1. Mayor Muriel Bowser proudly stated that she "pushed the Army away from our city." The Army she is talking about is the US ARMY and she wants it out of "her" city whether it be the Regular Army (active force) or the National Guard of the various states. It appears to be her position that in the District of Columbia the US armed forces are foreign forces. Bowser is also quite self assured in saying that she does not want to see any "exceptional" federal police presence in DC. Does she have a future referendum on "sovereignty" in mind? A city state?
2. The antifa+ forces manipulating BLM, the happy camper crowds, Muriel Bowser et al on the left have now demonstrated the extent of their command and control capabilities. They brought the crowds in Washington right up to the fence around the WH and then had them leave notes attached to the fence as markers as to the limits of federal government power. The message is clear. "We bring violence when we wish and we turn it off when we please. This is the limit of your territorial control, this fence. We can guide the mob to you from any number of assembly areas, can guide them with free cookies, hot dogs, colored balloons. Donald Trump you are now essentially imprisoned in the WH. You can fly in and out of your prison but the streets …"
3. The logistical capabilities of antifa+ are also impressive. They can move people around the country with ease, position pallet loads of new brick, 55 gallon new trash cans of frozen water bottles and other debris suitable for throwing on gridded patterns around cities in a well thought out distribution pattern. Who pays for this? Who plans this? Who coordinates these plans and gives "execute orders?" AVAAZ? Maybe.
4. Antifa+ can create massive propaganda campaigns that fit their agenda. These campaigns are fully supported by the MSM and by many in the Congressional Democratic Party. The present meme of "Defund the Police" is an example. This appeared miraculously, and simultaneously across the country. I am impressed. Yesterday the frat boy type who is mayor of Minneapolis was booed out of a mass meeting of radicals in that fair city because he refused to endorse abolishing the police force. Gutting the civil police forces has long been a major goal of the far left, but now, they have the ability to create mass hysteria over it when they have an excuse.
5. The senior civilians in DoD and the US military high command appear to no longer accept their constitutional subordination to the President of the United States. They countermanded several of his instructions recently and simply ignored others. IMO they are now de facto allies of Muriel Bowser and antifa+ in thwarting President Trump's ability to manage the street situation in the capital of the US and in confining him to the WH grounds unless he comes and goes by helicopter. The House of Representatives want to have Esper and Milley testify this week as to their actions and attitudes. Good! I want to hear it.
6. George Floyd. A minister in Texas eulogized him yesterday and in doing so compared him to Jesus. Really? Really? Perhaps a new religion will spring up based on his martyred sanctity. Yes. Chauvin is a brute, but George Floyd was no saint.
Antifa+ and their globalist political allies made a lot of progress recently, a lot. The questions remain as to where the money, training in planning and logistics come from. pl
Ah yes, the Passion of St George who died for our sins. The crowds of penitent worshipers metaphorically (so far) flagellating themselves to rid themselves of the stain of white privilege. Not yet a religion, but certainly a cult.
I welcome it. These zealots are whipping themselves into a frenzied ecstasy of political correctness – for all to see. Corporations falling over themselves to out-woke each other are being pilloried for doing so an example (look at the replies). The longer this continues the clearer it will become to the sane where this is all heading.
Fourth and Long put it well a couple of posts ago in declaring his grudging intent to vote Trump because “the country has gone stark raving mad”. If this continues for another 5 months I think many more will have a similar reaction to the cultural revolutionaries.
I’ve always said that one of Trump’s great strengths is his ability to let his opponents overplay their hand. With the liberal-dominated media turning Orwell’s Two Minutes Hate into a 24/7 affair directed at the orange devil incarnate, they are playing to this strength.
Let the cultists topple statues of Jefferson and more besides, these can be replaced. The more that fall, the greater the certainty that the country will decide to put a stop to the madness in November.
I’m entertaining the notion that it is the DNC + Clinton that is behind much of this, with a little help from their foreign friends.
I also think that their radical political Frankenstein’s monster is now forcing the party further to the left than they originally desired to – they just wanted means of gaining power, but the monster started believing the cynical BS because monsters like being fed monster food. The command structure is now blurred between the DNC+ and the monster (e.g. The Minneapolis Mayor getting run out of the room when he tried to say “hey, you know I was just kidding about the no police thing”).
Regarding the organized Prop/psyops campaigns of–whomever–antifa or something even worse, I grant you it is not beach reading material, but I suggest this book is worth a read:
https://www.amazon.com/Organizing-Revolution-Selections-Augustin-Cochin/dp/0972061673
The author, sadly, never got a chance to polish and finish his work. He was killed in WWI after being wounded 4 times. He nails the sophistication of both the Revolution in France, and much more specifically, the organizing of the Terror in 1792. Repeat, very detailed and very dry, but very eyeopening to events happening now, I would suggest.
Col. Lang,
With the FBI busy taking the knee, we can be certain that these subversives will be tracked and unearthed.
What is fascinating is the level of subservience to this “dogma” of political correctness and virtue signaling. Folks from Jamie Dimon to “Blackface” Trudeau taking the knee. Prof. Collum from Cornell who questioned the doublespeak was shamed by the university in an official statement. Then there is the NY Times where opeds are to be vetted to ensure they don’t trigger their editorial staff.
Does it appear to you that Trump does not “run” his administration and actually never has? From Mattis, Kelly, Bolton, McMaster, Rosenstein, Wray – pretty much all he has hired have run their own gig and undermined him at every step. Then on the other hand he disregards counsel from his allies like Devin Nunes. The Russia Collusion hoax and attempted coup is very instructive. Trump, IMO, has shown great weakness by not going after the coup plotters hard and instead punting on it. Now his adversaries and they are formidable as they span pretty much the entirety of the media, the governmental apparatus and the establishment political class in DC and across the states are now going for the kill. Trump won the key states in 2016 with a small margin in each state. Wouldn’t it be easy for these forces to manufacture the 50,000 or so votes in each of these states to tip the election?
An open question is are there counter-forces to the antifa machinery? Usually in banana republics the other side get’s their own counter marchers to dominate the streets.
Antifa? What Antifa? Last I saw the FBI said they had no intelligence that “Antifa” was involved in the George Floyd demonstrations. Are we using “Antifa” like they used “communists” during the civil rights demonstrations in the 60’s?
People are barred from Christian services, but BLM protests and rainbow-flag parades are now permitted. The destruction of civil society from the top down; or as Obama put it:
“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.” Columbia, Missouri, on Oct. 30, 2008. (https://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/how-barack-obama-fundamentally-transformed-the-united-states)
“The questions remain as to where the money, training in planning and logistics come from.”
I would start looking with all the people who funded his rise or rode his coat tails to power. Add in the top leadership of the DNC and the Clinton wing of the Party. Add in a number of corporate executives – especially the tech companies and many, many NGOs. This has all the markings of color revolutions his administration wrought around the globe. Tahrir Square, Maidan Square, and now in our hometowns.
Have we heard a single word from Chauvin?
Any explanation, any first person account, any interview, any justification, any chronology of events from his perspective, and explanation of his police training in this particular restraint procedure, any street assessment of the drugged out condition and actions of Floyd himself.
Yet some amongst us label him as a murderous brute”. Harsh. The only constitutionally sound description of Chauvin right now is “innocent until proven guilty”. May we with hold lurid descriptors before he gets his day in court?
Two autopsy reports did factually describe Floyd as a very heavy drug abuser – each drug capable of causing his own death. And exceptionally dangerous when used in combination. Calling Floyd a self-abusing junkie is fact and fair. Calling Chauvin “murderous” at this time is over the top.
Meanwhile in Bristol UK.
https://twitter.com/guruanaerobic/status/1269643867059601408?s=21
The same tactics used in the various color revolutions are now being used in the US and U.K. Do the intelligence agencies have any involvement?
srw
What name would you like?
The dissolution of the Soviet Union[a] or collapse of the Soviet Union was the process of internal disintegration within the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR, commonly referred to as the Soviet Union), which began in the second half of the 1980s with growing unrest in the various national republics and ended on 26 December 1991, when the Supreme Soviet voted the USSR itself out of existence following the Belovezha Accords of 8 December 1991.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_the_Soviet_Union
All
there is a long history of the use of federal troops against disorder in the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authority_for_Use_of_Military_Force_to_Combat_Terrorist_Activities_Within_the_United_States
If you say that “I’m an American and a Democrat”, you’re a liar.
You can’t be both.
As to the question of Antifa and how they organize and deploy logistical support: Internet and particularly social media. This has gone on for awhile now, mostly on a smaller scale, as happened a few years ago with an “out-of-bounds” motorcycle event in NYC which devolved into mob violence against an unfortunate motorist. I never before thought I’d say something like this and the issue is still “Cringy” to me, but IMO maybe there should be a mechanism for being able to throttle back Facebook and google traffic during crises like this. And, while on the subject, the “defacto” repeal of the Sherman Anti-Trust act has been baneful. I say “defacto” because it simply ceased to be enforced pretty much in the 80s and, because of that, we have monolithic entities like Facebook and Google which rigorously suppress disenting viewpoints and provide a megaphone for “deconstuctionist” views which IMO are subversive.
Romania 1989 ! McCain, Tom Lantos, Soros came first after the coup!
Does anyone (looking at you Col. Lang) really think that the FBI can or WILL uncover anything here?
If they can, which is doubtful, it’s not likely that they will – given their track record.
https://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/status/1269451790375936003?s=21
The media will become even more extreme until they lose more & more people as even those sympathetic notice.
Eric Newhill,
I’m with you on that. Soros is a convenient and appropriate boogie man, but the malevolent effects of the Clintons on American politics and society in general cannot be understated. They are easily the most power-mad people to disgrace our scene in the 100 years, IMHO. They would rather rule over a pile of ashes than not rule at all.
Yesterday I was pilloried for advocating that Trump should not use deadly force to repel the protesters.
I do not wish to ever see Active Duty troops put in a position where they might have to shoot their fellow citizens. Sure, there were most likely domestic enemies within the vast crowd of protesters but the brunt of them, Black and White, were peaceful. If deadly force had been used it would have ended Trump’s presidency. The regime wanted him to use deadly force. The regime does not care how many people have to die for their cause.
The last time I saw something similar, Soviet tanks and troops were moving on protesters and then miraculously refused to fire on them. The regime then fell.
In our case the regime hasn’t quite fallen but it’s getting there. Trump is not the regime. The regime lost the election but it’s still in power. Had the regime pressed forward last night and sacked the WH it would have been easier legally and politically for Trump to accomplish what needs to be done.
Although I didn’t realize it at the time, I suspect Trump told the regime figure head Pelosi that he wasn’t going to shoot. In retrospect he seemed sorta jubilant saying something like, “Hey, we worked with the Democrats and got something done, maybe we can work with them in the future, but, who knows, maybe, maybe not”. The regime then realized that they had been played by Trump. While I don’t know for sure, I doubt Antifa was in DC yesterday.
The icing on the cake would be the authorities figuring it out that the 8 minutes of horror we all had to watch was in reality was one criminal carrying out orders to kill another criminal for criminal reasons. The owner of the night club that employed both of those criminals is chummy with the mayor, saw a pic of them both embracing each other. This mayor is in a bind that is so so tight it’s not funny.
I hope what can happen now is the Federal government agencies can be dispersed out of DC to other areas of the country, areas which are in need of financial help. Civil servants and politicians can then mingle with their fellow citizens, aka Deplorables. The President can do what he does best, design and build big projects, well he really won’t have the time for that but you get what I mean. They will be big, beautiful buildings for all of the people to enjoy the sight of.
It would appear that Trump’s biggest problem is that he does not have a Rolodex of the command structure of vast executive apparatus at his disposal. This make is possible for a key people to thwart him with little more than a bit bureaucratic foot dragging. Someone needs to slip him a little black book he can use to end run his opposition.
Colonel,
In addition to Soros having the finances to fund such ANTIFA logistical excursions, Obama must not be discounted. Remember that Obama has many ‘friends’ (domestic and globalists) that have ‘deep pockets’, and Obama could be the little general behind the curtain as he has ‘friends’ (both domestic and globalists) who have both experience like his ‘friends’ in the leftist-revolutionary community aka Weather Underground Organization (i.e. Bill Ayres). While Obama was president, he ‘seeded’ thousands of far-left and far-left marxists/leninists types into various federal infrastructures during his two terms in office. Oabma still has deep plants within varous federal alaphabet soups (the john brennan types).
Just a thought.
This clip is after they told Frey to “get the fuck out of here”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdT2ZR0uuu8
The Color Revolution started in the US and Britain, during the Obama administration. Look back, you see the same actions taken to destabilize foreign governments beginning to happening in the US and Britain. In the US the Soros worked to get his Attorney Generals elected, now the big push to to remove police. When we get rule by committee instead of rule of law, there will be no push back at the state level. How much organization and planning does that take?
Remember when Obama cleaned out the Generals, retiring those not sufficiently SJW for the new military. Will you be surprised if several key Generals commit treason. For our own good of course, to protect us from Patriots and the Constitution.
Think about the size of the organization and the amount of planning needed to do the things the Colonel describes on a national level.
This party is just getting started, the game is on, the other side has been planning and practicing. Meanwhile the other side can’t even wake up to the fact they are being played.
When they openly start defacing and destroying the statues of Washington and Jefferson, you will hear a version of the same justification used for destroying the confederate statues. Its a game of
Inches. Until it’s not.
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Colonel,
Do we know for a fact the president gave a formal, written order to the military to deploy in DC and this was countermanded by the civilian leaders at the Pentagon?
Surely a tweetstorm or talk at a press briefing would not constitute a formal order.
I am very skeptical there is any meaningful organization or funding of the anarchists. I cannot imagine the deepstate has affinity to Antifa any more than it did to the SDS, Black Panthers or Weathermen 50 years ago. And recall how quickly the Occupy Wall Street was shut down. Much smaller scale, but it was over in a few days.
All the supposed Spanish chick says that since Backs now can have guns “we” (whites?) cannot “hunt them” anymore. Inline with her usual ignorance she does not know that Blacks always had guns. In slave days many planters including JF Davis organized posse’s from among their slaves to exclude trespassers and poachers as well as to hunt for themselves and for the big house (owner). They have had guns ever since both legally and illegally.
Upstater
Not if he is sufficiently intimidated.
Re
“Remember when Obama cleaned out the Generals, retiring those not sufficiently SJW for the new military” I don’t actually remember that. Remind me..
Grocery store prices are skyrocketing, gasoline is getting us back over $2.00, the car & house insurance policies are sure to be up big time as well as the real estate taxes. Somebody has to pay these new costs created by those Peaceful Protestors. Guess when Tony Fauci says we have to stay home for two months or so we will take him off the stage as 20+ million out of work staying at home really gets them riled up just waiting for a martyr like George Floyd to light the fuse.
Now Antifa+ have been training for the past few years out in Portland, Oregon and Seattle getting ready for the big time we have seen recently.
Now all these Joint Terrorism Task Forces, FBI and other federal agencies seem to have been caught flat footed without a clue. Just look at the two lawyers, schooled on our dime, driving through Brooklyn stopping and dropping Molotov cocktails into empty police cars, who would of known Community Board members etc.
So we have been relying on the good old National Guard as the backstop thinking if they fail well the 82nd airborne will come to the rescue. Oops those perfumed prices are a little gun shy, sure hope the troops are not, they came to the rescue in 1968 and numerous other time. They will have a hard time getting any more money out my government.
Folks, it’s going to be a long hot summer so sit back, stock up on groceries, supplies and a few sheets of plywood may come in handy and when your out stop by the gun shop and stock up as who knows what’s coming down the road.
As for the upcoming election it looks like McGovern will be bested.
Upstater wrote: “I am very skeptical there is any meaningful organization or funding of the anarchists.
I think that is an incorrect assumption.
1. Two young women mentioned in this comment https://tinyurl.com/ybx32x5b
organized protests in over a dozen cities in three counties and DC. Both are connected to AIPAC and ADL, two of the wealthiest and most powerful organizations in USA, with global reach.
That’s just two people I know about; it’s not unreasonable to assume there are “Samantha Subins” and “Sarah Fishkinds” in multiple other states in USA.
2. This video is from a BLM protest at Bethesda public library in center of Bethesda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgnhuyW9C6A&feature=emb_logo
In the aftermath of Charlottesville, I took part in a “Sensitivity” workshop at a nearby Episcopal church and conducted by the DC Episcopal diocese — the one that Bp. Mariann Budde heads. Several nationally known media figures as well as a number of former foreign service workers are members of the church. The workshop was created in collaboration with ADL. Participants at the workshop behaved exactly as you see the crowd behaving in the video: (in my opinion) abasing themselves and acquiescing to demand to “apologize for their privilege” as I experienced first hand.
3. That same Episcopal church and over two dozen other churches in the DC-MD-VA area, of many denominations, organized by ADL, signed onto a letter opposing the issuance of a permit to the organizers of the failed Charlottesville Unite the Right (UtR) rally, to speak in Washington, DC. The permit was issued nevertheless, but once again, ADL organized buses, caravans and people far outnumbering the UtR attendees, and also managed to block UtR speakers from being able to travel to the event they had scheduled. UtR’s attempt to speak at their permitted event was wrecked; the opposition organized by ADL was triumphant and participating churches were jubilant. These are powerful forces, and wealthy. They are the same people that were happily led to denounce White Privilege at the Bethesda library yesterday.
ADL rules. Episcopal, Catholic, Methodist, Baptist, even Buddhist congregations comply with moral certitude. And money.
The BLM campaign is a very sophisticated media and organizing affair. Soros & whatever Antifa is may be involved, but if so, the whole is far more than Soros and Antifa. Except for the sound stage, the BLM in DC had all the media & organizational elements and more, of the Women’s March on the day after Trump’s inauguration. As my comment linked above states, one of the Maryland organizers was from the Parkland demonstrations. Do you remember how slick and well-funded that campaign was? School children had millions of dollars at their disposal. They built on that ‘rolodex’ and experience.
When AIPAC comes to DC for its annual bash, various groups, i.e. representing Palestinians, attempt to stage a counter-protest against AIPAC. It’s usually pathetic, but it’s also patrolled by “JDL” — Jewish Defense League — young toughs trained to infiltrate the crowd, intimidate, cause mischief, occasionally cause physical harm. They wear black clothing and balaclavas, have an organizational structure of their own. It is thought that they train at Kiryas Joel, an all-Jewish town in Orange County, New York, not too far from the adjacent estates of the Morgenthaus and FDR’s Hyde Park.
It’s not unlikely that JDL played a role in some of the protests in New York, DC and elsewhere.
All of this is, of course, in addition to the acknowledged fact that ADL trains US police AS WELL AS FBI and has done so for decades.
Partnering with Law Enforcement
https://www.adl.org/who-we-are/our-organization/signature-programs/partnering-with-law-enforcement
That ADL and other major Jewish groups enjoy close relationship with FBI and most police forces was forthrightly stated in a Feb. 2019 panel discussion hosted by Jewish Council for Public Affairs at which Amy Spitalnick, the director of then-newly organized Integrity First for America; former FBI agent Cynthia Dietle, now advocating for the LGBTQ community; and Doron Ezickson, Director of the Washington Office of ADL, discussed the efforts of their organizations to enact policies among all police forces as well as already-on-board FBI to classify certain acts, for example, such as marking a swastika on a synagogue, as Hate Crimes, in order to enable far harsher penalties, even to categorize as an act of terror, what might otherwise be simple vandalism.
Spitalnick’s 501c3 organization now has a $10million war chest for its current project: civil prosecution of participants in the Charlottesville Unite the Right rally, with the state goal of “crushing,” “bankrupting,” and “silencing” them. https://www.c-span.org/video/?457758-1/countering-anti-semitism-racism-xenophobia
Don’t look to the FBI for help; they are compromised.
For an indication of ADL & associated Jewish groups’ ability to cause timbers to shiver (see Walrus’s article), this morning Sean Smoot, formerly with Obama’s Task Force 21st Century Policing, appeared on C Span to discuss police – community relations. A member of the audience asked whether it was true that “US police are trained in Israel or by Israelis.” Smoot said he had no knowledge of any such relationship. https://www.c-span.org/video/?472702-3/washington-journal-sean-smoot-discusses-police-community-relations&event=472702&playEvent&auto
Seventy-six years to the day white men stormed the beaches of Normandy to free the world of fascism blacks and whites together stormed the NY Macy’s for free Nikes. Call this Operation Underworld.
Just saw Admiral Mike Mullen on TV saying that US forces are to defend the nation against it’s enemies, never against it’s own citizens.
Mullen apparently thinks that antifa (and associates) are just peachy people, certainly not “enemies.”
He seems to be a reasonably well spoken and very average kind of man.
How did HE get 4 stars?
The corruption hypothesized by Walrus?
upstater
A “formal, written order” is not required. We do not ask our commanders for formal written orders.
Bill Wade,
I understand your feelings about this, but there are about six steps used by riot troops, from arms at sling with magazines in pouches and bayonets in scabbards on belt, to arms at port with magazines inserted and bayonets without scabbards, which are done in such an ominous, clashingly loud, and deliberate manner, that a rioter has every opportunity to get it into his brain that this trip is going jive-ass bad for real. I suspect you probably know this, but it still needs to be said.
As to the statements of the DC mayor, I thought that Washington, D.C. was still legally designated as the Military District of Washington(MDW).
Big trouble in DC has happened before in my lifetime. I know that in early 1963 (the year in which JFK would be killed on November 22) drills for major disturbances in the District were undertaken at the small airbase once known as ‘Bolling’ on the edge of the Potomac at the point where the Anacostia river flows into it, a base that is now known as Joint Base Anacostia-Bolling. Since the DIA was headquartered there, I assume Col. Lang knows it well.
During the summer of 1963, a few companies of marines from Quantico and paratroopers from Ft. Benning, having gone through lectures on the law of riot control, and riot control training, including going into a tear-gas chamber, were then, to run through how the ops plan would look, briefly deployed to Bolling. Here they spent a day or two practicing various shoulder to shoulder formations used to control rioters. They were returned in 1964 for further training. In short, the powers-that-be anticipated trouble. The plan was known as MDW Operation Plan 563-1 (CABIN GUARD). I assume the title of the plan stemmed from the Army’s historical respect for traditions that reach back all the way to Jacksonian democracy. 😉
Part of this little known story is reported on in “The Role of Federal Military Forces in Domestic Disorders, 1945-1992” by Paul J. Scheips, which gives an intriguing and unusual look, from the government’s point of view, at operations in places like Little Rock, Detroit, and Washington, D.C., in those turbulent years of school desegregation and the riots following the murder of Martin Luther King in 1967.
As Scheips tells us, CABIN GUARD plans were updated to CABINET MAKER and ultimately to DRAGON WING, which was the ops plan put into effect for the Mobe. The policy discussions and plans were aimed at a “maximum application of manpower and minimum application of force.”
“The planners wanted an early alert and assembly of National Guard and active duty forces in the District of Columbia. Although the measure might provoke trouble [because being in part hidden, though the convoys from Quantico previously in ’63/64 had gone in during broad daylight] “it would save four to six hours if a troop call-up became necessary.” And the call-up was deemed necessary to happen simultaneously, and not sequentally, to the call-up of the National Guard. The first echelon of Regular Army and Marine forces, designated TASK FORCE INSIDE, totalled about 5,000. The second, designated TASK FORCE 101, included up to 15,000 troops. The designation 101 was given because it was made up of much of the 101st Airborne Division. The commanding officer of TASK FORCE WASHINGTON was to be Lt. General Jonathan O. Seaman, who was at that time the head of the First Army, Ft. Meade, Maryland.
As you can imagine, I am only touching ever so lightly on this big story and a lot of it never made it into the press at that time. By October 19, 1967, after years of contingency planning, it all paid off. This was when the ‘Mobe’, also dubbed ‘The March on the Pentagon’, rolled into town. And turned into “a big picnic with political overtones” at which nobody got hurt, though some of the young wimmnz behaved in such Dionysian ways, painting themselves with bull’s blood etc., that it is a shame that Alma Tadema could not have been there to paint them, as well…
The Army’s after action report is somewhere on the internet, but I have misplaced it, or the internet has misplaced me. The senator from Maryland, Charles McCurdy Mathias, a super guy I always admired, and a former naval officer, was driven through the night in a jeep with some of the leaders, on an inspection tour of the troops, from position to position, before the dangerous morrow. After returning to a command post, an officer asked him what he thought about what he had seen. ‘How do we look to you, sir?’ Machias’s response was duly noted in the after action report. He said, simply: “Superb.”
I would find it incredible if there were not already plans like CABIN GUARD now in the works, which will now be fine-tuned over the summer. Troops will be surely be back at Bolling.
Who knows, maybe they were just there?
blue peacock
You asked, “…are there any counter forces to the antifa machinary”
Out in the Portland Seattle area The Proud Boys like to rumble with the antifa crowd (not that street brawls are a good answer to anything) & it appears most citizens of the area view the Proud Boys as dumb peckerwoods & silently support antifa
Bill Wade, let us hope no one ever orders the US Military (how we’re defining that term is meaningful here”) into the ‘streets’, but let us recall it HAS been done before. Shays Rebellion, again how we define federal forces is relevant. The Draft riots of 1863 in New York. Veteran’s Bonus March in 1931 where Mac and Ike saw ‘action’. Little Rock Ark in 1957, 82nd Airborne……so lets not act this has never been done before. Let us fervently hope it never has to happen again. But lets not pretend Trump is the first President to contemplate such use. Because that is simply, another falsification of history and law with regard to Trump. Who I don’t support by the way for reasons the Col has outlined here with regard to other matters.But I don’t want to hear of the White House being looted and burned down. Again.
Poor Blacks. From the videos I’ve seen some already know they’re being used. And those don’t like it. But the appeal of the slogans and the excitement of mass protest is enough to keep most of them on board.
For me the video of a London police officer unable to control her horse struck home. She was swept off the horse by a tree branch or some other obstacle and the horse bolted off into the far distance. Viciously quick and she must have been hurt, landing on the paved surface. I’ve been thrown once or twice myself and for that brief half-second it’s just a tumbling disorientated blur. But never like that. Apparently the protesters had been throwing bricks at the horse, though that was not shown. That was what had caused it to bolt.
Odd that that one small incident, amid all the mayhem here and in the States, should be what sticks in the mind. When it’s all over there’ll be the usual dreary procession through the Magistrates Courts. I hope the man who threw a brick at a horse is among them.
TV
I wonder what Mike Mullen thinks the “and domestic” part of his oath means, or indeed whether rioters storming the WH with the intent of toppling the elected government might not require him to “defend the Constitution”. IMO Trump needs to ask these questions of all his top military in positions of power – both serving and retired – and get rid of the ones who give the wrong answers.
Barbara Ann
I went to all the service schools from the Lt. course to the Army War College. The upper level ones are all by invitation only. The higher the level the more I became convinced that they should not be teaching all these hyper-ambitious people so much about international and national politics. The justification was that we would have to participate in national policy discussions, but the downside is that these senior military students start to think like politicians. You see the result.
jonst
Yes. 14 times since the end of the Indian Wars.
Tidewater
MDW is the Army command for units and activities in the Washington area. It is not the government of DC.
Barbara Ann,
Absolutely. No sane being likes the idea of bringing in the military to suppress rioters, but sometimes it has to be done, and failure to do it promptly and effectively can lead to catastrophe.
And, insurrections in capital cities have had a way of turning out badly, for most of those concerned.
In deciding when and how to use armed force, a President really does need to be rely upon the best possible military advice. And he has to able to be absolutely confident that those he turns to recognise that, under the Constitution of the United States, the ultimate decisionmaker is him.
Thanks Tidewater, Jonst
I appreciate it, there’s a lot I don’t know but at least now I know that Col Lang is right and there needs to be a meeting of minds regarding this important matter.
EO,
Many police horses have been deliberately injured here in the US. At least one pleasure riding horse was killed when rioters threw fire bombs into it trailer as the owner attempted to drive away after being caught up in the rioters due to a blocked road. There is a video of the owner desperately driving away while the trailer burns and the horse screams. Made my blood boil.I would have shot the rioters if I’s been there.
My wife and I used to breed and break thoroughbreds for the race track. I was galloping one of the youngsters one day and my girth broke while we were taking a turn. Yep, confusion, impact, shock and then pain. All in a blur.
David Habakkuk
In my father’s time, it was the custom that soldiers and officers on active duty did not vote because they were politically neutral servants of the constitution.
Colonel Lang,
During 1963, there was a discreet operation planned for the military to identify and arrest certain members of the Washington D.C. government and counterculture. It was reviewed at some level, and countermanded.
If the government of the District of Columbia does not cooperate fully with the equivalent of TASK FORCE WASHINGTON this summer, I am certain that there will be martial law in the District, and the D.C. government will be arrested and put into a detention camp. That is what I meant about the city still being a military district.
I expect that thousands of federal troops and members of the National Guard will be going through riot control training this summer.
I am not claiming that I have any inside information. It’s just common sense and a limited knowledge of recent history.
As to Richmond, this could be the moment when the city finally defined itself, once and for all, as a black ghetto. People forget, Richmond is landlocked. It will never get any larger.
English outsider
The policewoman’s horse spooked because the BLM protesters threw stuff at it. It ran when hit by a bicycle. Early videos show this but the later edited ones do not. The teevee is not reality.
The protests and riots are a manufactured outcome, a conditioned response, from years of media manipulation, identity politics and critical theory taught in our schools. The truth is police kill more unarmed whites than blacks. But Black Lies Matter in the long run.
This year Oregon passed a law that schools have to spend a week teaching about the holocaust. I asked an eighth grade history teacher how he approached the subject and he said he spent the week on the American-Indian genocide. A slow build. Like you, Col., I think of it as the Indian Wars. Also, I think of the holocaust as a part of WWII, the latter subject teachers gloss over.
It’s safer to wear an antifa sweatshirt in Portland than a MAGA hat.
Artemesia
I was not familiar with Kiryas Joel, so I took a look at its wiki – a fascinating read: A community of Yiddish-speaking Hasidim with by far the lowest median age of any US municipality (and a phenomenal pop. growth rate) in which 46% speak English “not well” or “not at all”. This part caught my attention for some reason:
It is now a town (“Palm Tree”) thanks to Gov. Cuomo.
What could possibly go wrong.
Eric Newhill – Ouch! My own tumbles were due to inexperience and you’ll be pleased to hear that in no case was the horse injured. Or indeed much upset.
I see Colonel Lang commenting in the subsequent article on the hysteria of these times. A lot of it about but then, progs do tend to obsess rather a lot. All that manpower going to waste, I thought when I saw the videos. Few of them bothering to do any practical thinking on how to put the country right though.
At least the Chartists had some clear goals in mind. Not that they were angels either. I came across this account of riots nearly two hundred years ago. Seems there were some teetotal Primitive Methodist Chartists involved, which I reckon was overdoing it with the virtue signalling –
https://www.myprimitivemethodists.org.uk/content/place-2/staffordshire-2/n-z-staffordshire-2/the_potteries_riot
Charging rioters with sabres seems in fact to have been fairly common, though shooting them was generally frowned upon. Not in this instance though.
More recently, during the Thatcher period, bands of police officers used to cruise the neighbourhood looking for striking miners to beat up. There was a well attended protest march in London not that long back, “The Countryside March” about the abolition of fox hunting. There the police officers leaned over the barriers to hit heads with batons as the protesters marched past.
So there seems to be a fair bit of give and take during these affairs. Just wish they’d leave the horses alone. And I’m afraid that police officer turned out to be badly injured. Difficult to see why that should happen to her because Chauvin killed George Floyd.
optimax
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureau_of_Indian_Affairs BTW, for the comprehension of non-Americans Indians can live anywhere they want. If they live on a reservation that is because they wish to do so.
I would be curious to know if Colonel Lang sees the move to “defund the police” as a first step in establishing a counter-state.
Also would like feedback on the idea that recent events exhibit characteristics of an insurgency as advocated by Mao.
optimax
Why should anyone outside of Europe learn about Shoah in K-12?
Are young people also to learn about the Harrowing, to take an example from the English History?
Or about the enslavement and eventual extinction of Prutherians (sic) at the hands of Tutonic Knights?
Elie Wiesel coined the word Holocaust, from the same root as Holy.
Let the young people be, they have onlu one life to live and they are not going to benefit from the Lessons of History, few do.
Col
Yes, I’ve been interested and read about the Indian Wars mostly in the West. Have a great respect for the Comanches horsemanship and the generalship of Red Cloud. Still, I feel no guilt and am glad my people won, though in this day the young are taught to feel guilty about the war and everything about civilization. The programming of white guilt into the students has been perfected in Portland. Not long ago a High School near here found this note, “It’s OK to be white.” The well trained students walked out of class to demonstrate against this “white supremacist” threat–encouraged by their teachers. I knew some women who grew up on the Rez but prefered the city.
Zulu is one of my favorite movies. I should buy the dvd before it’s banned and won’t be able to rent it anymore.
EmJay72159508
IMO the plan, if it is a plan, is to collapse the present governmental structures and re-build differently on the rubble. Maoist struggle is a lot better organized than this. Usually there are peasant part-time guerrillas followed by formation of full time fighting units and alternative government.
optimax
Zulu is (or was) a staple of British Army training – for obvious reasons. A major in the British Gurkha regiment once told me a funny story: Fresh in from Nepal the Gurkha recruits attended a screening of Zulu at their base in London – I forget exactly where. After the screening the major was escorting his recruits to another location outside the base when they began to behave in a very agitated manner. Apparently they were walking through a mixed race neighborhood and the Nepalis, having seen their first black face, in the flesh as it were, were readying themselves for attack. He told me that the training program was modified (contextualized, I guess) in the aftermath, so as to avoid potential misunderstandings in the future.
‘ “Remember when Obama cleaned out the Generals, retiring those not sufficiently SJW for the new military” I don’t actually remember that. Remind me.. ‘
==List Of Military Elite Purged
And Fired Under Obama==
Compiled By General Paul Vallely
3-17-14
>rense.com/general96/listof.html
Here is the list of our military elite who have been purged or fired under Obama:
Commanding Generals fired:
· General John R. Allen-U.S. Marines Commander International Security Assistance Force [ISAF] (Nov 2012)
· Major General Ralph Baker (2 Star)-U.S. Army Commander of the Combined Joint Task Force Horn in Africa (April 2013)
· Major General Michael Carey (2 Star)-U.S. Air Force Commander of the 20th US Air Force in charge of 9,600 people and 450 Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (Oct 2013)
· Colonel James Christmas-U.S. Marines Commander 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit & Commander Special-Purpose Marine Air-Ground Task Force Crisis Response Unit (July 2013)
· Major General Peter Fuller-U.S. Army Commander in Afghanistan (May 2011)
· Major General Charles M.M. Gurganus-U.S. Marine Corps Regional Commander of SW and I Marine Expeditionary Force in Afghanistan (Oct 2013)
· General Carter F. Ham-U.S. Army African Command (Oct 2013)
· Lieutenant General David H. Huntoon (3 Star), Jr.-U.S. Army 58th Superintendent of the US Military Academy at West Point, NY (2013)
· Command Sergeant Major Don B Jordan-U.S. Army 143rd Expeditionary Sustainment Command (suspended Oct 2013)
· General James Mattis-U.S. Marines Chief of CentCom (May 2013)
· Colonel Daren Margolin-U.S. Marine in charge of Quantico’s Security Battalion (Oct 2013)
· General Stanley McChrystal-U.S. Army Commander Afghanistan (June 2010)
· General David D. McKiernan-U.S. Army Commander Afghanistan (2009)
· General David Petraeus-Director of CIA from September 2011 to November 2012 & U.S. Army Commander International Security Assistance Force [ISAF] and Commander U.S. Forces Afghanistan [USFOR-A] (Nov 2012)
· Brigadier General Bryan Roberts-U.S. Army Commander 2nd Brigade (May 2013)
· Major General Gregg A. Sturdevant-U.S. Marine Corps Director of Strategic Planning and Policy for the U.S. Pacific Command & Commander of Aviation Wing at Camp Bastion, Afghanistan (Sept 2013)
· Colonel Eric Tilley-U.S. Army Commander of Garrison Japan (Nov 2013)
· Brigadier General Bryan Wampler-U.S. Army Commanding General of 143rd Expeditionary Sustainment Command of the 1st Theater Sustainment Command [TSC] (suspended Oct 2013)
Commanding Admirals fired:
· Rear Admiral Charles Gaouette-U.S. Navy Commander John C. Stennis Carrier Strike Group Three (Oct 2012)
· Vice Admiral Tim Giardina(3 Star, demoted to 2 Star)-U.S. Navy Deputy Commander of the US Strategic Command, Commander of the Submarine Group Trident, Submarine Group 9 and Submarine Group 10 (Oct 2013)
Someone upthread claimed the now failed attempted coup in Washington was run by the same people who “ran the Maidan” or words to that effect.
Maybe you want to re-think that.
If the Maidan was a CIA production, why were they unable to duplicate it in DC?
If this is how the “people who ran the Maidan” do a putsch, it’s time for all you believers in Nuland’s magic cookies to re-examine the Maidan.
If the people who were allegedly running the show in DC did in fact try to make a coup in Ukraine, their failure in Washington shoots down the Russian disinfo over what went down in Kyiv. If the CIA et al are so competent at coup-making that they could keep hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians out in bitter cold for 4 months, how come they couldn’t keep a much smaller crowd on the street more than a few days, in nice weather?
In Ukraine in 2014 and in Washington last weekend, behind-the-scenes machinations could not determine the ultimate outcome.
Washington’s fizzle – no attack on the White House – gives the lie to the idea that the Maidan could have been a paid for coup because, though there was surely funding from underhanded sources, perhaps including the deep state, involved in the terror-riots of late May to early June, it couldn’t keep people going for four months like the Ukrainians did in 2014. Blacks will riot until the stores are empty, they get tired and hungry, and need to get back to their drugs they left at the crib. Nice virtuous Whites will march until they get bored, tired and hungry, and need to get back to their wifi.
This proves what I have always argued, that it was the Ukrainians’ spirit of revolution – and no, the people on the Maidan were not “marginal”, as Ischenko claims – that ousted Yanukovych, not money.
I can’t find the perfect post to add this to, so I’ll post it here.
“Let the Professors Run the University”
https://www.insidehighered.com/views/2019/07/02/faculty-members-need-reassert-themselves-people-who-direct-discourse-campuses
The author suggests professors have overly acquiesced to the demands of radical students.
Of course the dirty truth is that many of the profs are also radical.
In any case, this is now playing out at, e.g., Rice University:
https://www.ricethresher.org/article/2020/06/replace-willys-statue-with-johnson
https://www.houstonpress.com/news/rice-asked-to-remove-statue-of-slave-owner-namesake-11479143
Regarding the piece from Yoseph Maguire, his request/demand represents an uncanny echo of the demands I heard so frequently from his co-ethnics at Brandeis U. circa 1970:
“Smash the WASP establishment!”