of the south Pacific Islanders and Europeans. Can’t explain it.

      Just remembered this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI6TRTBZUMM

      • Leith says:

        Thanks Mark – Nice video link. What a great way to send off a deceased comrade.

      • Deap says:

        In the early 1960’s, the Cal Berkeley football team decided to take up rugby, instead of spring football* practice This got them invited to tour Pacific Island nations, where these pretty burly football guys proceeded to win most if not all of their matches.

        The team came back from New Zealand with what became known as the Cal Haka, which we now performed in the football stadium at the start of football games for a number of seasons. Left the opposing teams dumbfounded as the entire cheering section jumped up and down, beat on our chests, frowned and growled, but even then we were known as Bezerkley.

        * NB: football being real football, not soccer.

    • Rob Waddell says:

      Another coincidence. Just heard this yesterday on Radio New Zealand (RNZ).
      Discussion with Jeff Evans, author of a new book ‘Reawakened: Traditional navigators of Te Moana-nui-a-Kiwa’. This tells the stories of 10 master navigators who are leading figures in the renaissance of Pacific voyaging.
      https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/sunday/audio/2018800516/the-incredible-master-navigators-of-pacific-voyaging
      On a personal note: Sailing back from the Pacific islands to New Zealand. On many a midnight watch I have seen the Southern Cross and other celestial objects rotate around the South Pole and the whole concept of celestial navigation just downloaded in my thought process. It the nearest thing to a spiritual experience I have experienced, but in a very enjoyable and calming way.

  5. Leith says:

    Nutsandyahoo is refusing to leave the Prime Minister’s residence.

  6. longarch says:

    Ladies and Gentlemen:

    We are sailing through dark waters for a while. I am thankful turcopolier is still up and running and serving as a committee of correspondence. The other good news is that patriots still have anonymous communications. The current state of anonymous communications is far from ideal, but it is an essential piece of the puzzle. Forgive me for not linking directly, but 8kun often has offensive content mixed in the with gems.

    One anonymous patriot recently wrote on 8kun:

    This weeks WINS, every week the list is getting longer, buckle up! Week, June 16, 2021:

    1. President Trump is holding rallies again! The first one will be Saturday, June 26th, in Cleveland. He will be throwing his support behind former White House aide Max Miller who is seeking to primary RINO Congressman Anthony Gonzalez. Gonzalez was one of ten GOP House members who voted for impeachment in January.

    2. President Trump will join Texas Governor Greg Abbott on an official visit to the Southern Border June 30th. He hopes his visit will “shine a spotlight on these crimes against our Nation – and show the incredible people of ICE and Border Patrol that they have our unshakeable support.”

    3. The truth continues to come out about January 6th. Senator Ron Johnson (R-WI) and his staff have reviewed surveillance footage and found 38% of the approximately 800 people who entered the Capitol walked peacefully through an opened doorway in front of five officers. Senator Johnson is pushing to interview those officers.

    4. Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ) grilled FBI Director Wray about January 6th and entered the Revolver News article into the record with unanimous consent. This article lays out the case that federal officials infiltrated and incited January 6th protests.

    5. Congressman Matt Gaetz (R-FL) called on FBI Director Wray to fully disclose the role and involvement of FBI operatives on January 6th.

    6. Brave people continue to expose MSM corruption. During a live segment, Fox reporter Ivory Hecker accused Fox News of censoring her. She had secretly recorded her bosses at Fox directing her to squelch her stories, including one about the effectiveness of HCQ in treating COVID-19. In an interview with Project Veritas, she accused Fox of caring more about their corporate sponsors than about telling people the truth.

    7. A Fulton County, GA, election official admitted that ballot drop box transfer forms are missing for almost 19,000 absentee ballots. There is no record of how these ballots got from point A to point B. Fulton is now the fourth county in Georgia under investigation for failing to produce chain of custody documentation.

    8. The Biden administration announced an investigation into NIH grants, including the funding Dr. Fauci approved for the Wuhan lab.

    9. Arizona Governor Doug Ducey issued an Executive Order that protects the rights of public college and university students. Under the EO, students cannot be mandated to get the jab, show a “vaccine passport,” wear a mask or be tested for COVID-19 in order to attend classes.

    10. A Florida appeals court has ruled that bodily autonomy is a fundamental right and that all mask mandates, past and present, are unconstitutional. According to this ruling, any mask mandate targeting the unvaccinated would also violate the Constitution. This ruling is expected to reverberate throughout the country.

    11. Mike Pompeo launched a political action committee called Champion American Values PAC to help conservatives win in 2022. His goal is to elect the most conservative electable candidate at all levels, “whether it’s school board, city council, or a United States Senate seat.”

    12. Less than a third of voters believe Biden’s claim that global warming is America’s “greatest threat,” and few are willing to pay more taxes in order to fight it.

    13. A federal judge has blocked Biden’s race-based loan forgiveness program that excluded white farmers. The judge cited a previous court ruling that stated “government policies that classify people by race are presumptively invalid.”

    14. Comedian Jon Stewart went on Colbert’s “Late Show” Monday night and used his entire time to insist that COVID-19 originated in the Wuhan lab and to mock claims that it originated naturally.

    15. The best news is that we are invited to “approach God’s throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.” Hebrews 4:16

  7. Deap says:

    Spy vs Spy: Internecine warfare NSA vs FBI – we the people are mere collateral damage. Who and why were the 16,000 Americans the FBI spied upon?

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/nsa-agrees-to-release-records-on-fbis-improper-spying-on-16000-americans_3865431.html/?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=TheLibertyDaily

    How do we ever learn why we might have pulled the dreaded SSSS special treatment airline boarding pass?

  8. Ed Lindgren says:

    I spent a few moments celebrating Juneteenth Independence Day by considering the symbiotic relationship between America’s Black community and the Democratic Party.

    I think a compelling case can be made that no single institution has done more damage to Black America than the Democratic Party.

    Consider………

    1) Jim Crow and segregation were creations of the state and local governments in the South during the 100 years following the end of the Civil War. During this period (post-Reconstruction) the South was a solid Democratic bastion (no Republicans need apply). It is a pretty fair guess that most members of the historical Klan were also good Democratic voters.

    2) The disintegration of the Black nuclear family was aided and abetted by LBJ’s Great Society programs. Black families ended up on welfare or other forms of government relief, dad disappeared, and mom (or grandma) was left in charge of the children. No impetus to clean this mess up since a burgeoning case load is great job security for social workers (virtually all of whom vote Democratic).

    3) America once had pretty good K-12 public schools. No more! The teachers unions hold the system hostage. The main reasons for the existence of the NEA and AFT are a) to deliver the ‘education’ vote to the Democrats at election time and 2) to ensure that teacher’s pensions are fully funded. Educating children is more or less an afterthought. No one suffers more under this system than poor children of color.

    4) Finally, when looting, rioting and burning were running rampant across our Democratic Party-ruled big cities last summer, no one suffered more losses than the Black community. And the Democratic ‘leadership’ of those cities (much of it Black) did virtually nothing to stop the carnage.

    A disinterested, independent observer might come to the conclusion that the Democratic Party has been running a 150 year long terrorist plot against Black America. Yet Black American voters consistently deliver 90% of their votes to candidates like Joe Biden.

    But like many (perhaps most) Americans, Black Americans thrive on a diet of myth and magical thinking.

  9. Deap says:

    More 2020 Scamdemic:

    Pre-election “counting cases” of covid versus the post-election “counting infections” – prime example of how to lie with statistics …………for political gain: Change the parameters of what is being measured and lump them all together and hope no one notices.

    The former counting parameter exaggerated the impact of “covid” to be used to take down Trump. Using the later counting parameter now provides Biden a “covid” victory lap.

    https://beckernews.com/3-new-academic-study-confirms-mass-testing-of-asymptomatics-was-a-scam-39812/

    The Great 2020 Scamdemic is unraveling, ironically as data and real science – testing a hypotheses — finally get mention post-election on the back pages, instead of the screaming headlines pre-election.

    There was a time when a comment like “Trump murdered 300,000 Americans” would land you on the wrong end of a slander per se case – false statement of criminal activity was automatically deemed liable, with the burden of proof now falling on the accuser; not the accused.

  10. Deap says:

    What a woke diversity dinner party looks like at the Kamala Harris VP Mansion: all whites around the table, and all blacks in the kitchen:

    https://www.lifezette.com/2021/06/damning-photos-of-banquet-inside-kamalas-house-ignite-firestorm-of-online/

  11. Sam says:

    Monetary policy over the past three decades has caused ever higher debt and ever greater instability in the financial system

    https://themarket.ch/interview/william-white-central-banks-keep-shooting-themselves-in-the-foot-ld.3053

    Important interview with the former chief economist for the Bank for International Settlements, the central banks’ central bank.

    The Ph.Ds that run the Fed and the other central banks have caused much damage to the global economy ever since the Greenspan era. Snake oil theories have been promoted to grow systemic debt and funnel financial benefits to the oligarchy and the Davos speculative class where speculative profits have been concentrated while losses have been socialized further impoverishing the working class.

  12. Bobo says:

    I took a wander over to b’s site today after noting some impolite words and can only say “WTF is wrong with that guy”.

  13. Sam says:

    A thread worthy of your time.

    https://twitter.com/ayjchan/status/1406636981245943814?s=21

    The most important takeaway from the story of the 1979 anthrax lab leak is that it did not involve a giant conspiracy – just the usual cover up you’d expect from an authoritarian state.

    People, each with little bits of information, being silenced or too fearful to come forward.

  14. longarch says:

    Quote :

    This is the danger of allowing the government to carry out widespread surveillance, sting and entrapment operations using dubious tactics that sidestep the rule of law: “we the people” become suspects and potential criminals, while government agents, empowered to fight crime using all means at their disposal, become indistinguishable from the corrupt forces they seek to vanquish.

    To go after terrorists, they become terrorists. To go after drug smugglers, they become drug smugglers. To go after thieves, they become thieves.

    For instance, when the FBI raided a California business that was suspected of letting drug dealers anonymously stash guns, drugs and cash in its private vaults, agents seized the contents of all the safety deposit boxes and filed forfeiture motions to keep the contents, which include millions of dollars’ worth of valuables owned by individuals not accused of any crime whatsoever.

    It’s hard to say whether we’re dealing with a kleptocracy (a government ruled by thieves), a kakistocracy (a government run by unprincipled career politicians, corporations and thieves that panders to the worst vices in our nature and has little regard for the rights of American citizens), or if we’ve gone straight to an idiocracy.

    This certainly isn’t a constitutional democracy, however.

    Some days, it feels like the FBI is running its own crime syndicate complete with mob rule and mafia-style justice.

    In addition to creating certain crimes in order to then “solve” them, the FBI also gives certain informants permission to break the law, “including everything from buying and selling illegal drugs to bribing government officials and plotting robberies,” in exchange for their cooperation on other fronts.

    USA Today estimates that agents have authorized criminals to engage in as many as 15 crimes a day (5600 crimes a year). Some of these informants are getting paid astronomical sums: one particularly unsavory fellow, later arrested for attempting to run over a police officer, was actually paid $85,000 for his help laying the trap for an entrapment scheme.

    https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/the_fbis_mafia_style_justice_to_fight_crime_the_fbi_sponsors_15_crimes_a_day

    I believe many readers of this blog would agree with the sentiments of the writer linked above.

  15. Fred says:

    Meanwhile in War against the West news:
    “….the vaccine has been linked to more deaths than COVID in Australia this year.”
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/06/21/covid-vaccine-variant-afghanistan-canada-mexico-delta/7765857002/

    Trump should let Biden have all the credit on developing the vaccines. Just a suggestion.

  16. Deap says:

    Two truisms need re-visiting:

    The people created the federal government. The states acquiesed to the the creation of the federal government.

    Today does the federal government belong to the people or the states? Or does the federal government belong only unto itself.

    Yes, it is time for a great Re-set.

    Build that Wall, Texas. Mississippi, protect your religious rights. Arizona, audit that election, Virginia, liberate yourself from the DC swamp, California keep turning the bums out……………….

  17. longarch says:


    Los Zetas Cartel checkpoints in the border city of Nuevo Laredo are linked to more than 100 forced disappearances–including the recent kidnapping of three U.S. citizens. The checkpoints exist with complete impunity and are part of a complex strategy to give the criminal organization more control by harvesting the data of those stopped at the roadblocks.

    https://www.breitbart.com/border/2021/06/22/exclusive-los-zetas-cartel-builds-big-data-surveillance-system-on-mexican-border-city/

    Drug cartels are adept at restricting travel with borders and checkpoints, building phone networks, building Big Data surveillance systems, violating privacy … basically drug cartels are tiny little governments.

  18. Keith Harbaugh says:

    Just want to point out the verbal, and actually physical, conflicts occuring right here in Virginia over
    the supports that school boards are giving to the vile pathology of gender insanity, and to CRT:

    https://youtu.be/AntKpOTq0Fc : a two-minute Fox video, showing physical conflict

    Fox News: Virginia’s Loudoun County School Board silences public comment after raucous meeting, 2 men arrested.
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/virginia-loudoun-county-school-board-mulls-transgender-critical-race-theory-policies

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/06/22/loudon-county-virginia-school-board-meeting-erupts-in-chaos-parents-confront-board-and-board-shuts-down-discussion/

    And as to my use of the phrase “vile pathology of gender insanity”,
    I put it in thst judgemental way because some people are deliberately playing with children’s minds,
    actively encouraging them to “identify” with other than their real, true, biologically and physically-determined (not “assigned”) sex.
    The result is that they can never become parents. (So much for “be fruitful and multiply”.)
    And, perhaps not coincidentally, to provide a new stream of customers to the medical profession, driving up our already way-to-high medical bills.

    See
    https://www.adl.org/education/educator-resources/lesson-plans/transgender-identity-and-issues
    and, from a more controversial source,
    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2015/10/09/jill-soloway-and-the-transgender-agenda-part-1/

    • Keith Harbaugh says:

      I want to add a comment:
      If Deap is reading this, I would be particularly interested in your reaction to, and comments on, the last two links above.

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