Sheridan said at Cedar Creek "if you love your country come up to the front."
I urge you all to come up to the front and call your congressman or the White House to urge that the president not issue an execute order for what he is contemplating until the intelligence on what happened is clear.
The Borgist press is beating the drum for war and Trump evidently makes judgments based on 24/7 TV news. pl
Real war based on fake news is going to take us over the event horizon.
Are attacks on Syrian targets imminent??
I just listened to a recording with Philip Giraldi who thinks things are moving very fast.
Do you have anything you can pass on, Colonel?
Tillerson’s comments today leave little doubt that something very serious is going on behind the scenes.
Sir
Deja vu. Iraqi WMD, all over again. The war party is dominant. No longer any doubt.
Putin’s got some hard thinking to do in the next hours. I don’t believe he’ll risk a confrontation. The Russian military and their equipment will be withdrawn before the bombs away begins. Unless Assad is given asylum in Moscow and surrenders his government to the Freedom Fighters aka jihadis. Hezbollah will likely be under fire too.
Pax Americana will get a new lease of life to inure to the benefit of the ziocons.
plantman
PG is my friend. We talked today. Sources must be protected. Come up to the front. pl
I understand that Trump makes judgments based on 24/7 TV news, and I understand that the Borgist press is beating the drums for war. What I don’t understand is why the non-Borgist media –Fox News, for one, or any alt-Right outlets? — isn’t trying to put the brakes on or at least raising doubts/asking questions about this dubious (to say the least) gas attack. The only voice of any note I’ve heard from in that vein is Ron Paul.
Larry Kart
It appears that Fox News has been gelded. pl
All
Who / what is creditable enough to deliver an intelligence assessment acceptable to all?
Is this Wag the Dog
CL
Looks like all the anti-Russia election hysteria has paid dividends and boxed Trump in. Now they are being cashed. Disgusting.
I fear that America’s president is now dependent on his son-in-law to do his thinking for him on international matters. And further I fear that Jared Kushner is trying to help Israel overthrow Syria’s government in a bid to eject Iranian and Lebanese forces from Syria.
Whether or not the situation is as dire as I fear, there is no excuse for Donald Trump going along what is clearly nothing more than a lynch mob.
CNN, April 6 – 3:27 PM ET: Trump on Syria’s Assad: ‘Something should happen’
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/06/politics/donald-trump-syria-options/
President Donald Trump said Thursday that “something should happen” with regard to Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad in the wake of this week’s chemical attack, which US officials say he perpetrated.”I think what Assad did is terrible. I think what happened in Syria is one of the truly egregious crimes. It shouldn’t have happened. It shouldn’t be allowed to happen,”
Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One. “I think what happened in Syria is a disgrace to humanity. He’s there, and I guess he’s running things, so something should happen.”
Earlier Thursday, Trump told some members of Congress that he is considering military action in Syria in retaliation for the chemical attack, and recognizes the seriousness of the situation, a source familiar with the calls told CNN.
The source said the President had not firmly decided to go ahead with it but said he was discussing possible actions with Defense Secretary James Mattis.
US officials told CNN the Pentagon has long-standing options to strike Syria’s chemical weapons capability and has presented those options to the administration.
The sources stressed a decision has not been made.
Sen. John McCain, an Arizona Republican, told reporters Thursday that it’s his “understanding” that Trump is consulting with Mattis and national security adviser H.R. McMaster on Syria. He does not know what they will recommend to him, but believes they will provide him with an “excellent” option.
McCain and Sen. Lindsey Graham issued a joint statement earlier in the day calling for military action, recommending an international coalition “to ground Assad’s air force.”
“We agree with the President that Assad has crossed a line with his latest use of chemical weapons. The message from the United States must be that this will not stand. We must show that no foreign power can or will protect Assad now. He must pay a punitive cost for this horrific attack,” they said.
They added: “In addition to other measures, the United States should lead an international coalition to ground Assad’s air force. This capability provides Assad a strategic advantage in his brutal slaughter of innocent civilians, both through the use of chemical weapons as well as barrel bombs, which kill far more men, women and children on a daily basis … Ultimately, the grounding of Assad’s air force can and should be part of a new comprehensive strategy to end the conflict in Syria.”
Chemical attack
Trump on Wednesday called the chemical attack that killed more than 70 people in Syria as a “heinous” act that had changed his views on Assad.
“Yesterday’s chemical attack, a chemical attack that was so horrific in Syria against innocent people, including women, small children and even beautiful little babies, their deaths were an affront to humanity,” Trump said, speaking in the Rose Garden alongside Jordan’s King Abdullah.
[…]
Hi,
the Borg Drums are pounding away in the UK,
on the BBC Radio 4 World at One, the most sober and definative news source in the UK, I was astonished to heard it clearly stated that Assad was guilty and it was up to Syria to prove it’s innocence,
an inversion of the fundamental precept in British law, the presumption of innocence until proven guilty,
The Grauniad is also claiming to have a reporter on the ground, something I find rather fishy,
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/06/the-dead-were-wherever-you-looked-inside-syrian-town-after-chemical-attack
I’m also hearing news reports that Turkey has already performed autopsies,
how is it that all of a sudden people are able to travel freely in ‘rebel’ held territory to gather ‘evidence’ of Assad’s guilt,
I thought these were no go areas for anyone outside of ISIS/Daesh/AQ circles?
do the masses really believe the mainstream line?
Matt
The Guardian has just sent in one of their reporters (Kareem Shaheen) to cover the latest sarin attack in Syria. Does any one know who Kareem Shaheen is?
This seems to me a major escalation in the western media attack against Assad, the SAA and their Russian and Iranian supporters. If this Guardian story is right (or even if it not right, but is accepted by the West) then it would put tremendous pressure on Trump to actively intervene in the fighting around Idlib province in support of the Jihadist rebels. Can this be happening?
Contacted my Rep and both Senators (Schumer and Gillibrand). Talked of none of them directly, of course, but aides said they would pass it along. My House rep (R) will probably get back to me at some point. That’s all I can do.
Fox News is another Murdoch neocon outfit, they have to not knock Trump occasionally so they don’t lose all their viewers.
A friend of Bannon’s has said he attended the NSC today, was about Syria. He maintains Bannon is against and that Trump is considering option, but without intention to act.
Quote
“Along w Mattis & Tillerson, Mnunchin will be at Mar a Lago, reminding DT of econimic implications of military action.”
Terrible, frightening how fast things are moving. Meanwhile in the days since the chemical incident, coalition airstrikes in Mosul have killed at the very least two times over the same amount of people purported to have died in Khan Sheikhoun.
A war requires Congress to declare it, cannot be done by Executive Order.
Called my congressman, had to leave a message, just after 5PM here. Well, Nunes is gone, Bannon seemingly gone, my bet is the Trump-Russia meme is going to fade away fast too, almost as if it never existed.
Bit of a turn-around for many of the commentators who have been hailing Mr Trump.
Any retractions imminent?
An attack on Syria is not consistent with ‘America First’.
Accepting the bogus narrative means that the troop build-up to supposedly fight ISIS was a ruse.
And even the allegations about Trump’s Russian connections/sympathies become suspect. Did these ‘paint him into a corner’ or allow him to go where he wanted to go?
Colonel, Russian military unit locations, I assume would be known by US military planners and would be avoided in any air attack?
matt
That would be effective if the Russians want to abandon the Syrians. pl
James Doleman
I will need to see what the actually does. pl
Jack,
I wonder how the Russians will feel once they have regime change in Moscow; or do they think that the Borg will stop with Damascus?
Fox News has never, ever, been “non-Borgist”. It is a Republican Party propaganda adjunct. It exists solely to be against any position taken by the Democrats. It started in 1996, immediately began hounding the Clintons. Then gave George W. Bush a free ride, carte blanche. Then was against anything Obama did. Then prepared itself to stand behind whomever the Republicans nominated last year (as in every election so far). Now it has been going easy on whatever Trump says, however stupid he gets. It was started by Murdoch and run by Ailes. It is a 24-7-365 machine which any Republican candidate across the nation can plug into, and be supported by. The local affiliates are a little looser in the local news.
James,
I am one of the more vocal Trump supporters here. I do not like what appears to be happening and how Trump is dealing with it. However, I am certain Clinton was going to do the same.
If Trump goes through with this I will admit that he wasn’t man enough to stand up to the Borg. I may even assess that he was a closet Borgist all along. Depends on the data points that emerge. At this point I think the Borg put his nuts in a vice over the election hacking, Putin connection drama. Still no excuse. If he was as advertised he could have managed through it. His base would have supported him. We will see what happens.
One consolation will be that he won’t be calling me a privileged racist while he screws me. Other than that, it may be that they – Swamp dwellers – are all snots from the same nose. Left nostril/right nostril is a distinction without real meaning.
Larry Kart,
Well, if Bannon is against this and Trump takes Bannon’s input seriously, and if Bannon has people reading these threads; lets hope they can get Bannon to bring Trump’s attention to this material here in a way that a deeply shallow and illiterate or anti-literate man can be made to understand it.
Asked if the US will lead a regime change effort in Syria, Tillerson said that “those steps are underway.”
Quote is from RT report “No role for Assad’: Tillerson’s U-turn on Syria regime change”
6 April – 2017 19:08
https://www.rt.com/usa/383762-tillerson-assad-syria-statement/
More from the report:
The Trump administration has reversed course on Syria again, blaming President Bashar Assad for the alleged chemical attack in Idlib province and declaring he has no future leading Syria – just days after publicly abandoning the policy of regime change.
“There is no doubt in our minds, and the information we have supports, that the Syrian regime under the leadership of Bashar al-Assad are responsible for this attack,” Tillerson told reporters in Florida, ahead of the summit with Chinese President Xi Jinping.
“It is very important that the Russian government consider carefully their support for Bashar al-Assad.” Tillerson added.
[…]
CIA Director Pompeo is the one that turned Trump on to change his tune on Assad. Back in 2013 he called for a kinetic response against Assad. I think it is BS that a few are pointing to McMaster and Mattis as the ones wanting a military confrontation. They are preparing options, that is their job, but I believe there is no way that either is pushing for airstrikes. I would hope that T-Rex at State and Mnuchin at Treasury are preparing diplomatic and economic options, and that they get the same consideration.
Matt
With respect I’ve been listening to Radio4 on and off for some years. They are in no way sober and definitive – they have been ardently anti-Assad for all that time – all ‘bombed hospitals and children’ . I think of them as the ‘war-drums’ radio channel… the only sober thing about them is the English accent used in the delivery.
Depends on what you consider to be ‘alt-right’. Breitbart is considered ‘altright’ by the MSM for propaganda purposes, but in reality their Zionism contradicts the core altright principle of acting in one’s own ethnic interest. However, I’ve noticed the Breitbart commenters are pretty red-pilled on Assad and are prepared to call Trump out if he deviates from America First.
This is a pretty typical response from the authentic altright
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/04/neoconning-god-emperor.html
I doubt enough people are reading actual alt-right outlets for their position on the matter to substantially alter public opinion in the short timeframe we’re operating in.
Dan Joyner’s blog Arms Control Law posted links to documents being produced/considered by the UNSC and WHO to determine what happened,
https://armscontrollaw.com/2017/04/06/cw-attack-in-khan-sheikhoun-documents-from-the-unsc-debate-on-responsibility/
“CW attack in Khan Sheikhoun: Documents from the UNSC debate on responsibility”
n a statement also issued on 5 April, the WHO gave credence to the hypothesis that the agent or one of the agents used might have been sarin:
The likelihood of exposure to a chemical attack is amplified by an apparent lack of external injuries reported in cases showing a rapid onset of similar symptoms, including acute respiratory distress as the main cause of death. Some cases appear to show additional signs consistent with exposure to organophosphorus chemicals, a category of chemicals that includes nerve agents.
The full document is available from the WHO website.
The UNSC emergency session began with a report by Mr Kim Won-soo, High Representative for Disarmament Affairs. The UN Office for Disarmament Affairs (UNODA) has published his statement.
{Update} The minutes with the statements by UNSC members and debate on 5 April can be downloaded here.
At present, Russia, on the one hand, and France, United Kingdom and the United States, on the other hand, have started circulating draft texts for resolutions.
Nikki Haley is a disgrace.
Russia today announced that it would recognize West-Jerusalem as the capital of Israel (east-J as capital of Palestine).
A new position, very unexpected, and it comes shortly after a Putin-Netanyahoo call today.
Putin is obviously working on a deal and has already paid Netanyahoo. What did Netanyahoo give?
Disgraceful. Chemical weapons were discarded as useful tactical battlefield weapons before the end of WW1. However the War Poets Wilfred Owen et al and war artists managed to convey the sense of terror so well that chemical weapons are an incredibly potent propaganda weapon. Dying by gas somehow more awful that dying by barrel bomb which is somehow more awful than dying by a manufactured bomb.
I can’t believe that WW3 is about to commence on the back of some iPhone footage. This is terrifying.
Robert Parry offers some alternatives to blaming Assad:
Another Dangerous Rush to Judgment in Syria
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/04/05/another-dangerous-rush-to-judgment-in-syria/
Also, a web site that serves as an aggregator for antiwar news is, natch:
http://antiwar.com
This seems to me to be a good source for information.
Anyone take exception to that?
Rex Tillerson: “It would seem there would be no role for him to govern the Syrian people.”
Regime change. It’s looking more like a standard issue GOP admin except with a lot of far right types populating it and a guy at the top who’s in way, way over his head. Apparently we couldn’t get to 90 days into it before starting another war. “Nobody knew health care could be so complicated.” Yup. The other stuff too.
If you know in your heart that the coming war is wrong stand up and be counted. There are those who will call you a coward, anti-American and worse. Don’t listen to them, listen to yourself.
Another thing about Trump heeding the Borg media on Syria that baffles me: Most of what that media has been saying about just about every aspect of Trump’s own self and governance has been characterized by him as “fake news.” Why now, on a matter of potentially grave consequence, does he find what that media is saying to be believable? Is it just because, as Nikki Haley, says there are “pictures”? And of “babies” too? Good grief.
Stop the presses. Drat. I should’ve double-checked before taking RT’s word.
RT: Asked if the US will lead a regime change effort in Syria, Tillerson said that “those steps are underway.”
https://www.rt.com/usa/383762-tillerson-assad-syria-statement/
Yes, that is a correct quote, but RT reported it out of context.
Sputnik, on the other hand, incorrectly reported the quote: “No steps are underway” for ousting Assad from power, Tillerson said. But Sputnik’s follow-up sentence to the quote is correct:
“According to him, any plans to remove Assad would require international cooperation and would not be an operation undertaken by the US alone. …”
https://sputniknews.com/news/201704061052376723-no-doubt-assad-chemical-attack/
The Sputnik report also provided the State Dept. video of Tillerson’s presser today during which he answered questions about Syria, and which put his quote in precise context.
Here is the video of the presser from YouTube; his Syria remarks start at the 2:10 minute mark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bkA7ZsYNpU
From what I heard, he said that the US now thinks Assad should go but in stepwise fashion; i.e., after the US has (a) removed ISIS from Syria then (b) stabilized the country and then (c) worked with an international coalition to address the political process (I assume for removing Assad).
So that sounds far less drastic than a unilateral military campaign to remove Assad or ground the country’s air force.
That said, this is no time to ease up on the actions Col Lang advised in this post because who knows what Trump is going to decide 15 minutes from now.
I think the White House bears some responsibility for setting off a panic because of Trump’s bad habit of ruminating aloud and changing his mind after shooting off his mouth.
He is getting the reputation for being fey. People don’t know what to believe from hour to hour. That might work for an intense negotiation process but not for leadership, much less governing the most powerful nation.
I am sure that McMaster, Mattis and Coats know that this is a false flag. The Russians who are operating in Syria could quite easily provide added evidence.
The question is, if President Trump will get rolled by the Borg or will he use this opportunity to discredit them. He should know that if he decides to attack Syria on the basis of this falsity, he will lose the support of many who voted for him. And more importantly, greenlight the Borg to take him on even more intensely. I hope he thinks through this carefully and shows the pugnaciousness that won him the election. This is the moment. Its kill or be killed. The Borg believes they have him on the ropes.
This is a full court press to restart the process of piecemeal MENA destruction, same old policy, no change. Unreal,the heat level in the media is astonishing… even Fox. Trump may well feel trapped, don’t know but it’s extremely disheartening for a Foreign Policy Trump voter. Was worth a shot anyway I guess, and the Clintons got taken out so there’s that.
Why would VVP back down for Trump when he was willing to bring the BHO admin to the brink? I don’t think he’ll fold, it’s clearly the same US/Borg Imperium it was before, same irrationality, same existential threat. I think VVP will show a very stiff spine, the only x-factor would be Xi’s position, but he has put a lot of work into Russia relationship, don’t think he’ll just drop it, though NeoCons probably think otherwise.
Someone above mentioned Trump Voter Mea Culpa’s… I am prepared to be very disappointed, on the other hand, one really can’t count this guy out until he’s is CLEARLY down for the count.
Sad really.
Done…Feinstein, Harris and Carbajal.
I contacted (by email) the White House, my Congressman Bill Keating, and Sens. Markey and Warren. I asked them to say no to Syrian strikes, that war with Russia is too grave a risk, and we don’t have all the facts yet on who exactly is responsible for the chemical attack.
Watching NBC Nightly News tonight, WH Correspondent Hallie Jackson was breathlessly intoning about “the ULTIMATE test for a Commander-in-Chief…” I don’t think many of the media are bright enough to see how thoroughly they’ve been propagandized by the War Party. In any event, it’s revolting to see them delighted once more with the prospect of sending other people’s children to war. The Borgist elites start the wars, but they certainly don’t fight them.
Thank you, Col. Lang, and the other members of the Committee, for your work.
Looks like DC getting played yet again …. watch Putin pull out as soon as Pentwgon steps in, and then say, “you want it? fine…its YOURS! With the final you-broke-it-you-own-it stage left all for Washington.
I can understand the hapless public impotence, many who tried to elect Sanders or an independent Trump, and most of which doesn’t have $400 in savings, and the morally bankrupt of DC spending the remaining few’s 401ks and HSAs and student loans.
But the so called captains of industry are no better than the rest of them to sit silently by and watch Trump get played worse thwn Obama, who at least had the excuse of young age to blame for his tail wagging the dog “leadership” performance.
Another tactic to get the brakes on is to ask Europe if its really ready for another 5 million refugees (more if Turkey goes to hell in a handbasket behind Syria).
Blessings, thanks for te update, and prayers to the enlisted folk and their families.
In addition the BBC News website is repeating the untruth with much innuendo that Assad was responsible for Ghouta http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-39513193. It’s a full-press attack (and no comments sections to allow the public to disprove their fabrications)… England is descending into the reek yet again…
I don’t know this House Representative but, man, he is ON it:
https://twitter.com/RepStevenSmith
Fools rush in where angels fear to tread. I will call my Senators Burr and Tillis in the morning.
Meanwhile, the 42 million Americans living below the poverty level include some 20 million children, who cared about them when they were taboo topic and not mentioned once in the entire 2016 election season (except a w times by Sen Sanders?)
Slow death to millions of children: no problem!
Tragic death in warzone of ~busload full : Quelle surprise!
(even one lost is an insult to sanctity of life)
Col. Lang you are indeed correct this time.
This could be no more than a cheap show of force while the ‘great negotiator’ interlocks with Xi Jinping.
Power-phrasing his tell all Art of the deal. ‘look what i can do – deploy and strike halfway across the world at my whim, rain death and destruction at will, topple dictators, Can you do that Xi? now come negotiate with me and enjoy the steak well done’.
Will acting presidente Jared sort everything out on Sunday?
Colonel,
Elijah Magnier has just penned some of the clearest analysis of the situation in Sheikhoun:
https://elijahjm.wordpress.com/2017/04/06/did-assad-use-chemical-weapons-on-khan-shaikhoun-to-score-an-own-goal-in-the-international-arena/
After studying things russian pol/mil for the last couple years, I don’t think Russia will abandon Syria & I don’t think the Russians will let the USA ‘bomb Damascus’. If the Russians let the ‘liberal interventionists & the neocons’ take an inch they will go for a mile.
He’s not exactly a guy known for his national security expertise, but when it comes to understanding how Trump operates Scott Adams, the author of the comic strip Dilbert is hard to ignore. Or beat. Here’s his take on how Trump 45 will consign this made-up brouhaha to a natural death.
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/159264981001/the-syrian-gas-attack-persuasion
By the way, Scott Adams predicted Trump’s nomination and election victories in August of 2015.
They are not news organizations, they are corporations for profit.
Sent the POTUS a message on the White House page, forwarded a powerful video message from an Iraq war veteran and protests from three active duty servicemen protesting any action on behalf of Al Qaeda.
Trump is a wheeler-dealer… Any possibility he is using this to get the focus on the borg/intelligence community/media and that he intends to jujitsu them by declaring it all fake news? Or perhaps go after ISIS harder? I consider it possible, although unlikely.
At some point he has to call Putin on the hotline to prevent WW3, so at least one person will give him a clue. Unless he wants to skip that step and go straight to WW3.
You think that a Hillary WH would have reacted any differently? If Trump is going to do what we all fear he will do, then the USA has a much,much greater problem than this partisan bullshit. It means the (((Deep State))) is real far beyond any conspiracy theory estimation of it, and to be feared if you are American. I see dark times ahead
The Europeans are dumb as shit. It is them that have been burning up the phone with Trump since Tillerson said the priority was no longer regime change. If the US attacks it will send another wave of refugees to Europe.
They should name it “Operation: Rewarding Terrorism”
Col. in your opinion does the US have the means in theatre to protect the Americans on the ground from any retaliation or will there be a pause while resources are shuffled?
The taming of Fox? What has happened? Does the departure of Ailes or the succession of 2nd generation Murdochs explain it?
Big advertisers trumpet their boycott of Bill O’Reilly, as if they were some sort of PC angels, and still no discussion arises in media or popular discourse about how powerful, monied interests can set and censor news and public discourse – more often without the trumpets.
An old game but the order of magnitude has grown? I imagine Eliot in an earlier Boston evening: “The readers of the Boston Evening Transcript/ Sway in the wind like a field of ripe corn.”
Looking very much like it. Found myself humming ‘Good ol shoe’ this morning.
50 tomahawks on their way.
Really, good to know.
Cruise missile strike just launched on Syria.
The other day I wondered what was the real reason Bannon was kicked off from sitting in on all meetings of the NSC and I have a queasy feeling it may be because he disagreed with those pushing for an attack
Too late, Trump just attacked a Syrian airbase with 50 cruise missiles.
Christ…
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/06/us-military-has-launched-more-50-than-missiles-aimed-at-syria-nbc-news.html
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The swamp has drained Trump.
Colonel
It has started:
https://twitter.com/AP/status/850156329671028736
Trump has done a direct flip on his campaign promise not to interfere in a country’s civil war. Damn him!
The US has just launched fifty cruise missiles at a Syrian military airport on the strength of an al Qaeda snuff movie.
It seems Putin has two options. Fold and give saving Syria, or 2) launch all out attack on US strategic forces. Perhaps if all the cruise missiles where shot down, it will be let ride for awhile, but it does now seem that if Russia is determined to save Syria from AQ and ISIS, they will have to enter into direct military conflict with the US.
Donald Trump is a liar and should be impeached. There is zero evidence that the Syrians used chemical weapons. He may have started WW III
For those who want to read or re-read Sy Hersh’s piece on the first false flag ‘sarin attack’, here’s the link
https://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n08/seymour-m-hersh/the-red-line-and-the-rat-line
The Red Line and the Rat Line
Seymour M. Hersh on Obama, Erdoğan and the Syrian rebels
Wars don’t get declared. Not anymore. This isn’t war, anyway. This is punitive strike/s after Gulf of Tonkin…redux. Almost had the same in Yemen recently.
Bombing in Syria/Iraq, by the US, didn’t require a declaration. It just required a pretext, and the AUMF.
I’m not from the US, but from what I’d read the Executive was granted wide reaching powers after 9/11.
It looks like DT is going with a heavy dose of Israeli style long range attacks about 50 cruise missiles so far. I was hoping that the Russians would have the sense to shoot down unmanned cruise missiles but it doesn’t look like they have the nerve. Hey Russia, these are Neocons, you cannot appease them, don’t you remember WW2, it will only get worse.
This may sound trite while 19yr old Syrian soldiers are dying but this also means that there will be no investigation. An investigation after we, the all mighty U.S. have passed judgment would only serve to embarrass us if it proved us wrong so the truth will forever be buried along with any Syrian soldiers caught at the wrong end of a cruise missile tonight. This is a disgrace to our country. I wonder when the Almighty will tire of our antics.
Unless Serge can tell us that this is another fraudulent video from Southfront, this link will show you the type of monsters we are supporting in Syria (Serge, if it is a fraud, I would like to know)
https://southfront.org/swedish-medical-associations-says-white-helmets-murdered-kids-for-fake-gas-attack-videos/
It shows the White Helmets giving fraudulent medical aid to a child and killing him on the table. I can barely bring myself to read the story and I cannot make myself watch the video.
Well. This is what you guys wanted.
Unlike HRC, Trump has never tasted blood and now has popped his cherry. Think this is the end? Nah. Only the beginning.
59 Tomahawks for one airfield?
For those who expected DJT to reject interventionism as he promised during the campaign, I am reminded of a line from Tom Lehrer as LBJ began the escalation in Vietnam in 1965:
“People are beginning to feel like a Christian Scientist with appendicitis.”
All,
My calls and appeals didn’t mean a tinkers damn.
The US is the Israeli, AQ and ISIS air force.
I’m watching RT and learning that DT’s manhood was challenged. Write to tell him to grow a pair.
Now heavy clashes between the terrorists and Syrian soldiers are reported.
We should be ASHAMED!!
Great comment
Hillary talks about the moral imperative for the US to bomb Syria’s airfields–at 58 seconds.
http://www.reuters.com/video/2017/04/07/clinton-calls-for-us-to-bomb-syrian-air?videoId=371443359&videoChannel=1&channelName=Top+News
Both Hillary and Trump are chickenhawks in service to the jewish state.
they and ISIS are the only beneficiaries of this strike. The zionistas have Trump’s psyche mapped and know how to how to herd him into their corral. It’s easy: Trump is a thin-skinned narcissist who will say anything for approval (or to get elected) and who enjoys bullying anyone he perceives as disloyal. He knows no history can’t even remember or doesn’t care what he said a week ago. Trump’s biggest fear is appearing weak. Look out world here we come.
Trump is on the way to make Obama look like a great president. Bombing Syria was not a knee=jerk reaction for Obama.
The rebels, who claimed to have been gassed, were likely to have been the same ones who gassed the Kurds in Aleppo one year ago, Jaysh al-Islam.
http://archive.is/yUdPx
Agreed. I would impeach Trump, and Nuremberg much of the last few administrations.
Apparently the airfield that was hit was used for strikes against ISIS.
This from al Marsda News..
BEIRUT, LEBANON (6:50 A.M.) – The Islamic State (ISIL) forces in the eastern countryside of the Homs Governorate launched a powerful offensive this morning, a local military source informed Al-Masdar.
Capitalizing on the U.S. missile strikes, the Islamic State stormed the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) checkpoints near the strategic town of Al-Furqalas.
According to local sources, the Islamic State has yet to make any gains near Al-Fuqalas, but without necessary air support, the situation could worsen in the coming hours.
The Shayrat Military Airport is one of the Syrian Air Force’s most important installations in the fight against the Islamic State due to its proximity to the Palmyra and Deir Ezzor fronts.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/isil-launches-offensive-near-military-base-targeted-us-missiles/
Given that Russian air defenses should see anything moving over Syria, the fact that cruise missiles were used instead of planes indicates that the Borg was expecting a response. The US has not yet fought against modern/current AA. 60 for one target is way overkill. This may just have been an attempt to provoke the Russians to put their latest equipment into jam or fire mode so that it could be analysed.
Three decades ago I was stationed at Site One. I didn’t feel any pressure because it seemed like there were adults in charge on both sides. That assumption no longer seems valid.
Ivan Sidorenko is reporting the death of a brigadier general at Shuayrat.
Meabwhile, Tulsi Gabbard seems to be a lone voice of opposition in Congress. This might mean that the Uniparty has seen off Trump.
Is this a significant attack on an operational base or something more symbolic/theatrical against a scrap heap? Does anybody know?
Did the Russians just sit there and watch?
Likely next steps in this slow dance of death?
Trump just ordered a risky attack based on information from various neocons and Alqaida affiliates and propagandists. This is a very disturbing precedent. Is he really this dumb?
Why didn’t the Russians try to shoot the cruise missiles down or use their alleged jamming gear on them?
Exactly my reaction when I saw Trump today moaning about the babies who were killed in the chemical explosion or whatever it was. I don’t think he has a principled bone in his body or a principled thought in his head. He’s like so many of our so-called elites these days: no integrity, no courage, no real culture, no concern for the fate of the nation or its citizens, no commitment to the general welfare; on the contrary, they are only out for themselves. I have some friends who voted for Trump in the hopes he would not get us deeper into the Mideast quagmire and who are now desperately trying to explain away the missile attacks on Syria. It reminds me of the way some other friends, Obama supporters,attempted to justify his string of sellouts over the course of his administration, claiming he was playing some complicated game, and, if were just patient enough, the endgame would arrive and all would be well. I’m afraid the same disappointment they eventually felt will soon be visited on many in the Trump camp–or at least those who believed him when he took a noninterventionist stance and proclaimed he would help the US working/middle classes. Baloney, all of it.
Trump has been bounced into a u-turn by media hysteria, based on unverifiable images supplied by AQ affiliates.
That probably spells the end of his immigration agenda. The media will be able to use video of real events, involving kids with American accents crying.
He’ll be in office but not in power – beyond the ability to deliver things that Wall St wants.
Swedish Doctors for Human Rights took this video that shows doctors faking treatment to a child victim of the chemical attack. The White Helmets made a video of the boy they are treating, pretending they are trying to save the boy when in fact they kill him. This is evidence the attack was a false flag.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/06/swedish-medical-associations-says-white-helmets-murdered-kids-for-fake-gas-attack-videos/
Let us see the “legal memorandum” that claims that it is “constitutional” and “legal” to launch 59 cruise missiles at a sovereign country that has not attacked the U.S. and is not an imminent, clear and present danger to do so.
Supposedly, CBS and NBC news reported that two dozen members of Congress were notified by White House and Cabinet officials of the airstrike, and that the White House will be providing a list of these members shortly that includes people on both sides of the aisle.
Pathetic statements by U.S. Senators Richard Durbin and Ben Cardin–
https://mobile.twitter.com/SenatorDurbin/status/850167192150827012/photo/1
https://mobile.twitter.com/SenatorCardin/status/850175692172087296/photo/1
I do not need to state the obvious, but the press release of Pentagon spokesman Capt. Jeff Davis leaves something out (in addition to leaving out proof), when saying: “As always, the U.S. took extraordinary measures to avoid civilian casualties and to comply with the Law of Armed Conflict.” But not the law of the constitution and Congress–
https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Releases/News-Release-View/Article/1144598/statement-from-pentagon
-spokesman-capt-jeff-davis-on-us-strike-in-syria
Moreover, the press release says that “Shayrat Airfield was used to store chemical weapons and Syrian air forces.” If chemical weapons were there, why are you hitting it with missiles and risking releasing toxic chemicals into the air?
In his statement, Donald Trump asserts that Assad used a “deadly nerve agent”. Tell us, Donald, which nerve agent was it? Who took the samples, exactly where were they, and how were they taken? What was the chain of custody of the samples? Who analyzed them? What is the evidence that the nerve agent was of and from the Syrian government?
A complex event such as was alleged cannot be thoroughly investigated in two days. That is obvious. Yet no one put the brakes on. It is worse than foolish.
Here’s Michael Ledeen and Mary Kissel of the Wall Street Journal acknowledging that the ultimate target is Iran. Six minute audio.
Kind of refreshing. Ledeen is always out front, doesn’t hide the agenda.
https://audioboom.com/posts/5794276-iran-is-the-enemy-syria-the-target-michaelledeen-followfdd-marykissel-wsjopinion
After watching the unanimous propaganda narrative the last couple of days, I can’t see Trump having the brains or the balls to resist. USA will be cruising for a bruising in the Gulf.
Buy domestic oil producers with stakes in the Permian and Bakken, if USA takes on Iran, oil is going to $150 and more. Gold miners, too. Might as well make money.
What a fucking mess.
I got no 8D chess justification here. Just that the ballot box ain’t enough to dislodge neocon tentacles.
Not to mention the beautiful little babies in Yemen.
In spite of myself in the face of the ghastly news, laughing. Brilliant trope!
Too many great one-liners in this thread for me to note each one, but thanks to all for being quick off the mark; helped shore my drooping spirits.
IS is already capitalizing on the bombings:
“ISIL launches offensive near military base targeted by US missiles”
By Leith Fadel
April 7, 2017
AMN
BEIRUT, LEBANON (6:50 A.M.) – The Islamic State (ISIL) forces in the eastern countryside of the Homs Governorate launched a powerful offensive this morning, a local military source informed Al-Masdar.
Capitalizing on the U.S. missile strikes, the Islamic State stormed the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) checkpoints near the strategic town of Al-Furqalas.
According to local sources, the Islamic State has yet to make any gains near Al-Fuqalas, but without necessary air support, the situation could worsen in the coming hours.
The Shayrat Military Airport is one of the Syrian Air Force’s most important installations in the fight against the Islamic State due to its proximity to the Palmyra and Deir Ezzor fronts.
[END REPORT]
binky354…You seem to believe (hard to say think) that Trump has a coherent line of thought on any issue much less something as complicated and subtle as Syria. Did you honestly believe he meant anything he
said on something this complex???
The man “reacts,” he does not “respond” or “review” or …. anything. He is not consistent other than in his inconsistency on issues.
I do agree: “Damn him!”
The video I linked to was a White Helmets video from a supposed chemical attack in Syria in 2015 and not the recent attack. Still it shows they perform false flags blaming Assad.
Sorry don’t want to give the impression that I am in anyway connected with Bannon, just have been reading Larry Schweikart’s twitter since Trump ran as he clearly has good inside info, presumably largely from Bannon.
Murdoch’s British outlets are rabidly anti Trump and the usual neocon bilge.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/2011/07/27/murdoch-is-daddy-warbucks-to-the-neocons/
https://www.libertarianinstitute.org/scotthortonshow/4617-philip-giraldi-says-ic-military-doubt-assad-gas-narrative/
A good listen, worth posting the link.
And let’s not forget the effects of UN sanctions on Iraq.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE
Syria is also starting to feel the effects.
Never heard this one before. It is great.
EA, It amazes me that so many thought Trump was the answer to most questions, and they called Obama an empty suit.
He was always a liar and should not have been elected.
Russian MoD releases a drone footage of the aftermath of US cruise missiles strikes on Shayrat airbase.
https://twitter.com/miladvisor/status/850299201623920640
Trump is going to make most of the previous presidents look better than they were.
Initial Russian responds to the strike.
http://tass.com/politics/939940
Did he make that campaign promise? If so, I missed it.
He promised to ‘extinguish’ ISIS from the planet and challenge Iran. No doubt. Iran is present on the Syrian war scene. Earlier then Russia, strictly. Did he ever have something to say about Nusra or other fractions?
I never heard any statements about the rebels by him. The unicorns as they are called here. Now Idlib surely is their strongest base.
I cannot pretend I am surprised.
A new position. Really? How comes that is one of the things I picked up during his campaign?
The next stage is boots on the ground in Syria by a coalition and attempted partition.
KH, I occasionally begged to differ with Front Man Justin Raimondo. Ages ago, I recall, I looked a bit into his ideological background, to understand why this may be the case.
I do not agree with him in this case:
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2017/04/06/trump-versus-trumpism-syria-in-the-crosshairs/
The irony is this contradicts every statement he ever made about Syria in the presidential campaign. Furthermore, this attack takes place barely 72 hours after the alleged incident, with no clear evidence that Assad was responsible.
I wonder if he sorted out the multitude of Trumps occasionally contradictory statements in the larger context of foreign policy.
Didn’t he blame Obama for not acting on his own “red line” too? Could that as much as ‘Borgian pressure’ have forced his hand now? Would it conform with his image, if he showed hesitation, indecision?
Compare “Red State”:
Assad crossed Obama’s red line, but Trump was having none of it. Last night, the United State military launched between 50 and 60 missiles at Syrian targets. It was Donald Trump’s first use of the military since he assumed office.
In the coming days, of course, we’ll have discussions over whether or not the strike was the correct action. We’ll have the talks over our relationship with Russia and Syria. We’ll have to listen to the people who say this is only going to create more enemies for America.
However, while all the political discussions are going on, we have to take a moment and offer Donald Trump some praise. He saw a great humanitarian crisis. He saw an atrocity. And, unlike his predecessor, he did not just sit on his hands and wait for the news cycle to move on.
And more importantly, greenlight the Borg to take him on even more intensely.
Sam, tell me why I doubt that? As the Borg was defined here, his ‘decisive’ action was quite in tune with it. Wasn’t it?
it’s extremely disheartening for a Foreign Policy Trump voter.
StoneHouse, that seemed to me to be a rather mixed bag of goods.
It may have been among his scripted speeches and it contained quite some worth while matters. On the other hand there seemed to be a trace of empire post-9/11-policy* too. For loss of a better way to put it.
* admittedly I did not pay careful attention on US foreign policy before, let alone Pat’s speciality MENA.
All:
I was wrong.
No you cannot blame the Neocon. The electorate prefers war to peace.
Ok, maybe I understand your line of reasoning.
It’s not a shift really. The “cherry blossom emperor”, to borrow Tyler’s term, was driven to act against his better will and reason by the Borgist Powers out there.
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/israel-just-received-a-huge-payment-from-russia-what-is-its-side-of-the-deal.html#c6a00d8341c640e53ef01b8d274de3c970c
Babak, I don’t the electors narrowly chose the less of two evils the less confrontational one, who opposed globalization, more wars, etc. Obviously as witnessed in this last three months for Mr. Trump was to conform to Borgs demands and plans (mainly on Russia) or abandon and be impeached.
Sorry, should have gone here:
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2017/04/us-intervention-in-syria-is-imminent.html#comment-6a00d8341c72e153ef01b7c8eac7b3970b
He is not a House Representative. Just another twitter hoaxer.
Trump does not need to conform.
You can hear Giraldi’s 13 minute interview with Scott Horton (on 6 April, before the cruise missile attack) at
https://www.libertarianinstitute.org/scotthortonshow/4617-philip-giraldi-says-ic-military-doubt-assad-gas-narrative/
Its summary:
I am unclear why “plantman” did not provide this link himself.
It was a very big airfield.
Very doubtful (even though I have been proven wrong before).