STASI stuff …

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  1. nardami says:

    …back in the USSR boy, Back in the USSR!

  2. BillWade says:

    I saw somebody wearing a mask in what could be a “get-away” car.

  3. Barbara Ann says:

    “This “domestic terrorism” meme followed by second amendment strictures has the power to start a civil war.” – walrus

    Rat out your own flesh and blood. This is a full frontal assault on the glue that holds society together; the family. You don’t trust the state? Well the state will ensure you can’t trust anyone. Spying on your friends and family, because your access to them is so intimate, is society-disrupting, soul-killing, Soviet-level evil.

    I can’t think of a better way to motivate people towards violence.

    • TTG says:

      Maybe the threat of violence precedes the ratting out. Guy Reffitt was arrested by the FBI back in January after his kids gave him up. Prior to that, he bragged about his trip to Washington, DC, and his part in the insurrection to his family, saying he had filmed the riot on a GoPro-style camera. Upon learning of the FBI’s investigation into the insurrection, Reffitt threatened to shoot his children if they turned him in to authorities. With that death threat, the kids decided to rat out dear old dad.

      • Barbara Ann says:

        TTG

        We’ll have to agree to disagree on the use of the “i” word as the correct characterization of 1/6.

        I have no problem with reporting people to LE for threats of violence. If Reffitt Sr. threatened to shoot his kids and one of them genuinely thought the threat was serious then dear old Dad had it coming.

        So, is Reffitt a white supremacist or domestic terrorist because he filmed events on a GoPro or because he threatened his kids? Why can’t his actions be considered a plain old threat of violence? Why this tweet suggesting citizens need to inform on their family members? Why now? Why? Because the whole post 1/6 domestic terror threat and the feds’ rat-out-your-relatives initiative are plainly politically motivated initiatives to go after Deplorables.

  4. Pollychrome says:

    THANKS always for your fine principles, honored Colonel.
    I’m glad you’re better, and hope you’re ALL WELL SOON.

  5. Barbara Ann says:

    For anyone not familiar with the Stasi, its wiki says this:

    One of the Stasi’s main tasks was spying on the population, primarily through a vast network of citizens turned informants, and fighting any opposition by overt and covert measures, including hidden psychological destruction of dissidents (Zersetzung, literally meaning “decomposition”)

    It has been described as even more oppressive than the Gestapo. Zersetzung has its own wiki.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zersetzung#In_practice

    • AK says:

      A short while back I watched a lecture in which it was claimed that during the height of STASI’s penetration into all layers of East German society, something like 2 of every 5 people were government informants. So, in your average household/family, 2 of the 4 or 5 were spying and informing on the rest. It led to a sobering moment where I was forced to consider who in my family would fit that role under the “right” circumstances.

      On a related note, I cannot recommend highly enough the film The Lives of Others. It’s simply one of the best films ever made.

      • Lysias says:

        The U.S. deep state has much less need for human informants. Computers and the Internet are their informants.

        • smoke says:

          Perhaps. But spying by those inanimate electronic tools, wielded by distant powers, does not break down trust within family and friendship networks, social bonds, and social cohesion, which is the real bonus of having private citizens spy on each other. Undermines the possibilities for organizing resistance.

          The IRS, after all, says it gets most of its best tips from ex-spouses and disgruntled employees.

          There will always be individuals with grievances, human social interactions being delicate and imperfect arrangements, as well as individual humans’ variable peculiarities and temperaments. Season those with some good, moralizng propaganda, perhaps a tangible reward too, and sowing distrust and division becomes a pretty standard exercise.

      • PRC90 says:

        On that note, and slightly off topic, one could ask what would have been in Angela Merkel’s file and who holds that file to this day.
        She had a good career in the DDR, and one that would have been officially regarded as ‘unblemished’.

    • TTG says:

      The Stasi was so effective that the 10th Group Commander asked for the GDR to be taken off our target list. We could not figure out a way to survive in country and still accomplish any worthwhile mission. The Pentagon agreed and acquiesced to Colonel Potter’s request.

  6. Babeltuap says:

    FBI is in deeper than the actual deep state. They are the Mariana Trench of the deep state. I don’t think it’s even possible to get any deeper. Spying on a President, countless acts of treason and now murder at the Capitol. Secret mass graves dug into the bottom of the Mariana Trench maybe?

  7. walrus says:

    The are a few things missing, I wouldn’t be too worried yet.

    – the young pioneers/hitler youth movement that captures the young.

    – the takeover or suppression of professional, community and sporting associations.

    – a blockfuhrer system.

    – an equivalent to the old german “sippenhaft” law (collective family responsibility and punishment for the actions of family members).

    • Fred says:

      Walrus,

      You have not been paying attention.
      BLM, Antifa where did they go?
      LGBTQ in NFL, NHL, we now even to the trannies in womens sports, to include high school and the olympics.
      Critical Race Theory? That hasn’t showed up in your news yet?

      Blockleiter “The purpose of the Block Warden was to organize local support for elections during a period when Nazis were attempting to gain both local and national political offices in the Weimar Republic.” per wiki
      You have never heard of Stacy Abrams and the Georgia elections nor about Detroit Michigan elections? Who do you think organized all those ballots deposited in all those drop boxes? It was certainly not spontaneous patriotic voting for the social isolation campaigner.

      “takeover or suppression of professional, community and sporting associations.”
      How’s the ABA doing on protecting Trump’s 1st amendment rights? Who’s running the ACLU and the SPLC now? How about the Boy Scouts, still promoting Christian values? Have you heard about the school board fights here? How about the suppression by social media of the 4th largest paper in the Republic and the President?

      “I wouldn’t be too worried yet”
      It’s a bit late to worry when the rest of the system is imposed.

      • Carey says:

        > You have not been paying attention.
        BLM, Antifa where did they go?
        LGBTQ in NFL, NHL, we now even to the trannies in womens sports, to include high school and the olympics.
        Critical Race Theory? That hasn’t showed up in your news yet? <

        Hear, hear: there is every reason to be worried- for those mentioned above, and many others.

    • JK of Arkansas says:

      Heck Walrus,

      Hasn’t even the Time article featuring the actual bragging crossed your desk?

      https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

    • Barbara Ann says:

      walrus

      Re the first item on your fascist checklist: “the young pioneers/hitler youth movement that captures the young”

      Sounds to me like the newly announced “Civilian Climate Corps” may fit the bill pretty well. I think it is clear now what ‘human infrastructure’ means; a woke Red Guard.

      https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jul/20/chuck-schumer-pledges-include-civilian-climate-cor/

  8. Jose says:

    One of the best movies ever made on what Socialism/Communism is all about:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lives_of_Others

  9. Lelush says:

    But what was first, the hen or the egg…?

    Before the STASI stuff there was the Nazi stuff…Who learnt from whom?

    The West is just mimetizing the nazi regime, even with mediacl experiments and free pases for certain people and all that…
    In 1933 Hitler created the “Ahnenpaß”, a racial passport that authorized Aryans to have the best jobs, enter museums, public buildings, theaters and universities…..

    Some other good ones any STASI would compit to see which is the harshest…

    Using as an excuse the fight against child pornography, the European Parliament approves the repeal for THREE YEARS of articles 5 (1) and 6 (1) of Directive 2002/58 / EC, thus eliminating the right to privacy (email, chats, messaging …)

    Dr. Leana Wen, medical collaborator of the CNN chain, proposes to “make life impossible” for those who do not get vaccinated and force them to take tests for coronavirus several times a week ….

    Who will make us free, since USAID is with the US government and says nothing about all this?

    • PRC90 says:

      Lelush, re your last sentence; I suggest the answer is ‘some US States’, by way of not supporting or actively opposing the enforcement of some Federal laws. Sanctuary States are not a new concept and will surprise the Leftists if/when the boot is on the other foot. Action of that nature would probably freeze a potential conflict until a subsequent mid-term or Presidential election, but if unresolved, well, watch the ever-increasing movement of people to places that suit their ideology.
      And then ?

  10. Cerinthus says:

    Read the whole Biden plan:

    https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/biden-s-strategy-for-combating-domestic-extremism/22ddf1f2f328e688/full.pdf

    “The Intelligence Community (IC) assesses that domestic violent extremists (DVE) are motivated by a range of ideologies and galvanized by recent political and societal events in the United States pose an elevated threat to the Homeland in 2021. Enduring DVE motivations pertaining to biases against minority populations and perceived government overreach will almost certainly continue to drive DVE radicalization and mobilization to violence . Newer sociopolitical developments – such as narratives of fraud in the recent general election, the emboldening impact of the violent breach of the U.S. Capitol , conditions related to the COVID – 19 pandemic , and conspiracy theories promoting violence- will almost certainly spur some
    DVEs to try to engage in violence this year.”

    • akaPatience says:

      Thank you for the link Cerinthus. It spells out the Biden plan’s rationale and intentions. It should be noted that “white supremacy” is cited as the main culprit when it comes to “domestic terrorism”. There’s no mention of racism among people of color as motivation, which would of course point to and incriminate the BLM/Antifa violence and destruction that rained down on several cities just last year. There’s no allusion to the consequences of black criminals resisting law enforcement, and the destruction and violence that may ensue in its wake – destruction and violence that have become nearly routine, predictable, excused and even cheered on by many leftists. Yet this form of terrorism has gone on for several years now, and the costs in lives, livelihoods, property, etc., have been tremendous. It’s nothing short of shocking that this isn’t considered “domestic terrorism” in Biden’s plan

      No, instead the focus is on an exaggerated notion of terrorism attributable to “white supremacy”. The plan’s rationale clearly and repeatedly states that the threat of domestic terrorism is mainly due to “white supremacy” and “militias”. They “are responsible for a substantial portion of today’s domestic terrorism”. SO, apparently if people of color resent government, law enforcement, etc., and engage in violence as a result, it’s not something the plan will address. AND YET how many cities have white supremacists wreaked havoc upon? How many law enforcement officers have they murdered? The OK City bombing is mentioned as an example in the plan, but it happened TWENTY SIX ago.

      It’s not as though there aren’t calculable measures which can help to determine the current, more contemporary degree of the threat of violence and damage caused by domestic terrorism. Crime statistics and their demographic aspects, insurance claims, etc., can inform and shed a bright light on the issue. Yet they’re overlooked, and don’t correlate to the rationale of the Biden plan, which seems to be intentionally myopic.

      It’s alarming for a law-abiding person to contemplate the potential intrusion on privacy by the implicit expansion of spying in the plan – doubled-down spying by not only government agencies but also “community-based partners” (apparently Friends and Family Informers, Big Tech, etc.). Somehow though, it claims civil rights and liberties will be safeguarded. Huh.

      • Barbara Ann says:

        akaPatience

        It is intentionally myopic and one could argue, purposely designed to be counter productive. I can’t see how a strategy to demonize and potentially criminalize a huge section of the citizenry can do anything other than increase extremist feelings in the target population.

        1/6 is being compared to 9/11 in certain circles – Reductio ad Bin Ladenum we could call it. Unlike the GWOT, which was triggered by a genuine terrorist attack, the DWOT (or is it WODT?) is based on a huge lie. The Capitol invasion wasn’t an insurrection, far less a terrorist act. There was not even a plot, the march to the Capitol was part of a pre advertised political protest rally.

        As often happens, a small element among the protesters was intent on violence. The event was not violent by design and the vast majority behaved themselves. Instead of adequately securing the Capitol, TPTB left it woefully open to invasion and the Nancypolizei- the USCP – were in some instances very clearly aiding and abetting the “domestic terrorists” in gaining ingress. It stinks of entrapment, and now we know why; the DWOT had to have its founding myth and a photogenic launch event.

        • akaPatience says:

          Yes, I agree that policies such as this – that provoke, even beg for and elicit criticism of government, AND which could aggravate racial tension (many who bother to read the entire plan will be shocked by its one-sided perspective) – may be by design. It’s not difficult to imagine its cynical and true purpose is to create a self-fulfilling prophecy and give the strong arm of the Biden Administration an excuse to spy on, harass and crack down on its political opponents.

    • smoke says:

      Cerinthus –
      “… motivations pertaining to biases against minority populations and perceived government overreach…”

      Isn’t it cunning how racism is paired with concern for Constitutional limits on government? And racism named first, to set the stage. Both illegitimate “biases” of the unwashed, obviously.

  11. JerseyJeffersonian says:

    Here’s some more STASI Stuff.

    The democrats want to gain access to your private SMS (messaging) so that their favored groups can “fact check” them for information that they consider mistaken (read, dangerous and subversive) concerning vaccination, and enter into your private conversations with their unwelcome intrusions, and perhaps delete them, or impair your access to the service.

    Looks as if their success with getting Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, etc. to engage in similar tactics has gone to their head. The last I looked, in contrast to those “services”, my SMS service was paid for by me, and under no construction is it permissible for outsiders to mess with them in any way (absent a legally-obtained warrant from a court, you know, with attributable cause, and not merely a fishing expedition).

    https://summit.news/2021/07/12/democrat-groups-plan-to-fact-check-private-sms-messages/

    • Barbara Ann says:

      Fact Cheka.

      • JerseyJeffersonian says:

        Too true.

        BTW, thanks for your well-reasoned comments. They provide good correctives against POVs expressed which are driven by unreflective ideology, as well as by insufficient information. This is how one can disagree without resort to being, well, disagreeable. The Committee of Correspondence functioning at its best.

        • Barbara Ann says:

          JJ

          You are too kind. I would like to emphasis that my background knowledge and ability to both reason and articulate arguments have increased manifold as a direct result of visiting this blog and interacting with the Committee of Correspondence over these last few years.

          This place provides a unique forum for lively and spirited yet civilized and well informed discussion on a huge range of topics – all thanks to Col. Lang’s curation and moderation efforts. And of course our host himself is unique. The combination of immense knowledge, wisdom, breadth of experience and most importantly; depth of character that he possesses are unparalleled. Where else on the internet can one sit at the virtual feet of a modern day warrior poet?

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