The Saudi Government is an illusion.

Can you name these scoundrels?

“The FBI has released a newly declassified document that looks into connections between Saudi citizens in the US and two of the 9/11 attackers.

Relatives of victims have long urged the release of the files, arguing Saudi officials had advance knowledge but did not try to stop the attacks.

But the document provides no evidence that the Saudi government was linked to the 9/11 plot.

Fifteen of the 19 plane hijackers were Saudi nationals.

Ahead of the declassification, the Saudi embassy in Washington welcomed the release and once again denied any link between the kingdom and the hijackers, describing such claims as “false and malicious”.

The document was declassified on the 20th anniversary of the deadliest terror attacks on US soil – almost 3,000 people were killed after four planes were hijacked – and is the first of several expected to be released.

Some families of the victims had put pressure on President Joe Biden to declassify the documents, saying he should not attend Saturday’s commemoration ceremonies in New York if he was not prepared to release them.” BBC

Comment: Saudi Arabia is a wholly owned enterprise run for the benefit of the “royal” family and its mega-rich cronies and allies. We are talking about a few thousand people. Most Saudi subjects are narrow minded and ignorant supporters of the Wahhabi theocracy and absolute monarchy. They get the crumbs that fall from the table of economic life. The work done in the country is performed by indentured foreign servants euphemistically called “guest workers.”

There is very little, if any, real difference between “the government” of Saudi Arabia and the activities of small circles of the hyper-rich who thinly disguise their contempt for the West while working against us. IMO this truth will continue to be obscured in US government documents and pronouncements by those who are the clients of the Saudi enemies of the West. pl

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16 Responses to The Saudi Government is an illusion.

  1. I always assumed that the Saudi Family Inc was a kind of consensus organisation. And yet we see MBS doing all kinds of things that don’t look very consensus.
    Amy comments/explanations/theories?

    • Pat Lang says:

      Yes but is not a family business that is in any way friendly to the West. As DEFATT there I quickly learned not to speak Arabic around any kind of official at airports, etc. The assumption was always that if you could, and my Arabic was very good then, they assumed you were a spy.

  2. A. Pols says:

    This is so widely known and has been for a long time that I wonder why our govt. continues to obfuscate this. I’d love to read something in the way of an explanation as to why we continue to tolerate this form the Saudis. It doesn’t seem like they have us by the balls, after all they’re militarily impotent, and it doesn’t seem like anyone else loves them or would defend them if we went in and cleaned house there. So, why?

    • different clue says:

      As bad as the Saudis are, I wouldn’t recommend going in and cleaning house, because if we tried, a seething mass of al qaedas, pure wahhabis, ISIS guys and etc. would come boiling up from out of the basement.

      Maybe if Iraq/Iran could take the oil rich region to deny it to the Wahabbi Sunnis, the Sunni Jihadi community would at least be denied access to that funding stream.

      • Matthew says:

        Unless you are a “humanitarian interventionists” who conflates “security” with flying pride flags at embassies and holding “social development” conferences overseas, why would you assume that a replacement would be worse for America?

        • different clue says:

          Your comment is too confused and confusing for me to be able to understand it.

          What does ” I wouldn’t recommend going in and cleaning house” have to do with supporting humanitarian interventionism, conflating “security” with flying pride flags at embassies and holding “social development” conferences overseas?

    • longarch says:


      It doesn’t seem like they have us by the balls, after all they’re militarily impotent

      One possible explanation is: Numerous researchers have argued that the international overclass of ultra-rich plutocrats is rife with blackmail. Rich Saudis, rich Englishmen, rich Americans — if they are decadent and addicted to unnatural vices, it may be that they have blackmail on each other. Possibly exposure of Saudi corruption would lead to exposure of other international corruption. (These allegations may need to be backed up with reputable scholarship.)

      A second possible explanation is that the Saudis are used as an excuse. For example, on 19 September 2005, the British SAS was accused to using disguises so that two of their commandos could impersonate Arabs. It may be that the Saudis are encouraged to be obnoxious internationally so that perfidious people of other nations can carry out false flags and blame them on Arabs.

      A third possible explanation is class loyalty overriding local loyalties. Perhaps non-Arab multi-millionaires in Martha’s Vineyard feel more kinship with Arab multi-millionaires in Dubai than with the minimum-wage laborers of Massachusetts and New Jersey.

      A fourth possible explanation is bureaucratic inertia. Once a bureaucratic agency has become entrenched with the mission of promoting trade with Saudi Arabia, all of those bureaucrats will use all of their ingenuity to make sure Saudi Arabia remains relevant enough to preserve the bureaucracy.

  3. Polish Janitor says:

    from left to right: * al-Waleed bin Talal (Saudi playboy billionaire, had stocks in Uber, Citibank, and a other ventures, very close to Dems and apparently MbS constantly zapped his testicles with 230w electricity-true story!- while he was a special ‘guest’ at Riayadh’s Ritz Hotel/billionaire prison during the 2017 shake-down. He is said to be impotent now.

    * Turki-bin Faisal who is well-known Saudi career diplomat serving abroad in the U.S. and also the head of its Istikhbarat (i.e. the Saudi intelligence services) at one time if I’m not mistaken. Was instrumental in the ‘funding’ of Saudi money to Mujahedeen in the 80s and close to Bin Laden. Very shady and not much-liked by MbS and the current King Salman. Jamal Khashoggi was his eyes and ears when he was the Saudi amb. to the UK. He managed to ‘plant’ Khashoggi in WaPo before the latter getting sawed into pieces in the Turkish consulate in Oct. 2018 by you know who.

    I am not familiar with the third person.

  4. Deap says:

    A “communications” official from the GW Bush administration was speaking at our local Foreign Affairs Council affiliate meeting way back then, after 9-11 but before the war drums beating for Iraq turned into a hot war.

    I pointedly asked why are we talking about invading Iraq, when so many of the hi-jackers were Saudi nationals? He just as pointedly responded: I’ll talk to you later, when I have finished my remarks.

    He never did, of course. Mainly because he did not need to. There was nothing he could have or would have said at that time. But my table mates got a good chuckle at his evasive response.

  5. akaPatience says:

    Two of the Saudi 911 hijackers were tenants/roommates of an FBI informant, yet his case agent reportedly had an astounding lack of curiosity about them:

    https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-informant-who-lived-hijackers-144439

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hijackers-lived-with-fbi-informant/

    Is it any wonder there are 911 “Truthers”?

  6. Leith says:

    Too much redaction in that declassified report.

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