"The modern political marxist communist movement was created when the social democratic parties of Europe split between their rightist and leftist tendencies during World War I. The leftists, led internationally by Vladimir Lenin, Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht, to distinguish their brand of socialism from the "reformist" social democrats, were called "communists". However, after Luxemburg's and Liebknecht's murders the term communist became generally associated solely with the parties and organisations following Lenin, along with their various derivations, such as Stalinism or Maoism.
There is a considerable variety of views among self-identified communists. However, Marxism and Leninism, schools of communism associated with Karl Marx and of Vladimir Lenin respectively, have the distinction of having been a major force in world politics since the early 20th century. Class struggle plays a central role in Marxism. This theory views the formation of communism as the culmination of the class struggle between the capitalist class, the owners of most of the capital and the working class. Marx held that society could not be transformed from the capitalist mode of production to the communist mode of production all at once, but required a transitional state which Marx described as the revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat." wiki on "Varieties of Socialism"
"The French Revolution was preceded and influenced by the works of Jean-Jacques Rousseau, whose Social Contract famously began: "Man is born free, and he is everywhere in chains". Rousseau is credited with influencing socialist thought, but it was François-Noël Babeuf, and his Conspiracy of Equals, who is credited with providing a model for left-wing and communist movements of the 19th century." wiki on "History of Socialism"
SST has been besieged in recent days by socialist agitprop people evidently seeking to waste as much of my time as possible. They are obvious provocateurs and I do not publish most of their scribbles and will not. I have no intention of EVER providing a propaganda platform for them.
I am somewhat surprised to learn from your comments how many SST regulars are sympathetic to socialist goals and proposed measures in society and government, but your opinions are your opinions.
I am dismayed that some of you claim that it is "not helpful" to equate socialism to communism. I don't think I have equated the two. Perhaps those who think I have done that can provide a citation. If you do, I will deal with it.
OTOH, it is my opinion that any attempt to claim that most forms of socialism are not related to the communist variety of socialism are deluded or uninformed. There have been forms of socialism that were not related to the movement's Marxist history. The Baath Party in Iraq was one such but the great majority of socialist parties have their roots in Marxist analyses or history.
IMO this is a subject worth discussing. Those who make serious comments rather than propaganda statements will have their comments posted. pl