Who would the Russian “hackers” have been?

GRU

" The GRU gathers human intelligence through military attaches and foreign agents. It also maintains significant signals intelligence (SIGINT) and imagery reconnaissance (IMINT) and satellite imagery capabilities."[7] GRU Space Intelligence Directorate has put more than 130 SIGINT satellites into orbit. GRU and KGB SIGINT network employed about 350,000 specialists."  GRU wiki

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Let us assume for the sake of argument that the Mookster preppie fellow had it right and that the Rooshans collected (hacked if you wish) their way into the DNC to scoop up the correspondence that has "done in" Debbie W-S.  I would expect that this "lovely" stuff (from the intelligence perspective) would have been passed to WikiLeaks after laundry service had been done on it through several cut-outs.  It is unlikely that there was a pleasant luncheon "pass" at Tatiana's Tea Room in Kensington.  It is quite possible that Assange has never been forced to acknowledge the original source, even to himself.  Cool!

What is the chance that Assange has in his paws a lot more goodies like the DNC e-mails?  I would estimate the chance to be around 150% and they are probably not the sum total of the SIGINT products possessed by the collector. 

When can we expect to see more of the "take?"  Well, pilgrims, I would expect the "hammer" to drop unpredictably but effectively after HC is nominated.  The Democrats will by then be fully committed to HC's candidacy and a roll-out of various interesting bits of news would devastate her effort.

Is "Trump is a Russian Agent!" likely to be an effective defense?  I doubt it.   Such a Mookian meme contains the awful defect of the absence of a credible denial of the veracity of the e-mails.   One could claim some are false, but which ones?   Comey has told us under oath that her handling of classified information was "extremely careless."

Sooo, if the Russians did it, (and there are many other possible collectors) who in particular did it?  I vote for the GRU.  I used to know them well.  They could do this "without breaking a sweat."  This kind of thing is one of their core missions.  pl  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Intelligence_Directorate

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14 Responses to Who would the Russian “hackers” have been?

  1. Herb says:

    I imagine it is well within their capability to hack our voting machines and election process as well. I doubt that system, run by counties, precincts and states, with software and hardware provided by commercial entities like Diebold, is fortified to the level required to eliminate determined state-run interference.
    Obviously they have had this capability for a long time, the question is why pursue this so openly now? Putin is obviously making a very clear statement that meddling directly in our elections is no longer off the table. This is a very dangerous escalation he is pursuing.

  2. AEL says:

    I don’t think the Russian government did it. They tend to be conservative players. The downside to exposure is considerable and the possible upside (Trump being elected) seems to be medium at best (Trump being notably unpredictable).
    A more likely scenario is that some ratfucker in Trump’s (notably ratfucker heavy) campaign either hired a bunch of hackers to do “active” oppo research (and got a windfall or windfalls) or they paid some independent hacker a bounty for the fruit of prior “research”.
    Of course, there are many downsides to blaming it directly on Trump. The Russians are a much better scapegoat. Hence the noise about Putin. The hackers themselves would likely want to leave a trail of breadcrumbs leading away from themselves and towards some other villain.

  3. Nightsticker says:

    Col Lang,
    If I were running this Opn, I would arrange for
    a small, sample but powerful
    wikileak release this Wed morning that would
    be enough to: ruin the party; prevent any
    momentum; rattle the candidate; and set
    the stage,and prepare the audience,
    as in a Tragedy, for a series of ever
    more damaging releases as the campaign
    goes on.
    Nightsticker
    USMC 65-72
    FBI 72-96
    Nightsticker

  4. Sam Peralta says:

    Sir
    I find it interesting that the MSM is focused on the hacking and not the content of the hacked emails and lax IT security.
    Hackers will hack and there are many of them – from intelligence agencies to freelancers. A good friend of mine works at JPL and he’s told me the Chinese are constantly attempting to hack in. Not only traditional IT intrusion but also the communications with spacecraft.
    In the case of the DNC hack the outrage should not be the “Russians are interfering in our elections” – that should be expected, BUT, the DNC rigging the Democratic primary and actively taking sides. And then to rub it in, Debbie becomes honorary chair of Hillary’s campaign!
    Those supporting Hillary are not concerned about the role of the DNC in undermining Sanders campaign. They’re only worried about the Russians. The question is what about Sanders and his supporters? Will they play puppy dog or make a stink?

  5. Allen Thomson says:

    What about FAPSI (or whatever it’s called these days)?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAPSI

  6. JMH says:

    Not smart to scream Russia, the FBI will now be all up in DNC business.

  7. turcopolier says:

    Allen Thompson
    FAPSCI is still around as part of FSB but the GRU SIGINT service was always a more potent outfit IMO and therefore I think they are more likely. pl

  8. turcopolier says:

    Nightsticker
    Agreed. pl

  9. Trey N says:

    Speaking of spooks:
    http://journal-neo.org/2016/07/25/what-is-fethullah-gulen/
    The recent bungled coup in Turkey appears to have the fingerprints of the CIA all over it, and is almost as big a Charlie Foxtrot as the pizza parlor fiasco that got most of their contacts in Iran caught and executed.
    Given how their Syrian project is turning out as well (or rather, badly), it appears that the GRU/KGB/whatever Russian agency is as far superior in the espionage tradecraft department as Russian military weapons are to the F-35 and the Littoral Combat Ship….

  10. michael brenner says:

    The Texas heat has a cumulative enervating effect. So, that may explain why my grey cells are finding it hard to figure out the reasons for all this excitement. Everyone knew what shenanigans the lady from Florida has been up to – many far more egregious than trying to plant a question as to the depth of Bernie’s belief in Yahweh. The Russians? Don’t they have Pokemon as a distraction over there?
    I propose that everyone take an August holiday and devote their leisure to viewing some of those marvelous European detective mysteries that are screened for adults. Very refreshing.

  11. Allen Thomson says:

    BTW, the SVR HQ at Yasenevo has expanded considerably in recent years. No idea what’s going on in the new buildings, but since everybody’s favorite prefix is cyber- these days, that seems like a possibility. And the DNC email leak would fall under the rubric of “active measures,” something the former KGB 1st Main Directorate liked to do.
    https://fas.org/irp/eprint/svr-expansion.pdf
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_measures

  12. Margaret Steinfels says:

    Cui Bono?
    1. The American electorate? Rightly or wrongly, it comes to believe Putin is helping Trump; and then?
    2. Trump Campaign Manager Manfort and the young Trumplings? Isn’t the Observer linked in the first story below owned by Trump’s son-in-law? If so, we have mischief making as the Democratic convention opens; Polls shift to Trump, and then?
    3. FBI? Obama orders Lynch to bring charges as a result of the leak?
    4. Tim Kaine? Becomes the candidate after nominee Cinton is forcred to resign?
    5. Alfred E. Neuman? Who or Where is a third-party, not Russian, not Trumpist that would like to see the campaign turn into a free-for-all?

  13. turcopolier says:

    TreyN
    “appears to have the fingerprints of the CIA all over it,” This is merely an assertion on your part, an assertion that flies in the face of the policy of the Obama Administration to support Erdogan. I suppose you know that the CIA does not run a foreign policy different from that of the president. pl

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