While terrorism watchlist hits have increased along the southern border, they still represent a very small fraction — fewer than 0.01% — of the hundreds of thousands of migrants who cross into the U.S. illegally each year. While Border Patrol apprehensions of individuals on the FBI terror watchlist increased to 151 along the southern border in fiscal year 2023, the agency recorded over 2 million migrant apprehensions there during that time span.
Most terror watchlist hits still occur at the northern border. Encounters of individuals with FBI terror database matches are much more common along the border separating the U.S. and Canada, despite the much lower levels of unauthorized migration there. For example, Customs and Border Protection recorded more than 430 watchlist hits along the northern border in fiscal year 2023, the vast majority of them at official ports of entry.
Still, there are some concerns. In its homeland threat assessment for 2024, the intelligence branch of DHS said the “record encounters of migrants arriving from a growing number of countries have complicated border and immigration security,” citing the increase in terror database matches.
The assessment also said a recent increase in apprehensions of migrants from the Eastern Hemisphere, while still significantly lower than those from the Western Hemisphere, has “exacerbated border security challenges” because those individuals require more vetting and processing and because it’s more difficult to deport them.
Moreover, DHS’ Office of Inspector General in July published a report that raised questions about Border Patrol’s system to determine whether a migrant could be a national security risk, citing the release of a Colombian migrant in 2022 who was later found to be on the FBI’s terrorist watchlist. DHS pushed back on the report, noting the migrant was re-arrested once it became clear that he was on the database.
Some officials and lawmakers have also voiced concerns about whether any of the estimated hundreds of thousands of migrants who evaded apprehension after crossing the U.S. southern border unlawfully could have ties to terrorism. Border Patrol estimates more than 1 million individuals entered the country surreptitiously over the past two years.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-mexico-border-terrorists/
Comment: It’s now common to hear the southern border problem framed primarily as a national security issue rather than as a collective fear of the great replacement. Given that hundreds of thousands of migrant evade apprehension, the national security fears do have merit. But since terror watch list apprehensions are a lot higher along our northern border, that border may pose an equal national security threat if not more. The security along that border is lax so we don’t really have any idea how many evade apprehension crossing it.
This morning while watching one of the network news shows, I saw how easily migrants penetrated the newer Trump-style border barrier. Looks like a couple of dudes with cordless angle grinders made quick work of the barrier… repeatedly. Anyone with infantry experience can tell you that obstacles like the border wall are damned near useless unless they are properly manned. We certainly don’t have the manpower to man that border properly, much less process the throngs of migrants attempting to claim asylum.
Seems like whatever changes, if any, are made in our immigration and border policies, the solution will also require more manpower both in the border patrol and immigration services. Perhaps if Congress does authorize additional manpower, the Border Patrol could go on a recruiting campaign among the “great replacement theory” crowd. If you’re going to talk the talk, you ought to walk the walk. If that doesn’t work, maybe this is a place for national service. Although I don’t know how effective a bunch of draftees would be on the border. May be more of an accident waiting to happen.
TTG
Yup…Last Time…It Only Took Nine..
Jim
Yup…And Last Time..It Only Took Box Cutters..And No Search Warrants for The Bureau…Profiling You Know..
Jim
I would say it had more to do with the fact that most of the men were Saudi. That and our close relationship with the Saudi absolute monarchy. At least one of the hijackers was receiving money from the Saudi government. In the days after 9/11 the Bush administration allowed a plane full of Saudis, including members of the bin Laden family, fly home when US airspace was otherwise grounded.
This “close” relationship with the Saudis continues to these days and wasnt really impacted at all after 9/11. This, despite the fact, that some of the hijackers attended Saudi back mosques in Virginia, the Saudis were piping in extremist “khutbas” (sermons) at their educational institute on Hilltop Road in Fairfax Virginia “IIASA” (Institute of Islamic and Arabic Sciences) which was later shut down, torn down and now is the spot for the Saudi Arabian Cultural Mission (known as SACAM) and were using extremist text books at the Saudi school for diplomats in the metro DC area now known as the King Abdullah Academy (KAA). Had any other country been doing this, there would have been hell to pay. The Saudis were given the white glove treatment by the US government.
“We certainly don’t have the manpower to man that border properly, much less process the throngs of migrants attempting to claim asylum.”
Of course we do.
But they’re off in Europe, the Middle East, or the Pacific,
rather than tending to the defense of the U.S.
Keith Harbaugh,
If we moved all our combat brigades to the southern border, each brigade would have to police 60 miles or so.
Easy to patrol if killer drones are used.
That 60 miles is a red herring. Large swaths of the desert are so inhospitable that there is no need to patrol it. Ideally, illegals would be funneled into those areas and succumb to the elements; otherwise picked up in the areas covered by troops.
The problem is that being captured doesn’t mean anything negative. The illegal claim asylum and are handed some money and a cell phone and sent all over the country where they hang out on the streets and commit crimes while awaiting their asylum hearing three or four years out.
The cost of crossing – to the illegal – must be increased. Making dying in the desert a real possibility and instant expulsion and denial of asylum claims the result of being captured would discourage a lot of these people from making the trip.
Dying coming across the border is a very real possibility as it stands. People die in the desert all of the time, including infants and children. At least 686 in 2022 alone.
https://www.voanews.com/a/iom-us-mexico-border-the-deadliest-land-crossing-in-the-world-/7297145.html
It wont stop people from coming. The only thing that will is to make conditions at home good enough that they wouldnt want to leave in the first place. If you have known any immigrants you’d know that the vast majority of people would never leave where they came from if they felt that they had a choice.
I believe it is also just part of human nature. Europeans came to North America fleeing oppressive conditions at home. Migration is just normal in the course of human history. The peoples of the UK are not the peoples that were there 5,000 years ago. The vast majority of them have little to no DNA from the original peoples of those islands. The Germans didnt start out in what is Germany today.
Like it or not, the US of the last 250 years will look VERY different than the US of 250 years from now. It is human history. Try to stop it all you want, but it will happen one way or the other. It doesnt matter if 686 a year die trying to cross the border or 6,860 die. They will still come.
Key, in my opinion, is to try and control the process as much as we can and do everything we can to get the ones that do come to integrate with US society. I think history teaches that trying to stop it all together is a fool’s errand.
If someone is invested in keeping the current racial demographics of the US, I would say they are sh*t out of luck. Blame it on the Europeans who came to the Americas in the first place. There was no way to keep the Americas white except the complete genocide of the entire populace of the Americas.
Just my opinion. I dont care if US is a majority non white country, I also think this is inevitable. Trying to integrate new comers to the US is the key point and I think we do a piss poor job of this now.
Unappreciative defeatist at best. You go live in some other country that you think is just as good.
Because I dont care about keeping the US white? I dont, it is the natural march of history, as is migration. Pick up a history book and it becomes clear. It isnt defeatist, it is reality.
I clearly dont have the problem with the changing demographics of this country. Evitable. Short of mass ethnic cleansing in the US, it isnt going to change.
Stefan,
As Col Lang was wont to remind us, the USA is not a mere geography. It is more an ideal based on the enlightenment, Christianity, white culture generally.
Some small ratio of immigrants can be absorbed and assimilated. Too many, and the country just becomes whatever shithole the hordes fled. The life and freedom we enjoy was created by white people and their values. Maybe you’d enjoy moving to Uganda? Bon voyage.
Immigrants from Latin America are not remarkably different culturally from the US. The culture largely derived from Spain and Portugal, a region that shared in the European enlightenment. They are largely Roman Catholic, conservative and family oriented. I believe they can be absorbed almost as easily as the Irish and Poles. The biggest difference is that most arrive at the southern border dirt poor. I do believe much of the resentment against them is derived from the Protestant belief that being poor is a sign of not being chosen by God, a holdover from a belief in predestination. The poor were evil and destined for Hell.
What [m]ay be more of an accident waiting to happen ???
A bunch of ineffective draftees?
Interesting: Cordless angle grinders. Is the Donald telling his people those are fake news?
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But oh my God, Hamas seem to be quite flexible and ready to travel. The same are presently flowing into the US of A via its Southern Border?
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/111205721626200196:
@realDonaldTrump
The same people that raided Israel are pouring into our once beautiful USA, through our TOTALLY OPEN SOUTHERN BORDER, at Record Numbers. Are they planning an attack within our Country? Crooked Joe Biden and his BOSS, Barack Hussein Obama, did this to us!
09. Okt. 2023, 5:17 PM
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What curious obj(ect?) has the master mind inserted into attack?
Nothing more than a dog whistle to racial and religious hated. It worked in the past, it will work today.
Off topic, but only at first glance. (See category: It Can’t Happen Here. And recall the US recent track record on Train derailments). The reference to Simonyan is because she was winner of “the bonehead of the decade” award for her recommendation to detonate a nuke high over the skies of Siberia. Guess what? – yes, the Siberians really didn’t think it was funny. I’m actually posting this because I guess TTG hasn’t got around to reporting on the numerous near passenger aircraft disasters in Russia over the course of the past few days alone. I’m losing count but last I looked it was up to 11, and those are the ones we’re allowed to find out about. Anyone who tells you the sanctions aren’t having an effect is either a special-ed student, a liar, or smoking something. And I am the last person alive who supports sanctions such as these, because killing civilian passengers and or spreading radioactive waste in metropolitan airports is not something I can live with. The sanctions are savage – but you won’t hear that from the usual dopes. You won’t find those dopes on this site here except occasionally from a stray commenter whom I am too polite to mention, but the dopes are legion.
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https://t.me/plavkotell/5443
Simonyan’s proposal almost came true
At about one o’clock in the morning, a plane flying from Khanty-Mansiysk to Moscow sent a distress signal – there was a problem with the landing gear . And on board, in addition to 104 passengers , there were 19 kilos of radioactive substances.
The plane managed to land at Vnukovo without any problems . But this, if you look at the state of the aviation industry , is pure luck. There could have been not just a catastrophe with human casualties, but a nuclear one.
Laws are now being changed left and right. It would be worthwhile to adjust the rules for the transportation of dangerous goods now. Or will we take risks just to support the narrative that “sanctions will only benefit us”?
No” dopes” on this site, F&L. That’s one of its beauties. Always excluding oneself of course, but I’m working on it.
As a passing observation, I comment sometimes on English sites. I always find that calling my fellow commenters the dumbest dolts in Christendom with the memory span of a not particularly gifted hen seldom lightens the mood.
With you on the Sanctions Ghouls and their “sanctions architecture”. Nephew, Stroul, psychos like that. It’s a trade. One seen ads in American papers for personnel. The idea is to make life so impossible for the people of the target countries that they rise up and junk their governments. Holocaust by stealth, one could call it, and the neocons can’t get enough of it.
The Euros tried their hand at it but flubbed it as usual. They sanctioned the wrong people, would you believe. Themselves.
It’s the US immigration policies that are causing this, especially the ones around asylum.
Border security is an excellent opportunity to train military drone operators. Plenty of opportunity to get them to be expert at flying the little drones that drop grenades and 60mm mortar rounds on people and pickup trucks. Bigger drones to take out larger groups of border hoppers. Rest assured, if we create far more strict laws and we drone attack illegal border crossers, they will stop coming here.
Short of that, they will come here in increasingly mass waves and overwhelm social services, healthcare systems, commit increasing amounts of crimes, homelessness, sex-trafficking, disease spread, etc. – all of which are national security concerns (Or at least would be in a sane country).
As for actual terrorists, thousands of Iranians, Palestinians, Somalis, Afghanis, and others of Muslim extraction have been detained at the border (meaning at least that number have gotten through). As the article notes, 430 this year alone were on the terrorist watch list. What do you think they were coming here, sneakily and illegally, to do?
I like how you just dismiss concerns as not wanting to be replaced by third world flunkies with no education or skill set; classic liberal calling “Racism!” to frame a stupid argument in their favor. I also like how a few hundred known terrorists (and God knows how many unknown terrorists) is merely a small percent of immigrants and should be ignored. This is the kind of squishy “thinking” that caused the border crisis in the first place. It’s also the same squishy thinking that led to 9-11, which could have been prevented but for the usual incompetents in the government – you know the government that is supposed to protect its citizens, except doesn’t because it’s been taken over by liberals that hate “white” people and western civilization and think it’s moral to allow non-white people to run rampant breaking whatever laws they feel like, including immigration laws.
Eric Newhill,
That 430 number was for the northern border. So from a national security standpoint, the northern border is the most dangerous. Why no great outcry for increased security along that border?
Asylum seeking immigrants, once processed, documented and released are no longer illegal unlike those who cross the border and escape apprehension. All those immigrants, legal and illegal together, still consume less social services than native born Americans and are less likely to be involved in criminal activity than native-born Americans. Even with the high initial consumption of social services by immigrants, as a class they contribute as much in taxes as they consume.
As for your idea of establishing VOPO-manned death strips along the border, that would only be appropriate if the border crossers were coming armed or wearing suicide vests.
TTG,
Obviously, the Northern border also needs to be secured. If there were 430 at the North border, then there were probably even more at the Southern border. Why the focus on the Southern border? Because it is by far and away the geography where the bulk of the invasion is occurring. I live there now. I see it and it’s getting worse. Even most of the liberals here have had enough.
Again, national security isn’t just terrorists who are planning to bomb, machine gun or otherwise attack targets in the US. National security, as I said, is also all about being able to maintain social services, keep crime to low levels, prevent the spread of diseases, etc. Huge waves of illegals erode all of those security concerns.
“Asylum seeking immigrants, once processed, documented and released are no longer illegal unlike those who cross the border and escape apprehension.”
What? Are you some kind of cheap lawyer now?!?!!? What kind of circular double talk is that? Asylum seekers are in limbo legal status until their asylum case is heard – and that can take years. That law must change. In the meanwhile they are wandering around our streets and – this is important – they owe the smugglers that helped bring them here quite a bit of money. That is why we are seeing organized networks of burglars and home invaders in wealthy neighborhoods where such things never previously existed. It’s a reason why in CA and NY you can steal up to $1,000 worth of goods right in front of the shop owner and nothing will be done to you. It’s also a reason why businesses and people are leaving CA.
The current laws are being gamed by the illegals and they must change. And yes, VOPO-manned death strips are a good idea and would be the most effective means of stopping this existential problem. Why would the illegals need to be wearing suicide vets? Just make the law such that illegal crossings are a capital crime. Also, send Delta + drones into Mexico to take out the cartel leaders. Once examples have been made, tell those left that they get to live as long as they control the flow of illegals.
You don’t like that? Then you do not have the will to defend the country because nothing else will stop this invasion and we – actual citizens – are all going to pay a steep price, up to and including the loss of the constitutional republic in a generation or two (maybe that thought warms some liberals hearts)
Eric Newhill,
By US Customs and Border Protection figures, terrorist watchlist apprehensions on the northern border outpace those on the southern border by 2 to 1 for 2022 and 2023. So from that aspect of the problem, the northern border is the most dangerous. I do agree that by shear mass of asylum seekers and illegal border crossers, the southern border is the problem. And I do see the problem of having the border states absorbing the brunt of this problem. I don’t share the left’s horror at the shipping of those migrants to northern cities which have declared themselves sanctuary cities. This is the only way to raise the issue among a wider group of Americans. In fact, I’d rather see the federal government disperse those migrants throughout the country as an organized program.
I also have no problem with embarking on a concerted, yet quiet and unacknowledged offensive against the cartels and gangs of Mexico and Central America. Those involved in such a campaign will have to operate in cover such as members of rival cartels and northern gangs trying to muscle in on their territories. If captured, it would mean death or life imprisonment without any hope of official USG intervention. If successful, which is far from guaranteed, such a campaign would go a long way in solving the problem.
TTG,
Lest you and others think me to be a crazy monster, my view of the border issue is similar to my view of Gaza. Sometimes it is necessary to cut off a finger to save the hand and arm. A little pain today can avoid a bigger amount of pain tomorrow if we have the will to inflict that necessary immediate pain. No one seems to have the stomach for it. So these problems fester on and on.
These hordes of illegals are not living a good life in the US while waiting for their asylum hearings. Many are literally hungry and sleeping on the streets, even in places in Chicago and NYC, in the winter; that’s women and children too. They are subject to all kinds of victimization. They truly need to be discouraged from making the journey to the US for their own good as much as ours. Seriously. The disincentives are going to have to be strong and unpleasant in the extreme in order to actually work.
I’d be all for sensible, viable plans to help these people develop their countries of origin (if in the Americas). Years ago, I was all for a limited number of these people coming here. As a teenager and while working through undergrad, I laid tile and did concrete footers and block with some of these people and they were good hard workers and decent enough folks (actually, it was said that they were here on work visas – maybe/maybe not).
The current hordes of these people are way in excess of any possible employment opportunities. We do not have the resources to offer all of these people welfare food and shelter into infinity. And they keep coming.
Back to terrorists – what are these hordes going to do when they owe money to cartels, are starving and cold on the streets? Some meaningful percent are going to turn to crime (some already have). If you’re some poor sap US citizen that gets gunned down or stabbed to death while on your front lawn coming back from your mail box, or home invaded while watching TV on the sofa with your family, does it matter whether the killer screams, “Allah u akbar” or jabbers something in Spanish.
Interesting how illegal immigrants are now cold and hungry living on the streets. The old narrative used to be that they took money from “real Americans” and sat around and did nothing waiting for the US citizens to supply them resources that Americans needed. Now they are cold and hungry, taking money from cartels, waiting until they morph into genocidal maniacs.
The anti immigrants narrative sure has changed I guess. It cant be both. They cant be taking food and housing resource from real Americans and, at the same time, be cold and hungry homeless on the streets.
I assume that you will be writing to your Congressional reps to INCREASE THE NUMBER OF IMMIGRATION JUDGES IMMEDIATELY. Or does that conflict with starving the administrative state? You really cannot have it both ways.
Civilizations costs money and we need to rejigger our tax system so we can have border security and new LEGAL asylum seekers who will become American citizens.
Nope. I would not give the damn federal government one thin dime. They would merely waste it and screw things up worse.
I would “deputize” local lawyers into temporary immigration judges. I would work with them to find a way to fast track hearings. Like the alien must show hyper-obvious proof of meeting the criteria of a true “asylum” seeker immediately, or he’s dragged out of the court room and put on the big ship that will take him to a prison camp in Antarctica.
Long term, I’d work to eliminate the whole concept of “asylum”. That would expedite these hearings big time.
The Emerging Democratic Majority as touted by the left for decades is underway. Denunciations as bigots, racists, and now ‘white supremacists’ have followed any complaint to the influx of non-citizens entering in illegal manners. If they are “migrants” (The left’s new term) then they can migrate right the hell back to where they came from.
It is irrelevant to how Congress funds CBP if the head of DHS and DOJ will not act to enforce the laws already on the books. Joe Biden, whose dope using whore mongering son was indicted for IRS violations (as a DOJ CYA), is quite content to spend billions to enable killing along the Ukrainian border. Enforcing our own borders by arrest and deportation is something he’s unwilling to do, in violation of his oath to uphold the law.
Fred,
I thought they are called “transnationals” now.
White Americans are bigots, racists, and now ‘white supremacists’ until Jews are involved. Now it is in vogue to call for the death of Jews. Our most enlightened heads of our most enlightened centers of higher learning have recently said it’s ok.
What’s a few terrorists compared to changing the demography of the US?
Millions of future Democrat voters to replace the “deplorables.”
JEEZ… are we teaching each other anything?
I have spent a fair amount of time on the border, and grew up here. I’ve visited mass graves in Calexico, some thousands and thousands. John and Jane doe, date of death, some have names. The policy of a well guarded border has been in place for some 20-years. The would-be-border-crossers are forced to cross the desert and do in fact DIE!!! by the thousands every year!!! They’ve got drones, fancy cameras, lots of cops, airplanes.
On the other hand there are a lot of truly crazy systems in place!: like special border crossings ONLY for trucks a fast track system into all parts USA (any illegals coming in there?). The border towns service Mexicans, they come over to buy things made in Mexico but sell in the US for much cheaper, so they take them back and sell them. It aint straight forward. Then there are the Vigilante groups crawling around killing people. Wild Stupid West. Much less the guns heading south, the DEA and their lunacy. Money for death and destruction! Never forget LABOR. The multiple of corporate farms, corporate meat packing plants, etc. The millions of the poorest most downtrodden illegals are needed in the USA to work for poverty wages. Hey, they won’t hire US-americans for these jobs, in fact I did apply and was sent away!!!
If we had a more SANE FOREIGN POLICY, one that didn’t back up the nasty corporations, the crossers would not leave their devastated homelands in the first place!!! Much of these countries are war-torn, economically blockaded and have no real sovereignty.
The most recent adventure is the Venezuela/Guyana debacle brought on by ExxonMobil. Backed by US-military. NICE. Much less the confiscation of Venezuelan gold reserves AND sanctions: driving a fantastical amount of Venezuelans to … happy, happy united US-america.
Much less all the other countries we’ve destroyed. Europe is over burdened with Iraqis, Afghans, Libyans, Syrians… you name it.
MAKE WAR, MAKE REFUGEES, MAKE MIGRATION.
I agree 100%. I lived in a border state from 1977-1993. Spent most of my childhood there. I have seen how things have changed. To be honest, I wouldnt live in that area anymore. Not because of immigrants, because some of the “real” Americans there are just too nutty. I come back to visit the majority of my family who still lives there, but would never live there again myself. I am military brat so we often just ended up wherever our parents last posting was.
I believe our foreign policy and domestic economic policy plays a large role in the immigration issue, I also believe migration is just a history human condition. It always has been. I also believe our leaders are happy with the average American blaming immigrants for lowering of wages, taking resources when they really should be looking at our leadership and the business community as to why Americans are doing so poorly compared to their parents and grandparents. It is a nice foil for the establishment to be able to blame immigrants for the ever widening wealth gap in the US, and not the establishment themselves hording more and more of the wealth for themselves.
So, by Km Sky logic, all of the illegal border crossers are now gainfully employed?
Nope, not by a longlongshotshot.
Eric Newhill,
And by your logic, all the border crossers, both the unapprehended illegals and the asylum seekers legally allowed to remain in the US are hanging on street corners unemployed, cold and hungry. That’s also not true by a longshot. Undocumented immigrants or illegals in your parlance contribute over $300 billion in federal income tax and over $500 billion in total taxes including state and local.
And anyone who has known immigrants, legal and illegal, will often tell you they often outwork their native born American compatriots. I have known many immigrants in my day, of course I never asked them for their paperwork, but it is my experience that they are very hard working indeed. The work shy types I have known in my life have all been “born” Americans.
Terrorists pouring into America from the southern border? what a (bad) joke. “successful terrorists” are far smarter than that. in any case, the best defense against that channel & style of terrorism is through the communities they are attached-to. we’re not exactly working that angle well by demonizing them (au contraire!).
you nailed it, Stefan. I’ve lived in the Deep South for over half my life – one grandfather ‘bama born dirt farmer, Dad an Okie, older bro PC
(FL… though Dad went to jungle survival school near the other one – yes, I too a military brat).
I interact w/ many newly (& oldly) arrived Hispanics… service workers, business owners (from food truck & construction-crews to multi-millionaires), engineers, @ church – the whole gamut of humanity (including the sketchy category). let’s not overlook the fact that over half of the continental US was once under Spanish rule – though I’m not suggesting a Right of Return.
the problem is ours… causes & current crisis – as are the available solutions. failure to act sensibly is solely a domestic political matter. our failures are fundamentally a lack of desire to treat the matter pragmatically & timely – the alternatives are so peachy. on the grand scale, America’s policy (esp since the ’50s) has been driven by a lack of desire to compromise among factions or to consider / accept creative approaches (esp, that it’s a dynamic – not amenable to static one-time fixes) among low quality leaders, unable / unwilling to act rationally in the long-term interests of the nation. so what else is new?
TTG, either you are sadly uninformed, or making shit up. Out of respect I will assume sadly uninformed – and you refuse to face the current facts due to the variance with your ideology. Ditto Stefan (who may be some kind of woke anti-US/anti-western civ agent).
But ask yourself this, if these people are a net gain, why are cities playing musical immigrant with them and shipping them to other cities?
Eric Newhill,
You’re the one in denial about how much these immigrants contribute to our economy. As Stefan said, they have excellent work ethic and initiative as a group. They had to just to make the journey to our southern border. I remember telling colonel Lang that by making that journey and getting across the border, those immigrants have passed a selection course that a lot of native borns wouldn’t be able to complete.
The only states playing musical immigrant are the border states and Florida. Florida had to import immigrants from Texas before shipping them north. The northern sanctuary cities are whining about it, but they’re dealing with the immigrants. As I said before, the distribution of new immigrants should be managed on a federal level, just it was for immigrants from SE Asia and Afghanistan. We had quite a few Afghani refugees in our area since Quantico was an initial destination.
TTG,
It is illegal to hire them without a visa. It is also illegal to enter the way they have. “Selection course” is nice camouflage for those aiding illegal entry into the US. These fine people can go back home, wherever that is, and put those good work ethics into action in improving their own countries. Which surprisingly aren’t good enough for them to stay in, nor use that initiative ‘as a group’ to improve. Maybe we should be sending Victoria Nuland and co. to those places, rather than to Eastern Europe.
Fred,
Once being accepted to apply for asylum, the immigrants are given work permits. Unlike those who cross the border and are not processed for asylum, they can be hired and work. Those fine people are not coming here because they want a slightly better neighborhood community. They live in failing states overrun by crooked governments, murderous gangs and cartels, no jobs whatsoever and failed agricultural sector, most often due to climate change. Sure we can send our Victoria Nulands there and have another go at nation building, but who wants that?
TTG,
They ‘passed the selection course’ but couldn’t fix their own countries. All those nations failing and it’s only NATO and her wannabe’s and Israel we are sworn to defend. Our own country, not so much. Give me a break.
TTG,
For Chissakes, even lefty info-ops outlets like USA today are admitting the problem I outline. Get with the times, man. I see this shit myself. Where do you live? Probably somewhere that demands illegals be sent elsewhere. Good for you. Not so good for the rest of us and the illegals themselves.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/09/25/migrant-surge-us-cities/70921430007/
gainfully employed? how did you derive that from what I said?
NO. They’re suffering more than ever! Hassled by the cops, cars are confiscated when stopped without a license, because they can no longer get a license. Much less all the other humiliations. I advise them not to come here, always.
But, the conditions in their homelands are much, much worse.
I’m just saying that the way the world is currently structured, intricate as it is, there are many things that could should be changed, 1) foreign policy, 2) corporate rule of US-gov 3) elite control of gov … I stated some of the bizarre shit that happens on the border. Always looking to blame the helpless? Why no stop for a minute and look UP. Where the greed of the super-wealthy , a group that has no alliance to any government or peoples but themselves. Eh?
oh yeah, of course, it’s the US’ fault. Either we have a lot of leftist agents posting comments here – or leftist agents’ propaganda is thorough and we have a lot dupes posting comments here.
the the top 1% are leftists?
the top 1% that have no real alliances with any government?
wow. propaganda. just want to blame who?
WTF
Kim,
Perun does a pretty good job of delving into the Venezuela/Guyana issue here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWSE9dPEx6Y
His take in a nutshell: Bluff, probably for domestic reasons. It would be an incredibly silly decision to go to war with all the players after that “metric shit ton” of oil. China, France, Exxon?? A coalition that would make Satan tremble! FA and he will FO.
Kim Sky –
Good to hear or see a a heartfelt argument here on this blog about the wannabee emigrants at the border. Many of those poor bastard migrants are now just bones because they were betrayed and abandoned by crooked Coyotes they had paid to bring them safely through the Devil’s Highway in the Sonoran & Chihuahuan deserts. I agree with what you say in those first three to four paragraphs.
You have my full admiration for the majority of you comment. But sorry, I think you are wrong about the situation between Venezuela and Guyana. It’s plain to see that Putin put Maduro up to this mischief. Just the same as he encouraged Hamas pre-October 7th to attack from Gaza into neighboring Israeli territory.
ExxonMobil has plenty to answer for: the Cancer Alley parishes in Louisiana – Exxon Valdez, Greenpoint, Yellowstone, Mayflower oil spills – New Jersey wetlands contamination – human rights violations in Indonesia – price gouging at the gas pump – etc. But your Venezuela/Guyana debacle is not one of them that I’m aware of.
The bones to living illegal entrant ratio is pretty small. There are million of illegals that crossed the border and are now in the US. There are not millions of skeletons in the desert.
You are dreaming and repeating old worn-out left wing talking points that everyone now knows are now false. 40 years ago I would have agreed with most of what you say. The situation has changed immensely since then.
That is what you are advocating Eric? Millions of skeletons in the desert? Men, women and children? Good thing the Native Americans didnt think the same way. We wouldnt be having this discussion, we’d be having it in German, Italian, Dutch, Swedish, from our socialist hell in Western Europe.
The NA’s were fools, just as we are. They should have banded together and killed the invaders on the beaches.
When are you giving your home back to them?
Nah, a few hundred thousand at most. That should serve as disincentive. Maybe these people will then work and fight to make their own countries worth living in and their future generations will enjoy a good life. But I’m weird, I don’t believe in handouts and excuses or martyrdom of my own – and, most weird of all, for these times, responsibility and making the US the best for those who are legal citizens, which it currently isn’t.
But hey, let in a billion or more disadvantaged people if it makes you feels good. At the same time, might as well fund wars all over the world to help out other victims of aggression and oppression. Right? It’s the same principle. We can just print money. When there’s more labor than jobs, we’ll just print more money. Work is so old fashioned.
Oh, now you’re a socialist, which you claim to dislike. It’s almost as if liberals don’t think through the ramifications of their moral posturing and virtue signaling and are unable to face realities that are too harsh for their delicate sensibilities. And so it goes and the hole gets ever deeper.
The US was willing to kill a million or more citizens with covid lockdowns (see deferred care, neglect of elderly, etc.). Drastic times require drastic measures. Right?
Stefan,
The Native Americans did think that way and waged unending wars against one another, both in North and South America.
well well well… at least you’ve come around to accepting their humanity. it’s just that they are weren’t / & aren’t quite as human as us?
Ked,
I wasn’t around when the Spanish put an end to human sacrifice in the Aztec Empire and elsewhere. They had lots of native help doing so. You should consider why that was so. Feel free to open your reparations account to assuage your guilt.
The Venezuelans are coming here because we have devastated their economy with sanctions. Their economy was in trouble anyway and the sanctions destroyed it. Remember when Hugo Chavez sent tens of millions of dollars of heating oil to our Northeast for free to help during the recession. The US has been trying to overthrow the government of Venezuela ever since Chavez was elected.
Poor Venezuela, no one has agency. Except the marxists running the place. You might re-read what the now long dead Chavez’s leadership did to the Venezuelans. Giving millions away didn’t help but the virtue signal still survives online.