“Pentagon to respond “appropriately” after Oklahoma National Guard says it won’t follow COVID-19 vaccine mandate” Axios

Thunderbird (Oklahoma NG) troops

Driving the news: “We are aware of the memo issued by the Oklahoma Adjutant General regarding COVID vaccination for Guardsmen and the governor’s letter requesting exemption. We will respond to the governor appropriately,” Pentagon spokesman John Kirby told Axios in a statement.

“That said, Secretary Austin believes that a vaccinated force is a more ready force. That is why he has ordered mandatory vaccines for the total force, and that includes our National Guard, who contribute significantly to national missions at home and abroad,” Kirby added.

State of play: The Pentagon’s statement comes after Brig. Gen. Thomas Mancino, who now oversees the Oklahoma National Guard, “rescinded” the requirement.

  • Mancino cited a written request from the governor to Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin asking DOD to “immediately consider suspending the COVID-19 vaccine requirement for national guardsmen in Oklahoma.”
  • Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt (R) is “awaiting an decision” from the Defense secretary, Mancino wrote in the memo dated Thursday.”

Comment: Well, well, this will be an interesting test. The National Guard of each state is the portion of the state’s militia that is federally supported with money, training and equipment. Unless the president calls the National Guard into federal service, the governor controls it. If Biden/Austin seize control of the Oklahoma Guard and manage to make that “stick,” then seizure of control of the Texas Guard cannot be far behind. pl


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30 Responses to “Pentagon to respond “appropriately” after Oklahoma National Guard says it won’t follow COVID-19 vaccine mandate” Axios

  1. Fred says:

    “Mancino earlier this week was selected by Stitt to replace Gen. Michael Thompson, who had supported COVID-19 vaccinations and said that members who do not receive the vaccine would be advised on alternative options.”

    Looks like the Governor got rid of general who was making political decisions.

    What rationale would be possible for calling the OKNG into federal service? Why are the NG members required to be vaxxed but neither the Afghans flown in after our great victory in Kabul nor the illegals crossing the border Biden won’t defend don’t need vaccines, or documentation, or jobs?

    • Aletheia in Athens says:

      Add the member of Congress in the group who do not need the shot, plus
      FDA and CDC officials nad pentagon highest echelons…

      Sleepy Joe performance on taking the vaccine could well be so fake as that set he uses representing the White House which is not so, plus his clearly forgotten promise on that the vaccine would not be mandatory….

  2. Jim says:

    There surely are US Constitution Amendment #2 implication all over this, among other things. Biden and Austin, creating a constitutional crisis of greatest magnitude if they push it.

    A well regulated militia being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

    Which militia would Biden and Austin actually deploy, should they choose to “enforce” “appropriately” whatever it is they imagine they want to accomplish? — since to ask the question is to answer it.

    The standing US Army, Marines, Air Force, Navy? The Capitol Police, the FBI, other states’ National Guards, other?

    This has potential [and may be part of scheme] to create insurrection, domestic insurrection, on purpose?

    And this points straight to why the Biden/Austin playing with fire here is arguably grounds for them being charged with Treason, depending on what happens next. On the face of it.

    Whatever else our armed forces are, they are to protect our country’s national security.

    This looks to me like a plot to create internal insurrection, a crisis, that can lead straight to a catastrophic dismemberment of our national defense — placing our national security in grave if not fatal harm.

    On the other hand. . . . All of which lead to the question: what is purpose of enforcing covid-shot compliance in armed forces, —- if not to use these very same forces to militarily force all of us to get the shot, or: be sent at point of a gun, against our will, without any legal due process — to, for example prison camps, penal colonies, etc?

    If it is accurate to say this is the purpose [or among them]: can it any longer be denied this covid operation now, and all along, has been a military operation, at least in the minds of the deranged maniacs who on paper are the country’s leaders?

    [[ a vaccinated force is a more ready force]] —- More ready for what? Enforcing total abolition of Habeas Corpus, placing us in prisons, re-education camps and destroying our lives until we’re dead and buried? [AG Merrick Garland, the nation’s enforcer of civil rights: where are you?]

    Who if anyone in Congress, at this dark hour, will actually state this — the heart of the matter? —Or will they as per usual, some of them oppose this while dancing like pixies all around but never dare touch the heart of the matter? And if they don’t and can’t, what does that say about their Limited Hangout role in all this?

    Darker days are ahead.

    The CDC/VAERS has recorded its first report of a five year old hospitalized after a Pfizer shot. It turns out an Indiana family went to a pharmacy for flu shots and got covid shots instead.

    From the VAERS narrative: [[Went for their flu shot but instead got the Pfizer Covid vaccine . . . Caller was a 35-year-old male and wife (29 years old) with 2 children (4 years old male and 5 years old). Caller called because him, his wife, his 4-year-old, and his 5-year-old child all went to get the flu vaccine but were given doses of the Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine instead on 04Oct2021. Their two children were mistakenly given the COVID-19 vaccine instead of a flu shot a week ago at their local pharmacy and they are now dealing with some adverse symptoms. a rapid heartbeat out of proportion to age and level of exertion. The children have been taken to a paediatric cardiologist, and the family was told both are showing signs of heart issues, since last week, the family now says the patient had developed a fever. Seriousness criteria was assessed as hospitalization for Heart Complications. . . . The caller and his wife had already received both doses last Apr2021 of the Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine before. Both children, were given full adult doses of the Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine.]]
    VAERS ID: 1835404-1

  3. TTG says:

    So far, it’s just a request from the Oklahoma Governor and AG to the SecDef. We await the SecDef’s formal response to the request and what “or else” that response may contain. Rather than trying to federalize the entire Oklahoma NG, federal funding could be reduced or even cut off. In that case, Oklahoma would still control their guard force, but they would have to foot the bill and the DOD would be without those units.

    • Pat Lang says:

      They could federalize some units and not others.

      • TTG says:

        The Oklahoma order only applies to those not on federal orders including individual and unit training. The order specifically states that those on orders for any reason must comply with DOD guidance on vaccinations. A real test won’t happen until units are not called up and personnel no longer receive orders for schools. I have no idea whether this applies to annual training or weekend drills. I doubt Oklahoma pays for that out of state funds.

        • Pat Lang says:

          You just love the federal government. Sad.

          • TTG says:

            I despised most things about the Trump federal administration and I cheered on the resistance to he who so many on the right revered as their federal god emperor. Doesn’t that count as holding the federal government in disdain?

          • Pat Lang says:

            What did you despise Trump for?

          • TTG says:

            He comes from the same mold as Leona Helmsley and Bernie Madoff. He’s deceitful, greedy, self-centered, incapable of empathy and seems to get a sadistic pleasure from other’s misfortune and pain. I think his biggest failure as President was the hatred and division he encouraged in this country. He inspired large swaths of the country to adopt his personality.

          • Pat Lang says:

            What you have described is the New York City personality. I am not interested in his personality. I agree with his policies, but as I have written I DO NOT want to see him run again.

          • Fred says:


            Was that the “resistance” that beat people for wearing red hat’s with Trump’s political slogan, the resistance that led the FBI/DON to fabricate the Russia collusion evidence – with attendant media coverage that put Pelosi into the speaker’s chair, or some other resistance? “God Emporer” was a meme, a joke with no more meaning than to get under sensitive peoples skin. Why did you let it bother you?

  4. Aletheia in Athens says:

    “Because we do not fight against blood and flesh, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly regions. Therefore, take up the whole armor of God …”

    Ephesians 6: 12-17


  5. Babeltuap says:

    He also has to start paying them being on Federal orders. I was in the Guard 20 years. He can’t force them unless he puts them on Federal orders. Huge savings for states. DO IT. Every state should be taking this measure. Bleed him.

    • Pat Lang says:


      IMO it is an error to see this in budgetary terms. If nationalization occurs the states concerned will have lost a lot of political leverage.

    • Bill Roche says:

      IMHO this has far less to do with money than power. There was a reason we learned in school about our federal government as a “power sharing” arrangment with the states. To nationalize state guards over the question of immunization in the absence of national threat signifies that states are become no more than administrative units of the federal gov’t. Were I a state governor I would not stand for this debasement of the agreement of ’87.

  6. exiled off mainstreet says:

    How much damage will the Kool-Aid shots do to the military over the next year or so? Will they also be forced to keep submitting to “boosters” until they are dead or disabled? Latest available info indicates that along with being highly toxic, they don’t even perform their purported function: as a result of immune system damage there are credible indications that the shots actually increase the risk of the virus. Compare UK health security agency information which reveals this if you go over what is disclosed even though the establishment has forced them to eliminate the graphs which reveal this problem in the latest disclosures.

  7. Fred says:

    What does General Daniel R. Hokanson have to say about this order? As Chief of the National Guard Bureau and a member of the JCS shouldn’t he have some input in this regard?

  8. Aletheia in Athens says:

    “The very idea that a cruel thing can be useful is itself immoral.” Cicero


  9. akaPatience says:

    It seems in spite of tremendous effort by the MSM, Big Tech and US Government to censor or withhold negative vaccine data and news, word is evidently getting out that otherwise healthy, able-bodied men who are at low risk from Covid are suffering rare but significant episodes of vaccine-related heart attack – enough for some areas to halt vaccination because of the phenomenon. Unfortunately we have to rely on news from Europe and other places around the world in order to make informed vaccine decisions.

    I wish the the Oklahoma National Guard good luck in its attempt to exercise caution.

    • Aletheia in Athens says:

      Taiwan, of all places, has suspended second dose of Pfizer vaccine in people under 30 due side effects.

      What is this, Chinese wisdom?

      The continuous insistence by our authorities, in spite of the total awareness of at least half the citizenry on what´s going on here, in forcing us and fully demonizing those who still resist, will end with the total lost of trust and the collpase of our societies, an outcome probably wished by the wicked at the very top and their immediate vassals, to rebuilt from ashes…with the submissive…

  10. Aletheia in Athens says:

    What the “Covid Pass” is all about, why they try to force the vaccines as if there was no tomorrow, what is the goal here…I warned months ago…Take control of you banks account, and requisitioning them with the alibi that you do not comply, and if you comply they will allow you to spend whatever they deem you need…Recall here that they do not deem necessary for you eating meat, travelling, and having a daily….


    First day of Gestapo in Austria…overhwleming number of policemen, for the ammount of clients, controlling “Covid nazi pass” in a clothes shop…Notice that there are almost no clients…In Russia comerce is already complainig about loses…

    With regard this sudden throwing into the pool by Austria, for those who could be astonished, it is good to remember anyone´s roots and traditons…A bit of history by César Vidal, for those able to understand Spanish…From that dust, this mire…


    • Aletheia in Athens says:

      Forgot to add the link to the images of first day of Gestapo in Austria…


      Also, must hear for jewish people, and even non jewish one, last editorial by César Vidal on 15 reasons by Rabbi Weismann arguing on how The Torah forbides and prevents you to take the mRNA vaccine, due its composition and the possibility to endager your life in taking it, and how both jewish and non jewish people can ask him for an exemption certificate on moral and religious grounds …


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