Open Thread 3 August, 2021

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  1. Serge says:

    Speaking of the #BBOG campaign, Shekau the leader of Boko Haram who had been reported killed dozens of times in the past 10 years only to reappear in a new boisterous video every month(he had a penchant for emptying AK-47 clips, sometimes one in each hand, as punctuation for his orations), was finally killed by IS in May after they invaded his Sambisa forest base. This is something that the Nigerian/AU army had been unable to do for a decade despite them knowing for sure that he was in there. True to his nature, Shekau blew himself up in the middle of a negotiation meeting with IS after they cornered him.
    Very interesting character this man Shekau. Fully fluent in english and arabic as well as his native hausa and kanuri. His views and methods, in particular his belief in chain takfir which lead to indiscriminate attacks against muslim civilians living under government rule, were seen as too extremist/counterproductive for IS standards and he was passed on by the central Iraq IS leadership which he had earlier pledged allegiance to. This lead to a split within the Boko haram group, one wing staying loyal to the designated IS successor, another to Shekau. Interestingly, even after the split Shekau still saw himself as the representative of the Iraqi Caliph in Africa, and continued to release professionally produced, for african standards, independent propaganda videos with fabricated IS watermarks up until his death. IS has since fully absorbed his cadres, this is particularly now visible in the far north of Cameroon around lake Chad where attacks previously claimed by Shekau’s group are now being claimed directly by IS.

  2. jld says:

    At last…
    See the reports from the French “Agence nationale de sécurité du médicament et des produits de santé (ANSM)” about the vaccines adverse reactions for Pfizer, Astrazeneca and Moderna.

    All in French but you can fetch each PDF from the OFFICIAL website https://ansm.sante.fr/

    It is an unmitigated disaster:
    – 975 deaths
    – 4714 very serious adverse effects (strokes, pulmonary embolies, cardiac emergencies, neurologic damages)

    No reason to believe it’s much different anywhere else…

    • JK/AR says:

      From that TrialSite News I’ve linked to severally on here – now behind a paywall but/and owing to that, I take full responsibility for entirely reproducing here:

      https://trialsitenews.com/are-statistical-methods-causing-us-to-miss-covid-19-vaccine-safety-signals/

      TrialSite’s Heading Disclaiming:

      (“In the July 26 piece “Defining Away Vaccine Safety Signals,” blogger Mathew Crawford asks questions about the COVID-19 vaccines that should be considered. The big question is whether we may be missing vaccine-harm signals based on our current systems. At the outset, Crawford posits that CDC’s safety-signal algorithm uses a, “nonsensical mathematical formula” that hides serious injuries. Reviewing the VAERS system, he notes that while it may contain a small subset of adverse events due to underreporting, it does provide important safety signals. For example, we can compare VAERS data from one flu shot to another and see if the newer shot has more reported injuries or deaths than the older. Per Crawford, changes were made to VAERS and to safety signal analysis in the lead-up to the EUA for the COVID-19 vaccines. On January 29, 2021, CDC published, “Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) Standard Operating Procedures for COVID-19.” In Section 2.2 beginning on page 14, CDC offers that, “A series of tables will be generated using the VAERS automated data,” and these, “will be refreshed daily for internal use,” yet “not for public release.” Why would CDC not want “eyeballs” on such data? This is especially true in that it took two months to see that myocarditis was an issue in spite of Israeli warnings. Despite this warning, it was June before action was taken.”)

      Proportional Reporting Ratio

      “The proportional reporting ratio (PRR) is a measure to summarize the level to which an adverse event is recorded for folks taking one drug, in comparison to the frequency of the same adverse event as reported in folks taking a different drug. This way, even though we don’t ultimately know how many initial VAERS reports are due to the vaccines, this measure at least allows us to see if a product is “as safe” as exemplar medication interventions we are more experienced with. Things get “crazy” in Section 2.3; this and its subsections, “define the safety signals to be used.” In 2.3.1, we learn that CDC will do PRR data mining as needed or weekly. Here they were comparing the current vaccines to established exemplar vaccines. Crawford holds that a notable safety signal is shown with a PRR of ≥4 on a chi-squared statistic, and 3 or greater adverse events (AEs) following. Mark Twain said there are lies, damn lies, and statistics. While we think he was exaggerating and that statistics properly applied are the heart of science, we merely offer a word of caution. Under above protocols, if a hazardous vaccine (e.g., one with 20 times the AEs) were given to the public, dangers substantially worse than existing vaccines might be overlooked. Key to Crawford, the “PRR remains invariant in the scaling of adverse events!”

      [That PPR reference in the first sentence goes to a Wiki page – JK/AR]

      “This is Not Subtle at All”

      ““For example, a vaccine that killed or maimed 1,000 times as many folks as an approved and declared “very safe vaccine” may show the same PRR, minor adjustments aside, thus there is no safety signal to the CDC. According to Crawford, important safety signals have been lost. During the vaccine program, “important safety signals have come and gone without notice.” For example, “the MedDRA term ‘death’ showed up as a signal in dispersion analysis in February, but no longer does due to the rising quantity of so many other AEs, which forces structural mean-reversion of the PPR function (toward 1) by inflating the denominator. In other words, the number of an AE, a, is normalized to the total number of adverse events (not the number vaccinated, or doses), the ratio of which is then normalized again to the aggregated totals…from other vaccines.” A signal can be hidden when, “PRR changes only slightly when a handful of AEs scale up, even for extreme value of the scalar”. After a review of some maths, Crawford notes that, “Mathematicians and statisticians worthy of the title do not miss the kind of scale invariance or mean-reversion we see embedded in the PRR—particularly not when working in a dedicated group on a serious problem. There is a pride among geeks in identifying subtle mathematical or logical flaws in a system, and this is not subtle at all.””

      Are We Missing Safety Signals?

      “On July 29, Crawford waded back into the vaccine safety signal issue. In 2016, Wisniewski, et al (including big pharma authors) looked at proper signal detection methodologies and said, “calculation of PRRs…should not replace nor delay the performance of formal epidemiological studies.” In 2017, Hauben and Maignen looked at the history of disproportionality analysis including signal functions like PRR; they found evidence of “masking”—this is when strong associations are present between AEs from different interventions. In 2018, Viswam et all, “found PRR to have the lowest sensitivity among various methods for AE signal detection. COVID-19 vaccines constitute a huge proportion of all VAERS reports, and will likely be the majority once submissions, “catch up with the backlog.” Crawford then offers a “simple analogy” to help elucidate the PRR issue. The PRR is a ratio of two quantities, where each is the number of an adverse event category, “out of the total number of adverse events ascribed to a vaccine.” Crawford’s main take-home point is that if we are comparing two mRNA type vaccines, even if the number of AEs grows large, the PRR may never signal a safety issue.”
      ..
      (TrialSite notes that these analyses are one person’s perspective; regardless, we feel that he presents questions that we should be considering in evaluating our COVID-19 vaccines.)

      https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/defining-away-vaccine-safety-signals

      In that final paragraph of Crawford’s beginning “waded back” that goes to this link:

      https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/the-chloroquine-wars-part-xlix

      ..

      Again I state I take full responsibility should TrialSite take issue with my having pasted the above. Hopefully they won’t but what the heck.

  3. Deap says:

    Eye bleach, please.

  4. Sam says:

    #BringBackOurGirls was a perfect example of empty woke virtue signaling. Like Boko Haram cared a rats ass about Michelle’s hashtag. But Big Tech & Big Media loved it.

    Now Barack has a big birthday bash with 500+ maskless guests at his multi-million dollar Martha’s Vineyard pad. The racism, white supremacy, covid fearmongering, curtailment of liberties, canceling dissenters. The average American is being played for a fool yet the majority cheer on the overlords as they sock it to the few calling the Emperor naked.

    I’ve always said that real monsters look like normal people. Here’s one of them.

    https://twitter.com/guruanaerobic/status/1422492638645719070?s=21

  5. Sam says:

    NYC Orders Restaurants And Gyms To Demand Proof Of Vaccination From All Customers

    https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1422566741851389955?s=21

    How many citizens & restaurants will sue? How many judges will take the cases? Yeah, we know how the majority will act. And what will MAGA chief say while he keeps sending his fundraising pitches?

    • Fred says:

      You will not be required to prove you have been vaccinated to vote. Covid is so dangerous we’ll just mail you a ballot. In fact we’ll mail one to all registered voters. Plan accordingly.

  6. BillWade says:

    Look like Gov Cuomo is in hot water for messing with the gals. A better way to get rid of him instead of nursing home deaths politically. Obama must be pleased, might get his gal into the governorship.

  7. Idib says:

    Panamanian Flagged “Asphalt Princess” reported to be hit by a possible mine a few hours ago. Now headlines are flashing about a “possible hijacking”.

    Thoughts, comments, concerns?

  8. BillWade says:

    John Cardillo
    @johncardillo
    ·
    1h
    This presser is just getting worse and worse for
    @NYGovCuomo
    .

    I knew Leticia James wanted his job, but damn, this woman went for the kill shot and is now just desecrating the corpse.

  9. Babeltuap says:

    If I take the common flu shot and get sick a month later, it is due to others are not getting the flu shot. If everyone (and not just 70%) I mean EVERYONE got the flu shot this would have never happened but they REFUSE. They must be punished and shamed and hurt financially until this goal is achieved.

    • Laura says:

      You do know that the flu shot is much less effective than the C-19? You did know that, right…. oh, maybe not.

      • JerseyJeffersonian says:

        You do know that your leftist hasbara is much less effective than the truth?
        You did know that, right? Oh, maybe not…

  10. Jim says:

    Vaccine Effectiveness = VE

    “Vaccine efficacy and vaccine effectiveness measure the proportionate reduction in cases among vaccinated persons. Vaccine efficacy is used when a study is carried out under ideal conditions, for example, during a clinical trial. Vaccine effectiveness is used when a study is carried out under typical field (that is, less than perfectly controlled) conditions.” according to the CDC.

    https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dsepd/ss1978/lesson3/section6.html

    With our warped medical leaders, politicians, pharma-profiteers and big media now feeding us “Delta Variant” swill as if we were caged pigs, a few things may be of use to better frame our perspectives and understandings on this, —the latest CDC etc. Narrative Operation.

    Israel is now reporting Vaccine Effectiveness for covid shots at 39%-40%.

    Haaretz, quoting Israel’s director of public health services, Dr. Sharon Alroy-Preis, has her stating [dateline Aug. 1, 2021]: “Previously we thought that fully vaccinated individuals are protected, but we now see that vaccine effectiveness is roughly 40 percent.”

    Alroy-Preis stated fully half, or 50% of the current infections in Israel are among those fully vaccinated.

    And she told Haaretz: “we see a drop in the vaccine effectiveness against disease for those who have been vaccinated early on, and we see it for both elderly people over the age of 60 but also for the younger.”

    This means that the claimed ~40% VE is in fact going down as she speaks.

    What will the actual VE end up being?

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/coronavirus-delta-variant-is-50-percent-more-infectious-israeli-top-official-says-1.10068650

    During a March 2021 interview with France 24, Alroy-Preis said 80 percent in that country eligible were already vaccinated against Covid-19 — claiming: “You can get to a point in this pandemic where you open sectors and the disease goes down.”

    https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/the-interview/20210326-top-israeli-health-official-on-covid-19-i-support-giving-vaccines-to-our-neighbours

    Her March claims, along with her credibility have gone up in smoke as the Zionist Entity begins more draconian lockdowns etc. in a matter of days.

    And we also have more fantasy, masquerading as science from New England Journal of Medicine, dateline July 21, 2021.

    This NEJM work on behalf of big pharma — and not on our behalf at all — has been recently used to create the illusion that cov vax VE can do what has never been, regards influenza vax’.

    “With the BNT162b2 vaccine, the effectiveness of two doses was 93.7%” NEJM says, and also states: “88.0% (95% CI, 85.3 to 90.1) among those with the delta variant.”

    This is hyped at top of this paper, in third paragraph under results.

    Fourth paragraph: “This finding would support efforts to maximize vaccine uptake with two doses among vulnerable populations. (Funded by Public Health England.)”

    Way down,
    27th paragraph: “The numbers of cases and follow-up periods are currently insufficient for the estimation of vaccine effectiveness against severe disease, including hospitalization and death.”

    Here is the NEJM, publishing a paper titled, “Effectiveness of Covid-19 Vaccines against the B.1.617.2 (Delta) Variant” — and none of the 12 authors, plus “et al.” — none of them had the skill set to recognize they are violating the VE definition!

    “Vaccine efficacy/effectiveness (VE) is measured by calculating the risk of disease among vaccinated and unvaccinated persons and determining the percentage reduction in risk of disease among vaccinated persons relative to unvaccinated persons.”

    VE includes measuring against disease — whether mild, moderate, severe, and deadly.

    And this, published in NEJM.

    Be that as it may, prior to March 2020, it was widely accepted: that 40% VE was “OK” for the CDC — even as they for decades claimed they wanted at least 90%.

    When the drug pushers claimed with zero evidence in November, in concordance with the Emergency Use Authorizations for Moderna and Pfizer, they were claiming the impossible, at least, what has always been impossible: any VE better than 50% for influenza vax’.

    It was ON PURPOSE the medical charlatans and vaccine fanatics in charge of this criminal operation pretended not to know the obvious about VE.

    These false expectations of 90% and higher for covid shots — the “experts” all knew all along this was myth, a fairy tale — their science fiction posing as scientific knowledge. . . and the false expectations they created obviously totally inappropriate: and now they are stuck in their own contradictions. [But they got their EUA, and got to pillage the lands far and wide with their experimental poison, now appearing to be creating potential catastrophe. As we will see below, this is exactly what the CDC is now saying; however, they are not stating this obviousness in a rational and coherent manner. Rather, in a way that in effect blames us for it. But what else is new?]

    And the gaslighting continues.

    This CDC graph, link below: shows last 11 years of VE: 43% average VE, for influenza.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/effectiveness-studies.htm

    And depending on the type of flu — it was completely worthless during 2018/2019 flu season for those aged 9 – 49 years old: EV = 3%, for H3N2, that season.

    And those 50-64: zero VE.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/2018-2019.html

    The 40% VE rate [and dropping] that Israel is now reporting would have been considered normal — unacceptable, yes; normal, also yes.

    Googling “Vaccine Effectiveness” and covid VE, you won’t find anything, in US, on this essential matter — though our dear CDC Director Rochelle Walensky is ‘weighing in’:

    “The largest concern that I think we in public health and sciences are worried about is that virus and potential mutations. . . the potential to evade our vaccine in terms of how it protects us from severe disease and death,” Walensky said last week.

    “Right now, fortunately, we are not there. These vaccines operate really well in protecting us from severe disease and death,” she said.

    “But the big concern is the next area that might emerge, just a few mutations potentially away, could potentially evade our vaccines,” the CDC director said.

    In other words: VE = 0 . . . . Zero vaccine effectiveness. This is the kernel of the on-purpose-created mass confusion, of which Walensky is directly complicit.

    Vaccines unable to prevent disease spread are worthless.

    As Dr. Meryl Nass, MD, put it: “This is called community spread, and when you cannot identify where the virus was picked up, and you refuse to treat contacts with effective post-exposure drugs, then Track and Trace is simply an expensive, bad joke.”

    And worse, the CDC director is trying to pretend she and her agency don’t know where the spread is originating!

    Walensky’s view can be put in perspective by one of the first big name MDs censored and shut down last year, Dr. Joseph Mercola.

    Stating the obvious, he says effective vaccines are expected to completely block infection, period. Since community spread can create catastrophe.

    Yet: this is what was promised just a few short months ago. . .safe and effective cov shots. . . and now the Walenskys are claiming they block serious disease, and does she believe it. . . and she also is saying things are getting out of control. . . .

    Mercola: “Viruses mutate all the time, and if you have a vaccine that doesn’t block infection completely, then the virus will mutate to evade the immune response within that person. That is one of the distinct features of the COVID shots — they’re not designed to block infection. They allow infection to occur and at best lessen the symptoms of that infection.”

    “In an unvaccinated person, the virus does not encounter the same evolutionary pressure to mutate into something stronger. So, if SARS-CoV-2 does end up mutating into more lethal strains, then mass vaccination is the most likely driver,” he said.

    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaccinated-people-key-role-evolution-dangerous-covid-variants/

    To sum up, what the science fiction likes of Walensky et al. are trying to obscure is that the overall VE for covid shots may end up being as bad as the 2018/2019 influenza season.

    Overall VE is how the CDC has always reported VE; and they would also break that down to subset by the different influenza strains and clades as need be.

    “Delta” is part of the “novel” corona subset. We’ll see what the data says — someday.

    The Israeli data at this time is ominous.

    What about the calamity of tens of thousands of after covid vax deaths.

    For this they also have no answer. For this some may eventually end up behind bars?

    And these fools and maniacs — could have prevented this great and unconscionable catastrophe of death and injury of who knows how many, and the permanent sterilization of women the world over, and in this country.

    -30-

    • blue peacock says:

      Jim,

      They’ll blame the unvaxxed. That’s already happening as Sam pointed out with the NYC edict on access to services.

      As you point out the covid vax is similar to the flu vax, not like the polio vax. It is not preventing infections. Sweden is a good counter-example. Low vax rate, no mask mandates and no lockdowns and practically zero covid deaths in the past several days.

      One problem that we have is that the CDC data is as good as useless. There’s no common standard on definition of what constitutes covid deaths or hospitalizations. We know that Alameda County, California counted those who died in a car crash but tested covid positive as covid death and then abruptly lowered covid death count by 25%. What are the current definitions? What is the data of vaxed vs unvaxxed deaths, hospitalizations & spreaders?

      One thing is clear – from the origins of the virus to the actual efficacy of the mask, lockdown & vax policies there’s no transparency. What & why are the hiding?

      • Jim says:

        You point out a key element, at root of the [in]ability to advance knowledge, surrounding all this [in our neo-Reality post March 2020 epoch]: “There’s no common standard.

        Exactly.

        In the science of data, when comparisons are made using entire populations [a census], — the element used to compare is called “parameter.”

        A random sample [as opposed to a census] of a population [census], — a random sample used to try and estimate a parameter is called a statistic.

        For example, US census for 2000 counted 245,002,472 people in category “Not Black or African American alone or in combination”; the 2010 census counted 266,724,795.

        One parameter that could be stated is 8.866% change in the “Not Black or African American alone or in combination” US population, to represent the 21,722,323 difference.

        In the category, “Black or African American alone”, this population, according to US census in
        2000 = 36,419,434, or 12 .9% [a parameter, based on population]
        2010 = 42,020,743, or 13 .6%

        The census bureau’s current estimate, from July 2019 for “Black or African American alone” = 13.4% of US population. This 13.4% is a statistics since is based on sampling and not on population.

        Soon enough we’ll know the parameter based on 2020 census of this proportion.

        I apologize this being long-winded, however, “There’s no common standard” comprehensively explain in particular the means being used, involving: how [and perhaps why] the public continue to get lied to and gas lighted on covid data, whether its the CDC claiming all the after vax deaths and permanent disabilities and hospitalizations and miscarriages and other injuries are just random events; and now also: on the confusion surrounding efficacy of the shots, or lack thereof.

        The government can claim until the cows come home that these are random events, all this carnage. And out of thin air claim this is normal. Yet we cannot know this because we have not been provided information to actually discern what normal is!

        Pay attention to the lack of any standard, or the scientific term: parameter, and more likely to use term, statistics — in other words, there should be an “expected” value of what actual “normal” looks like — be that the number of after vax deaths, . . . and those who get the shot and then get infected; get ill, get very ill, go to ER, and also those that die, after contracting disease, having gotten the shot.

        We are not being given the statistics — the expected values — of what should be at least an estimate of what might be considered “normal.”

        There is ample data at this time, and there has been more than ample data for quite some time, actually, to have figured all this out.

        Instead of sharing the data, we get a hysterical CDC director, a completely corrupt president, and a very sick man by the name of Fauci [et al.] throwing swill at us, instead of actual data, useful information. And this is all done on purpose.

        These criminals all know damn well what the data says. . . or at least, it is reasonable to infer they are all hiding the information as it would interfere with their ongoing narratives and propaganda efforts, in coordination with big tech and big media, to de-humanize us all, at the end of the day.

        And though it has been said many times many ways: were prophylactics such as zinc and the chloroquines and ivermectin etc. used, from day one, no later than Feb. 2020; there would be no pandemic. And failing that, were moderna pfizer covid shots safe and effective, there would be little resistance to taking them. There sure as hell would not be this all this threatening behavior and rhetoric only meant to intimidate and emasculate us from seeing clearly.

        The rhetoric itself are signs of great depravity amongst those who claim they are men and women of science, of medicine, who claim they are statesmen and stateswomen, who claim they are concerned about our public health.

        Their ongoing and continuous moral turpitude demon strate it is they with No Standards. For them: the ends justify the means — the very definition of Evil.

        -30-

  11. Jose Lopez says:

    Let’s switch to our woke military leadership and where we are going.

    This is so funny.

    https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/27/u-s-major-general-cant-take-the-heat-on-twitter-disgraces-the-u-s-military/

  12. Sam says:

    NIH director Francis Collins: “It may sound weird” but parents should wear masks at home in front of their unvaccinated kids

    https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1422576584607899655?s=21

    On one level it is astonishing that so many Americans accept this theater but on another level it shows how far we have fallen. How can such a fearful people ever fight to defend their land? Will Durant observed well the fall of great civilizations.

  13. walrus says:

    Covid19 is a fraud, a giant confidence trick, it doesn’t really exist. It’s an excuse for globalist conspirators to inject mind control nanotechnology hardware into earths population so that they can be controlled. In addition it’s an excuse to destroy civil liberties and turn us into unarmed serfs.

    Even if Covid19 does exist, it’s a mild disease that doesn’t kill fit healthy young people. It’s no worse that a common cold. The stories about it killing old or middle aged people are just made up to scare us into getting vaccinated. The old folk were going to die anyway from pre existing conditions and corrupt doctors simply labelled their deaths as caused by Covid19.

    If Covid19 even exists, it never came from animals. It was designed and developed by the Chinese at the Wuhan Virology Institute, assisted by traitors like George Soros, Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci and the American government. through the CDC and NIH. It was then deliberately spread by the Chinese in support of their plans for world domination.

    Covid19, if it exists, can be easily cured by taking cheap medicines such as Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine and perhaps a vitamin supplement. Drug companies and the Government are suppressing this information for profit. They want you to pay them for mind altering vaccines which either don’t work or deliberately make you sicker.

    Making people wear masks, lockdowns and restrictions on our freedoms don’t stop Covid19 from spreading. These rules are there to destroy our sense of freedom and turn us into mindless zombies who will do the governments bidding without question.

    I view the pandemic as a continuous exercise in human evolution. Those that choose not to live in the fact based community, and the families that they head, are going to die out. I had thought that the purveyors of the ideas listed above will die out too, but I think most of them are smart enough to be vaccinated and to have taken steps to protect their families from the toxic mental garbage they spew.

    • Serge says:

      walrus,
      Red herrings everywhere, look, it’s a fact that COVID 19 does not kill healthy young people. Last I checked here in Quebec there have been 25 deaths total of people under 40 from the disease since the start of SARS 2. And none of these people were healthy. That’s the amount of suicides we have per week among this same age group, on average, province-wide. Weren’t you crowing about how well your precious lockdowns and public health measures were working a few months back? And now you have martial law on your streets. Sad! If you are elderly or sick, by all means take the vax. But don’t destroy the lives of those that face zero risk from this disease.

      • walrus says:

        Funny Serge, our two week lockdown has worked pretty well against the delta variant. The virus also just killed a healthy twenty something guy in the next state. He complained of fatigue but wouldn’t go to hospital. On day 13 he suddenly collapsed and died.

        https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-nsw-updates-man-in-20s-dies-sydney/38d6a90a-d572-45d3-8a27-d529d7939003

        • Fred says:

          Walrus,

          Which two week lockdown are you refering too as Melbourne had its 5th lockdown already?

          “…a healthy twenty something guy in the next state.”

          “A” would be singular, as in 1 (one)
          “in the next state” means it’s not near you.
          The headline you linked too: “Died suddenly” is that 5 minutes, 30 minutes? NO! It’s not even one day or two, but 13 days as you point out.

          “Chief Health Officer Kerry Chant said he was being cared for by the southwestern Sydney local health district.”

          What did they do besides imprison him and his wife at home? “That death is also being referred to the coroner as I understand it.”

          I look forward to the updates from the coroner’s report.

    • jld says:

      “I view the pandemic as a continuous exercise in human evolution.”

      I fully agree with this part, however I am placing my bet somewhat differently.
      I stated several times that we are in a sort of Darwin Awards Olympiads 😀

    • Barbara Ann says:

      walrus

      Not to worry, the authorities have it in hand. Now that the State is (in Jacinda Ardern’s words) our “single source of truth” and Big Tech enforcers are suppressing anything that diverges from it, we can all look forward to a bright New Normal future.

      Those of us spewing toxic mental garbage, like support for personal liberties, will probably need to be taken into custody to protect our families from this extremist ideology. In fact why not give evolution a helping hand to kill off such ideas. After all, Build Back Better is all about the Greater Good.

    • Cynthia says:

      One of my best friends and her sister both died from COVID. Neither was vaccinated.

  14. Deap says:

    One recent article said it best: we need more frontal cortex thinking; and less amygdala thinking. More rational thought based on facts and reason; and less emotional reactions based on fear and drama.

    Amygdala – we are all gonna to die from the Zombie Apocalypse
    Frontal Cortex – “covid” needs to be considered a low grade nuisance

  15. Barbara Ann says:

    Was in the garden last week when I heard a loud bang on the kitchen window. I looked round just in time to see what looked like a pigeon flying right at my head, being hotly pursued by a kestrel. I ducked and watched the first bird crash headlong into thick undergrowth on our boundary. The kestrel saw me and flew off. I searched a while in the foliage to no avail. About two hours later I happened to be passing again when a collared dove flew up from the same spot. It must have been stunned. Never seen a kestrel take on anything that size before and certainly not up close.

    • Pat Lang says:

      Barbara Ann

      The pigeon must have been as big as the hawk.

      • Barbara Ann says:

        Sure was, that was what was so amazing – a kestrel that thinks it’s a peregrine falcon! Frankly from the noise it made hitting the window I couldn’t believe the pigeon could still fly. Tough old bird.

  16. Ishmael Zechariah says:

    A US colleague sent the following bit of humor:
    ” I took down my Rebel flag (which you can’t buy on EBAY any more) and peeled the NRA sticker off my rear window.
    I disconnected my home alarm system and quit the candy-ass Neighborhood Watch.
    I bought two Pakistani flags and put one at each corner of the front yard.
    Then I purchased the black flag of ISIS (which you CAN Buy on EBAY) and ran it up the flag pole.
    Now the local police, sheriff, FBI, CIA, NSA, Homeland Security, Secret Service and other agencies are all watching my house 24/7.
    I’ve NEVER felt safer and I’m saving $69.95 a month that ADT used to charge me.
    Plus, I bought burkas for me to wear when I shop or travel. Everyone moves out of the way and security can’t pat me down.
    If they say I’m a male wearing a burka, I just say I’m feeling like a woman today.
    Hot Damn… Safe at last. “

    We all had a good laugh but then wondered if someone could actually do this. What do pilgrims think would happen?
    Hope the West gets a grip on reality soon.
    Pax
    Ishmael Zechariah

    • Serge says:

      A quibble: the seal of the prophet flag has not been available on ebay since 2014. Minor criticism in the list, but it’s not that minor because I often see deplatformed right wingers using the talking point of complaining about ISIS propaganda being freely available on the internet compared to their situation, when this is flat-out wrong. The concerted tech company deplatforming of ISIS in 2014 in cooperation with various alphabet soup agencies was THE blueprint by which the right wing was later deplatformed in late 2010s

  17. Fred says:

    Since it is “reasonable” to conclude that evicting people will force them to move and thus spread Covid, is it not also reasonable that the CDC should stop voluntary moves and, cough cough, flying cross country, like to that gay beach party super-spreader event we can’t mention, or Barack’s Covid-free birthday bash? Or the international border.

    ” I have determined based on the information below that issuing a temporary halt in evictions in counties experiencing substantial or high levels of COVID-19 transmission constitutes a reasonably necessary measure under 42 CFR 70.2 to prevent the further spread of COVID-19 throughout the United States. ”
    Rochelle P. Walensky, M.D., M.P.H. Director,
    Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/communication/Signed-CDC-Eviction-Order.pdf

  18. jschoppee says:

    Was naively hoping to see key lawmakers protect the troops from mandatory COVAX – haven’t seen any evidence that’s going to happen and nothing heard from my inquiries to my Congressional representation from Alaska. For me, 15 years into the system about to be wiped away to avoid the jab.

  19. English Outsider says:

    Walrus – two or three points that may be peripheral but haven’t yet been cleared up.

    1. Aspiration. This is done as a matter of course in Denmark, which is one of the benchmark countries for handling the pandemic so far. It’s standard procedure for other injections in the UK according to the regs. Yet it’s not being done for Covid jabs in the UK and I don’t see it mentioned much elsewhere.

    It’s a simple enough standard procedure. It makes sure the vaccine goes into the muscle and not directly into the blood supply. Do you know why it’s not being done everywhere?

    2. Also from Denmark I’m getting uneasy indications that they’re worried about the possibility of variants developing as a result of the unvaccinated in contact with the vaccinated. Seems logical given that vaccination doesn’t offer full protection against catching the disease. The virus is given lots of chances at getting round the vaccine.

    This is important. I and many others have gone off forced NPI’s in a big way but that doesn’t mean that voluntary control measures are redundant. Voluntary control measures are taken by most as a result of advice given out by bodies such as the CDC. They’re not advising on this subject as far as I have seen and nor are the UK medical authorities.

    In fact they have been advising the reverse in the UK – advising or at least indicating that the double jabbed vulnerable are more or less OK getting out and about as normal. But if there is a possibility of variants developing more easily as a result then that’s illogical. Any views on that? Should they be advising the double jabbed vulnerable to carry on limiting possible contacts?

    3. Ivermectin. It’s harmless. Many reputable medics and scientists are saying it’s useful. Why the ban?

    • Pat Lang says:

      EO
      Why should we not expect an endless parade of variants?

      • English Outsider says:

        Colonel Lang – that must happen, must it not? I just hope we don’t get a real killer of a variant. Plenty of time for one to brew up given it seems many populations won’t be vaccinated to any degree for years.

        The dogmatic certainties of the early days have blurred and the only thing I’m now sure of is that for any of the vulnerable, particularly in the older age groups, it’s a far better bet taking the chances of vaccination than taking the chances of catching Covid.

        So I’m content to have had the vaccine, though I’m not at all sure that it hasn’t had something of an effect on my fitness. But a couple of of the family, young, had the disease itself and it’s left one of them weak as a kitten. So it seems one can be got either way.

        It’s the compulsion I didn’t like. Most are perfectly capable of taking precautions for themselves and others without some dubious politician imposing virtual martial law.

        Since the subject is being discussed in this part of your site, might I take this opportunity of wishing you and your wife well.

        • Fred says:

          EO,

          “I just hope we don’t get a real killer of a variant. ”

          The Chinese will release that one as soon as enough of the Westerners are vaccinated with the mRNA varient vaccines.

      • Sam says:

        Col. Lang,

        Endless variants is to be expected. The dangerous ones are those that escape the single spike protein based immunity.

        Big Pharma and the fascists are in love with the mutants. They don’t have to bring the hammer down when obedience is so easily garnered.

    • Sam says:

      EO,

      Data from Denmark shows masks are covid theater.

      • English Outsider says:

        You sure, Sam? I think that was last week. Or maybe it’s next week. As of this week I think masks are in.

        Until they’re not. Just do what they say or we may have to be quite firm with you –

        https://twitter.com/i/status/1421790015806377990

        https://twitter.com/i/status/1421885043706793986

        Just happened to see it flipping through ZH. I’m happening to see quite a lot of that.

        I’m easy enough myself with the authorities running round in circles on masks and other issue. It’s a see how it goes and running round in circles sort of time. That’s my opinion. I’m not easy with people who have other opinions being handled like recalcitrant livestock.

        This is no way for a free society to tackle a public health crisis.

        • Barbara Ann says:

          EO

          You may appreciate this. A clip from an old Doctor Who episode that surely deserves to be turned into a Covid Vaxx mandate meme:

          CDC bot says “Do not be alarmed, this is a kindness”

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x568dCo8T9s

          • English Outsider says:

            Pointed. I’m glad she got away.

            Should say, I’m very much of Walrus’ general opinion here. I do believe, however, that those who aren’t shouldn’t be coerced or mishandled.

            And from Mr Newhill I take the message – or perhaps construct it from what he says – that we’re messing up our handling of the pandemic because few, including the statisticians, will accept the obvious. That public health measures appropriate to the inner city Somali areas of Sweden, and similar commnities elsewhere in the States and Europe. don’t translate well to such quite different communities as those in South Dakota.

  20. walrus says:

    EO, yes! Aspiration may be the way to avoid those blood clots. Research is ongoing but it appears to confirm it.

    We are double jabbed with AZ the government advice is to still mask up and take precautions because while we seem to have got rid of delta at the moment, the State next door has it bad and we can’t completely seal the border. There will be leaks and some will carry delta.

    As of tonight we have another outbreak in the same #4#a muslim school that started the one last year. I kid you not. We have certain middle eastern immigrants who. don’t give a fig for any law but allahs and it looks like the delta variant is amongst them AGAIN.

    As for more variants, yes of course we will get them whether we vaccinate or not. Viral infection and mutation is a statistical process and each one of us that is exposed to it is a brand new experiment. Same as flu. We are going to need a booster each year as for flu.

    The point is that the future prospect of variants is not sufficient excuse for not protecting ourselves against the ones we already have.

    • Eric Newhill says:

      Walrus,
      I begin to think that you’re not just hiding the corner quivering in fear, but have sunk every penny you have into the stock of one (or all) of the companies that make the vaccine. That’s the only rational explanation for your position, which boils down to:
      1. If there’s even one tenth of a percent chance that something unpleasant might happen to your precious ass, then turn the world upside down and let others face a chance of a bad outcome – The Cheney doctrine taken to an even greater extreme than the neocons would have dared to entertain.
      2. In a crisis (defined by a small chance of something unpleasant happening to your aforementioned precious ass), real or imagined, freedom and individual rights are dangerous and must be dispensed with ASAP. The government and it surrogates must have complete control of our lives.
      3. In a government declared crisis, trust the government and its surrogates (e.g. news media) completely and without question. Shut up and do what they say.

      As for your Darwin nonsense. Pretty sure my unvaxxed ass, like millions of others, will be here long after you’re gone. And you know that the hottest women prefer the “bad boys”. Thus the unvaxxed will out breed in both number and quality. Your allies’ few spike protein deformed weakling get shall not inherit the earth.

      • Sam says:

        The fact is that natural immune response to covid infection provides better protection from getting reinfected than the single spike protein jabs.

        Vaxxed are getting infected and more importantly are also spreaders.

        Of course Moderna is worth $160 billion, a 20x gain since early 2020. They were dead on the vine until covid and Trump gave them $400 million in a liability free deal. What’s not to like if you’re Bancel.

    • Mal says:

      walrus, why not drink the cool aide, and get an experimental cv19 ‘shot’ every other month, or maybe read up on ADE first………….

      Cheers, Mal

    • English Outsider says:

      Walrus – there are still two points I’m not happy about in the UK.

      Aspiration is not only entirely harmless, it’s normal procedure. So in this case there’s no sense in waiting for further research. They could just do it and thus eliminate at least one suspected variable.

      On Ivermectin, I can see the argument that it could possibly be risky to allow it to be an over the counter drug. But here the issue is that in the UK the doctors themselves aren’t allowed to prescribe it if they see fit. Yet in the States some doctors are using it – it’s all over the EVMS protocol or its successor – and are reporting success with it.

      In the first case we can only be looking at bureaucratic inertia. In the second, it might be that or herd instinct, but it could also be pressure from drug companies wanting to market their own wares.

      The fact that in the UK the medical authorities just ignore the issue does give grounds for suspecting the latter.

  21. longarch says:

    “CodeMonkey” Watkins has been featured on the Gateway Pundit, a site popular with Trump supporters.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/codemonkeyz-bombshell-dominion-whistleblower-speaks-releases-admin-password-proving-remote-access-video/

    Large groups of Trump supporters claim that they have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump’s re-election was stolen, and they do not seem inclined to sit back and wait for 2022 elections to demand the removal of Biden.

    A pithy 77-second film summarizing some evidence is viewable at:

    https://t.me/CodeMonkeyZ/1011

    In my opinion, Biden and his team should simply surrender themselves to the special subset of police who arrest crooked politicians — I believe that is a subset of the United States Marshals Service.

  22. Bob Blake says:

    Am I the only one here who questions the blind acceptance that Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine are safe and endlessly presented as the suppressed solution for curing Covid. Look them up on Vapers or any other medical sight and read the potential side effects. These side effects will, without a doubt, happen to X number of people. Now take that percentage number of side effects and assume for a moment that instead of Covid vaccines being used it was Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine. I have. Go do the math based on use by hundreds of millions of patients with respect to the total number of side effects. I have. You can do it by exercising a modicum of effort. Perhaps Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine would be useful. But any medical procedure or drug comes with a physical cost for some. Do the math before you blithely say “It is safe.” Ignorance has no excuse.

    • Mal says:

      Bob, has anyone ‘died’ from taking Ivermectin? That’s a major side effect. How many people have died from taking ‘the juice’. Iver and Hydro are part of a set of protocols, used in conjunction with high doses of vitamins and supplements to ‘mitigate the side effects’ of catching cv19……….and the info is not suppressed.
      Adults can make their own decision on the validity of a 2 dose vaccine that only confers 16% immunity from cv19 after 6 months, sounds more like a ‘medicine’. As Eric Clapton said “the propaganda they told us was, the vaccine is perfectly safe” it wasn’t, he’s up on YouTube, you can turn over your own rocks to find him.

      Cheers, M

      • Serge says:

        Mal,
        Much more people are taking the vax than taking Ivermectin though. I’m sure if the numbers were similar we’d see lots of Ivermectin-related issues popping up. The number of people that have died from the juice is pretty low all things considered. That’s not the issue, the issue is that the vaccines don’t work for those not at risk for COVID, and moreover this specific population is the only one at risk for the notable vaccine side effects identified thus far. In the Janssen vax case, it’s young women and in the MRNA vax case it’s young men. Neither populations derive any benefit whatsoever from getting vaxed.

        • jld says:

          “I’m sure if the numbers were similar we’d see lots of Ivermectin-related issues popping up”

          😀 😀 😀 The numbers are not “similar”, there is A HUGE number of people in Africa and India taking Ivermectin for anti-parasitic purposes, NO issues are “popping up”.

    • JK/AR says:

      https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/antiviral-therapy/ivermectin/

      So far as my familiarity where HCQ is concerned – not much. However I would look back to when then, President Trump – a real estate guy – in a, to me, seemingly ‘off-the-cuff’ manner mentioned HCQ might be efficacious I thought to myself “Hmmm .. Now how would a real estate guy get a clue about any pharmaceutical product’s being effective against a disease .. Maybe some Doctor (who has access to a President!) mentioned it?” River water under the bridge now though.

      But in retrospect I’m of a mind that, given the off-the-charts emotional distress that Trump’s kicking Hillary’s butt caused all the vested interests, it was a set-up.

      And a very effective set-up at that.

      • Deap says:

        The ‘real estate guy” was long known as a germaphobe. Assuming this would make him interested in the topic of disease transmission and prevention. Not sure how this alleged disorder manifested in his day to day conduct. But it gives credibility to not just hooking up with any old storm battered porn stars; or peeing on Russian hotel beds.

        • JK/AR says:

          Yes. I’d forgotten that Deap.

          So, a fair point. Still, HCQ usage wise, seems to me kind of a stretch. I mean, Scotland [the golf course] isn’t exactly a dangerzone for catching malaria and I don’t recall Ronny Jackson MD mentioning his [Trump] suffering from either rheumatoid arthritis or lupus so to my mind anyway, I consider his mentioning hydroxychloroquine off-labeled in the context of the Rona … oh I dunno, “un-characteristic” maybe?

      • cirsium says:

        President Trump referred to HCQ because he had read a letter written by Dr Vladimir Zelenko, a family physician, who was successfully treating his patients using HCQ, zinc and doxycycline (https://archive.is/iBZFZ). His treatment protocol was based on the work of Professor Didier Raoult. A couple of days after putting the letter out, Dr Zelenko was contacted by President Trump’s Chief of Staff and asked to give a briefing. His understanding was that President Trump was to open the stockpiles and authorise the use of HCQ for early treatment. Unfortunately, President Trump’s order was not acted on by key staff so that HCQ was authorised for use in hospitals only not for early treatment of outpatients. Based on his work, Dr Zelenko thinks that 85% of the COVID deaths could have been avoided if early treatment had been permitted. He calls it genocide by corruption and a crime against humanity.

    • Deap says:

      CDC Traveler website continues to recommend hydroxychloroquine, touting its long standing safe use, when traveling to malaria prone countries. Where is also is sold OTC.

      Long term dosing recommended for those with certain condition like Lupus may be where one sees any associated side effects. The hydroxychloroquine dosing protocol for “covid” appears to be short-term only and situational to known exposure.

      At the very beginning of this “covid” adventure PubMed – the NIH Library ofMedicine research engine did pull up a French study suggesting the efficacy of hydroxycloroquine. for this emerging “pandemic”, so Trump was not off the wall when he suggested it could be a hopeful approach.

      So Fauci claiming hydroxychloroquine was unsafe, while the CDC website was claiming its use was safe at the exact same time, gave early pause to what was the real agenda between the deep state, the Democrats and the 2020 election.

      One hand did not know what the other hand was doing, so there had to be sinister intent for such public stupidity. That was the real message I got from this entire “covid” media porn takeover.

  23. JK/AR says:

    Well now.

    Maybe best to ditch the ivermectin then drive up to Missouri (Arkansas taxes add three bucks per & since, for me Missouri’s a mere nine mile drive)

    https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/21501327211024391

  24. walrus says:

    I see the error of my ways and humbly beg forgiveness.

    I was foolish to trust and take the advice of a Nobel Prize winning Professor and two other Professors and a leading virologist, all of whom live in this city and two of them I have known for years.

    Peter Doherty and his colleague won the Nobel prize for describing how the body’s’ immune system responds to viruses. He and the three others are advising Governments and the WHO, investigating the virus and supervising cutting edge research today.

    But what would they know? The fact that every one of their predictions has happened is obviously a series of lucky guesses. Google and websites are much smarter. Not.

  25. Deap says:

    Take a trip to any tropics zone country, and load up on OTC hydroxycholoquine. People are getting ivermectin at ag animal product stores from what I have heard too. I suspect both are easy to get at any Mexican pharmacy, borderlands or cruise port stops. A surprising port stop for just about any popularly used US pharmaceutical sold OTC was Valletta Malta. I had to track down contact lens solutions on a wide-ranging global travel once, and learned a lot. Too heavy to pack large amounts of liquids, so I went searching on local markets.

  26. Just a minor, frivolous thought:
    If you visit this webpage:
    https://golem.ph.utexas.edu/category/2021/07/large_sets_12.html
    and quickly scroll to the bottom
    you will see that you have the option of viewing the many comments either threaded or chronologically.
    Allowing one to see to see what the most recent comments are.
    Does whatever SW you are currently using have such an option?

  27. Sam says:

    Ask yourself if six months ago you expected, based on the public pronouncements of “experts,” that vaxxed people would be walking around with massive viral loads? That’s what’s called a “reality check.”

    https://twitter.com/luigi_warren/status/1422892443305869315?s=21

    Yup. Fauci and the covidians were saying vax prevent infection not too long ago. Of course Fauci also said masks not necessary until it was mandatory. Why is this mass killer still have a job? He should be testifying to a grand jury for mass murder.

  28. JerseyJeffersonian says:

    Very interesting news on a double-blind study on the efficaciousness of Ivermectin as a treatment for those with a Covid-19 infection. The link I attach includes a scribd document that you can read to supplement any excerpts posted in the article. N.B.: The article continues after the scribd document, and I highly recommend that you read this also. Here the important point is made that repurposed drugs that exhibit salutary effects against Covid-19 can, and should be used. Time is crucial, and waiting for new remedies to be developed may be needlessly condemning people to suffer or die. The point is also made that usage of repurposed pharmaceuticals may help to choke off the spread of the virus.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/double-blind-ivermectin-study-reveals-covid-19-patients-recover-more-quickly-have-reduce

    Interesting that potential treatments for Covid-19 are being seriously studied in Israel now that disappointing results from “vaccination” on the the actual prevention of infection of those fully “vaccinated”, as well as worries about the infectiousness of the fully “vaccinated” who have themselves become infected has arisen as a genuine concern.

    Of course, the Israelis don’t have an election to obfuscate in which easily corruptible mail-in voting was forced on the electorate (’cause we’re all gonna die if we vote in person, ya know), so their minds are instead focused on solutions rather than perpetuating a cover-up of fraud.

  29. Sam says:

    More data in support of viral loads being the same in vaccinated and unvaccinated people, this time from Wisconsin:

    https://twitter.com/apoorva_nyc/status/1422375380158193678?s=21

    Change the goalposts! Vax works great.

    Being essential, low income workers took the brunt of lockdowns with high infection rates. Now they are discriminated against a second time, for having excellent immunity from COVID disease instead of vaccines.

    https://twitter.com/martinkulldorff/status/1422923454295257096?s=21

    Harvard professor of medicine was canceled for dissenting from groupthink.

  30. Barbara Ann says:

    Powerful Fox op-ed on Covid tyranny from Rand Paul, says “They can’t arrest us all”.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/mask-mandates-lockdown-choose-freedom-sen-rand-paul

  31. jld says:

    This is a video of “general interest” for ALL entangled in our troubled times.
    Totalitarianism is not a new disease but it is certainly much more damaging when supported by technology.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4M

  32. JerseyJeffersonian says:

    The government of Australia points the way to tyranny. But this Australian senator has some things to say against this, logically, forcefully, and eloquently. Probably, as here in the US, his is an isolated voice among legislators raised against State violence – social, financial, and sadly, now physical – being deployed against the citizenry. This is what inevitably happens when the State disallows dissent and debate, instead relying upon their monopoly on all of these forms of violence to compel submission. Hearken to this man’s words, and take heed against our growing peril of the same thuggishness being deployed against us:

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/08/04/australian-senator-malcolm-roberts-if-the-government-can-decide-who-is-free-and-who-is-not-there-is-no-freedom-only-tyranny/#more-214953

  33. Sam says:

    For the history books… Genesis of the project that put mRNA on the map for the first time and led to the foundation of Moderna.

    https://twitter.com/luigi_warren/status/1423302724834119681?s=21

    Moderna wasn’t successful with mRNA for therapeutics. Covid and Trump made them a $160 billion market cap business. They need subscription model for covid vaxx. Mutants and covid hysteria are necessary ingredients. Bancel is an overnight billionaire.

    • Deap says:

      Missing link: was Trump confounded by “covid: or in collusion over “covid”.

      I still think the former, because he paid a terrible price and became its primary victim – from the Democrat “covid” agenda, not the actual bug.

      Health science fluency is not in a typical politicians resume. Yet in this case, critical alarm bells sounded that were ignored to all our detriment – Fauci and Brix – should have been canned immediately for gross malfeasance.

      (I do have a long background in health sciences so I say this with total confidence, having been down the Fauci crazy train over HIV several decades ago so I knew he was a crook and was shocked he had not been run out of town decades ago. )

      But politics required both Fauci and Brix be kept on. That was one huge tragic flaw that only Trump must take credit for letting it happen. He tried to take this down a better path, but got buried in the media and the politics. And maybe the allure of taking credit for the “cure”? That would be his nemesis; his hubristic fall.

  34. Deap says:

    National Library of Medicine PubMed data base research link: Ivermectin
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=ivermectin

  35. Deap says:

    NIH – PubMed link: Hydroxycholorquinine

    NB: one study “proving” it was ineffective and dangerous was the VA Hospital study conducted on a small group to patients already in extremis with serious co-moridities; not as a preventive or early dosing therapeutic.

    (This was a calculated outcome study, early in the pre-vaccine days when experimental approval demanded there were NO available therapeutics. So this was a perfectly designed “study” to prove just that – picking a highly frail patient group already in later stages of life due to many confounding conditions)

  36. Deap says:

    Sorry, forgot to include the link: NIH PUbMed Hydroxychloroquine: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=hydroxychloroquine

  37. Sam says:

    “95% of the severe patients are vaccinated”.
    “85-90% of the hospitalizations are in Fully vaccinated people.”
    “We are opening more and more COVID wards.”
    “The effectiveness of the vaccine is waning/fading out”

    (Dr. Kobi Haviv, earlier today on Chanel 13 @newsisrael13 )

    https://twitter.com/ranisraeli/status/1423322271503028228?s=21

    Of course the covidians will blame the unvaxxed. They’ve got the megaphone as the fascists control all levers of power.

  38. Deap says:

    Nothing new under the sun – history of prior “pandemics” sound pretty familiar, before China started bugging us .First it was the Russian Flu, then the Spanish Flu ……

    From MOTUS:

    “Thursday, August 5, 2021
    Throwback Thursday: Plandemic Edition
    The very first modern influenza pandemic was known as the Russian flu or “La Grippe.”
    plague of 18921889-1992 and still going strong

    The disease likely emerged somewhere in the Russian Empire in 1889 and quickly spread around the world in successive waves. It took only four months to hit every part of the globe, with the United States seeing its peak in January 1890. More than a million people (of the 1.5 billion on earth) were killed worldwide in that first wave.

    Apparently it lasted into 1892 and spawned some great conspiracy theories regarding its origin including electric lights.

    On January 31, 1890, the European edition of the New York Herald ran an item suggesting that the electric light was somehow responsible for a global influenza outbreak. After all, “the disease has raged chiefly in towns where the electric light is in common use,” the article noted, and went on to note that the disease “has everywhere attacked telegraph employees.”

    The medical world hadn’t yet discovered viruses so light bulbs seemed as likely as anything.

    I think they’d given up on the Edison theory of pandemic by the time the 1918 Spanish Flu rolled around, but had spawned the face mask theory of containment for recently discovered viruses so small nobody could see them.

    Wear a mask or go to jail (image):
    Which, over a hundred years later, remains the predominant theory of virus control.

    But here’s an interesting note from the field of microbial biotechnology, which is well documented at Legal Insurrection: Clinical evidence that the pandemic from 1889 to 1892, commonly called the Russian flu, might have been an earlier coronavirus pandemic – which has now evolved from a serious pathogen into just another common cold virus.

    The article observes that the Russian Flu had several cycles of infection worldwide beginning in late 1889 with recurrences in March to June 1891, November 1891 to June 1892, winter of 1893–1894, and early 1895, and concludes with the question as to whether we really wish to continue this drama for the next 6 years.

    I know some do, but for the sane among us it’s time we rethink the COVID-response strategy along the lines of Governor DeSantis: ‘I Don’t Wanna Hear a Blip About COVID From You’ Until You Secure the Border.”

  39. Sam says:

    The CDC is admitting something they don’t normally admit about those with the jab…. that a high percentage of the double jabbed have ‘you know what’ . I had to listen a few times to make sure I wasn’t hearing things!

    https://twitter.com/gillianmckeith/status/1423310928452460544?s=21

    When State TV is reporting this, it must be getting serious to rollout the subscription model.

  40. Sam says:

    Moderna says we’ll need COVID-19 booster shots this fall, predicting protection will wane from its vaccine

    https://www.businessinsider.com/moderna-need-covid-19-booster-shots-by-winter-protection-wanes-2021-8

    subscription model being rolled out. Need it to maintain market cap and Bancel’s billionaire status.

    • Razumov says:

      Corona viruses constantly mutate, so if vaccines for each new one are going to be mandatory now, this is an unbelievably profitable business model.

      • walrus says:

        No it’s not. Most of the world can’t afford more than a few cents per dose. Vaccines are easy to produce in quantity and there are already at least half a dozen competing designs.

        Pfizer and others are getting a temporary boost but when third world plus Russia, China and India ramp up production the price will fall – except of course in the dysfunctional U.S system.

        In addition these are “generation 1” vaccines which will no doubt require boosters like flu does. In five to ten years we will have cheaper “generation 2” covid vaccines which will last for five to ten years.

        • Razumov says:

          200 million Americans forced to vaccinate every year at $15 a shot = $3 billion in guaranteed sales by contract with the state.

          Big pharma can insulate itself from cheap foreign competition as far as the American market is concerned.

          “New analysis by the Alliance shows that the firms Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna are charging governments as much as $41 billion above the estimated cost of production. Colombia, for example, has potentially overpaid by as much as $375 million for its doses of the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, in comparison to the estimated cost price.”

          https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/vaccine-monopolies-make-cost-vaccinating-world-against-covid-least-5-times-more

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          https://www.ft.com/content/d415a01e-d065-44a9-bad4-f9235aa04c1a

          “Pfizer raised the price of its Covid-19 vaccine by more than a quarter and Moderna by more than a tenth in the latest EU supply contracts as Europe battled supply disruptions and concerns about side effects from rival products.

          The groups are set to generate tens of billions of dollars in revenue this year as they sign new deals with countries anxious to secure supplies for potential booster shots in the face of the spread of the highly infectious Delta coronavirus variant.

          The terms of the deals, struck this year for a total of up to 2.1bn shots until 2023, were renegotiated after phase 3 trial data showed their messenger ribonucleic acid vaccines had higher efficacy rates than cheaper shots developed by Oxford/AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson.”

          https://www.ft.com/content/d415a01e-d065-44a9-bad4-f9235aa04c1a

  41. JerseyJeffersonian says:

    Well, well, die lügende Presse (the lieing press) takes a step back. I wouldn’t get my hopes up too much, but maybe even some of these people have a conscience.

    https://summit.news/2021/08/03/editor-in-chief-of-germanys-top-newspaper-apologizes-for-fear-driven-covid-coverage/

    Somebody once said, suffer the little children, not make the little children suffer. That’s quite a distinction, there.

  42. JK/AR says:

    Good comment below submitted by one Matthias Fox responding on this thread:

    https://www.acsh.org/news/2021/05/07/im-ivermectin-hesitant-15535

    But then as time passes and more questions/doubts arise:

    https://www.acsh.org/news/2021/07/07/could-we-be-wrong-about-ivermectin-and-covid-19-15646

    What occasioned this comment was that, this very morning 05 AUG 21 I drove my live-in-girlfriend (SWMBO? – I don’t know what that means – she & I though were “an item” in our very early 1970s high school. Only *reuniting [2015] upon my sending a “Congrats to 1972” but in the meantime, separate lives lived)

    Anyway I drove her to a medical visit this morning which, to wit: resulted in a VAERS submission.

    Her personal physician and I later engaged in a lively discussion.

    • JerseyJeffersonian says:

      She Who Must Be Obeyed.

      It is a phrase, to the best of my information, originating in an old fantasy/adventure/lost civilization novel from H. Rider Haggard entitled “She”. “She” was a white woman lording it over an African tribe, who had apparently discovered the secret of eternal life. “She” (this was the only way in which she was identified, no name other than “she” was ever mentioned), to the tribals, must be obeyed upon penalties too dire to contemplate. With such a force to reckon with, the only way was, indeed, to obey.

      In the usage you have encountered hereabouts, this is a loving apellation applied to one’s lady, to whom it were best to heed, and yes, obey.

      There is a song by the guitar virtuoso, Adrian Belew, in which a “discussion” with his wife is described in which the conversation culminated with her stating, “You better watch out, skinny boy; I might bite a big hole in ya.” This is the archetype of SWMBO under provocation.

      • Deap says:

        SWMBO not to be confused with a woman wearing a tee shirt that says “I am out of estrogen and I have a gun”.

    • walrus says:

      The only way to know for sure is a properly designed double blind placebo controlled trial. To do otherwise allows personal bias to creep in.

      The one such trial I am aware of measured virus shedding in moderately ill patients and that appears to show Ivermectin has definite anti viral activity in that recipients of ivermectin shed less virus, however that is a very long way from proving Ivermectin is a cure.

      Meta analysis of anything except double blind trials unfortunately does little more than suggest the design of a definitive double blind trial.

      • Deap says:

        An adequate therapeutic does not need to be a cure – just sufficient mitigation of symptoms and eventual course of the condition.

        Except when Fauci wants to set the end point goal posts, according to his own mysterious agenda. I suspect any “covid” therapeutic the does not also send gold bricks out of the hind quarters, will not be good enough for him.

  43. Barbara Ann says:

    Did anyone notice the suspension of private property rights in America earlier this week? Tucker did:

    “It’s hard to overstate what a momentous change this is. It means among other things that private property no longer exists in the United States. You thought you owned your home. Not anymore. Rochelle Walensky does. She’ll decide who can live there, under what circumstance and for how long”

    Tucker Carlson on the CDC (yes, the CDC) executive order on Tuesday. But it’s OK folks it’s apparently done under public health legislation and for the Greater Good. CDC says: “This moratorium is the right thing to do to keep people in their homes and out of congregate settings where COVID-19 spreads”.

    You thought Klaus Schwab was joking about you owning nothing by 2030? We’re through the looking glass folks.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-rochelle-walensky-private-property

    • walrus says:

      READ the CDC order. It says that having a lot of people moving around because they have been evicted will exacerbate the pandemic. Therefore no evictions just now. The logic is correct, I think, but I’m surprised that the CDC gets to make what is essentially a political decision.

      • Deap says:

        The logic to support the no evictions mandate is not correct, it is pure fantasy. More baseless than Trump’s concerns about election fraud.

        Landlords are greedy GOP’s in the Democrat universe – punish the fat cats. Let’s use covid to do that too. Housing is a right after all, not a bargained for commodity.

        What is yours is now mine. Democrat rules that are quickly being applied to everything -no criminal charges if you were shoplifting only what you “needed”. Your house is no longer your house. Squatter rules …. another “covid” home run.

      • Barbara Ann says:

        walrus

        Sorry, just picked up your response.

        I am not at all surprised that an unelected CDC official now gets to dictate private property ownership rights. The war on the pandemic is following the GWOT model. Just as the AUMF delegated war making powers to the Pentagon, the CDC has (or at least acts like it has) enormous delegated power from Congress. It has been empowered to fight the pandemic regardless of the impact on civil liberties, with public health powers analogous to the Patriot Act. In your own country this has already led to something approaching martial law.

        The New Normal of forever public health warfare has been embraced by political leaders across the world. I think the Global War on Mortality (GWOM) is here to stay, although to what extent this has been accepted as a fait accompli by the citizenry remains to be seen.

        “The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants” – Camus

    • JerseyJeffersonian says:

      Barbara Ann, and other members of the Committee,

      James Kunstler certainly noticed this, and that occasioned a major part of the commentary in his latest post.

      https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-very-fine-people-of-a-civilized-society/

      He detailed why this is an ominous development for the US economy, and more broadly, for the cause of liberty. The post is worthy of a reading.

  44. Deap says:

    How many more way can you cheat elections in California, besides using Dominion machines state wide and SEIU employees to count the votes?

    How about being able to down load and print out your own ballots. …..”if you have been affected by covid” — ready to go online right before the Sept 14 Recall Election:
    https://freedomfirstnetwork.com/2021/08/exclusive-california-democrats-audit-proof-voter-fraud-mechanism-rolls-out-ahead-of-newsom-recall-vote

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